11:38:06 RRSAgent has joined #mw4d 11:38:06 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/05/18-mw4d-irc 11:38:12 zakim, this will be mw4d 11:38:12 ok, steph; I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes 11:38:27 Meeting: MW4D IG bi-monthly meeting 11:38:58 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0010.html 11:39:05 make log public 11:39:11 rrsagent, make log public 11:53:14 zakim, code ? 11:53:14 the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph 11:53:44 UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started 11:53:52 +steph 11:56:24 + +091114129aaaa 11:56:27 -steph 11:56:29 +steph 11:56:50 zakim, aaaa is Arun 11:56:50 +Arun; got it 11:57:27 Arun has joined #mw4d 11:57:55 Raphael has joined #mw4d 11:59:23 BettyPurwandari has joined #mw4d 12:00:38 +krp 12:00:52 zakim, krp is Betty 12:00:52 +Betty; got it 12:01:27 + +41.22.730.aabb 12:01:36 zakim, aabb is Raphael 12:01:36 +Raphael; got it 12:02:00 Present: Arun, Ralph, Raphael, Betty 12:04:55 Topic: approval of last meeting minutes 12:05:02 http://www.w3.org/2009/05/11-mw4d-minutes.html 12:05:05 scribe: steph 12:05:12 approved 12:05:16 +Lauri 12:05:38 Topic: Action Items 12:05:45 steph to come with a document structure and summary of each section 12:05:56 done: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0009.html 12:06:58 ACTION: steph to send maputo's executive summary to mw4d 12:07:24 q+ 12:07:53 Raphael: e-agriculture forum, anybody have info about it ? 12:10:27 http://www.e-agriculture.org/ 12:12:01 http://www.w3.org/2008/10/MW4D_WS/papers/dearden.pdf 12:13:26 ACTION: steph to put maputo executive summary discussion on the agenda for next mw4d meeting 12:13:33 Topic: Roadmap 12:13:45 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0009.html 12:15:27 I agree on "audience" 12:15:35 q+ 12:16:07 q- 12:16:12 ack Arun 12:16:31 arun: 2 comments 12:17:13 information access VS production of content 12:17:20 what is the exact use we want ? 12:18:04 Audience looks OK 12:19:51 q+ 12:20:43 raphael: roadmpa: technical document, end-user might not be able to read such document 12:20:57 I agree with Raphael 12:21:00 Lauri has joined #mw4d 12:21:04 users of the roadmap, minimal level of technical level 12:21:10 that the document would be consumed by technical people 12:21:42 at last Lauri managed to enter IRC from his new home 12:22:25 audience: add a piece that mention that the targeted end-user have to have a minimal technical level 12:22:25 q+ 12:22:35 q- 12:22:38 and it is not anybody in the street 12:23:44 Lauri, you might be able to access IRC directly from your mobile phone! 12:24:07 arun: quesiton not only related to the audience 12:24:19 q- 12:25:38 Content provider is diff. from Information provider?? 12:25:46 Raphael: Yes, but in home I have notebook with big screen so I use it now. 12:29:00 What do you mean "application agnostic? 12:29:44 Basically, we should probably identify the effects of Application Domain on technologies/solutions (Finance Sector Vs Agriculture) as a challenge 12:30:03 OK 12:30:08 thanks 12:30:19 Then, I agree with Steph 12:30:42 that we should not enter into application domain specifics at this step 12:31:04 We can still go into it later 12:31:16 Fine with me 12:31:22 I have to excuse me as I was last week on vacation (moving to new house) so I have not looked yet the new text in Wiki. I will read it later and then I can comment 12:31:39 resolution: the document should mention that there are specific challenges that are applications specific 12:31:50 but this document is application agnostique 12:32:05 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0009.html 12:33:58 P2P info sharing, then 12:34:05 user to user 12:34:12 via the mobile app. 12:34:21 vs info to user 12:35:00 Kind of similar to Mashups / Web 2.0 apps for end users to create apps of their own easily 12:35:10 OK 12:35:58 note: to be added to the document as a note. 12:36:50 q+ 12:36:55 q+ 12:38:24 q+ 12:38:25 ack betty 12:40:21 Affordability is also a real issue. Low incomes of our target end users put a constraint on what kind of devices and solutions can they make use of. Even network bandwidth availability is tied to this since the infrastructure might be there but may not be affordable by our end users. 12:40:59 I agree with Steph, available trainings are pars of content provider challange. 12:43:39 For instance, people might be able to afford smart phones from the gray market (or second hand market) but may not have enough money to pay for data connection usage. Remember a bulk of these are prepaid customers. 12:43:47 q+ 12:43:54 ack raphael 12:44:11 q- 12:44:55 q+ 12:45:42 ack ack lauri 12:45:44 Mobile applications can and should integrate a user-feedback function (as these users are often isolated) 12:45:51 ack lauri 12:48:19 action: lauri to review tools msection of the wiki and complete it with .mobi tools 12:48:23 Acces challenge: availability of mobile network coverage (3G, previous tech?). Another challenge about regulation that can impact tariff & affordability (referring to Arun's comment). 12:50:12 ITU 12:50:29 q+ 12:50:50 http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/ict/publications/idi/2009/material/IDI2009_w5.pdf 12:56:36 Steph, when do you put this new draft on the wiki? 12:56:42 OK for June 8 12:56:44 OK. Thank you very much. 12:56:49 Fine with me 12:57:00 Topic: next meeting 12:57:04 june 8 agreed 12:57:13 Thank you! 12:57:23 Bye. C U later. 12:57:23 rrsagent, make minutes 12:57:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/18-mw4d-minutes.html steph 12:57:26 -Lauri 12:57:28 -steph 12:57:31 -Betty 12:57:35 -Raphael 13:35:00 disconnecting the lone participant, Arun, in UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM 13:35:01 UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended 13:35:04 Attendees were steph, +091114129aaaa, Arun, Betty, +41.22.730.aabb, Raphael, Lauri 14:58:41 Zakim has left #mw4d