IRC log of pling on 2009-05-13
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- 12:03:40 [renato]
- zakim, this will be pling
- 12:03:42 [Zakim]
- ok, renato, I see P3P_PLING()8:00AM already started
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- Chair: Marco
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- Scribe: Renato
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- Topic: Previous Actions
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- Caary forward action for RI/RW about Media Annotations
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- action: RI/RW to followup with Media Annotations WG
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- Topic: other items
- 12:08:25 [renato]
- add Social Web XG to Liaisons list
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- IEEE policy workshop (to events)
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- Topic: Policies in Cloud Computing - Giles Hogden
- 12:09:50 [renato]
- CC new feature is pay for the resources that you need on demand
- 12:10:03 [renato]
- 4 characterisitces
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- 1 - scalability (up and down)
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- 2 - abstracted resources, virtulisation
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- 3 - shared resources
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- 4 - services on demand (pay as u go)
- 12:11:21 [renato]
- (my spelling is poor!)
- 12:11:38 [Giles]
- http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/
- 12:11:56 [renato]
- CC is really taking of....
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- real demanding network services...games....financial services
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- study of security - risk assessment - for CC
- 12:14:08 [Giles]
- http://wiki.enisa.europa.eu/index.php?title=A_user_perspective_on_Cloud_Computing_(i.e._SME)
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- scenario 1 - SME migrating from traditional to CC infrastructure
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- No 1 concern - confidentiality of the data
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- No 1 - availability
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- scenario 2 - ehealth
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- Scenario 3 - improve resilience - acceptable level of service provision (in the event of disaster etc...)
- 12:19:40 [renato]
- CC is ideal for a DoS attack!
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- Take down the entire cloud platform/users
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- ...policy related issues
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- authentication policies are less than optimal
- 12:21:06 [renato]
- eg Amazon gives one key (for all users)
- 12:21:17 [Giles]
- http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSSimpleQueueService/2009-02-01/SQSDeveloperGuide/
- 12:21:45 [renato]
- new policy language for "simple q service"
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- How to stop CC users from mounting attacks? How to sandbox the individual users?
- 12:25:08 [renato]
- ISO27002 - IT Governance Std - mainly for those operating CC infrastructure
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- Mapping internal Governance polices to distributed services - that u don't own
- 12:26:38 [renato]
- Distributed services - which legal framework applies ? Depends on jurisdiction?
- 12:27:06 [renato]
- Edge-nodes in different jurisdictions
- 12:27:23 [renato]
- Audits hard as you have no audit trial..
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- issues around liability...
- 12:28:16 [Giles]
- http://www.appirio.com/
- 12:28:24 [renato]
- passing the buck - outsourcing the outsourcers
- 12:29:45 [renato]
- Amazon Simple Queue Service (Amazon SQS) is a distributed queue messaging service
- 12:29:52 [renato]
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Simple_Queue_Service
- 12:29:58 [renato]
- questions?
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- Amazon Simple Queue Service
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- Getting Started Guide (API Version 2008-01-01)
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- http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSSimpleQueueService/2008-01-01/SQSGettingStartedGuide/
- 12:32:47 [renato]
- Marco - plan to synchronise with other Cloud initiatives?
- 12:33:43 [renato]
- Giles; yes
- 12:34:09 [renato]
- Ashok - other companies involved in what?
- 12:34:54 [renato]
- Giles - the study includes 25 experts (from major companies...) eg HP, IBM etc
- 12:36:19 [renato]
- Giles - terms of reference paper (not public)
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- Giles - report will be public
- 12:36:56 [renato]
- Giles - missing expertise on privacy...
- 12:42:23 [renato]
- Jan - are there new issues here (eg privacy)?
- 12:42:39 [renato]
- Giles - "service on demand" is a new issue
- 12:43:50 [renato]
- Giles - most are new policy issues rather than technical
- 12:44:33 [renato]
- Thanks Giles for the Presentation...clap clap clap
- 12:45:06 [renato]
- Topic: PLING IG Note
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- Geolocation and privacy
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- Any ideas/contribution for W3C to take on in this area
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- Uni Milan - some related work
- 12:51:13 [renato]
- Create a new wiki page on this topic area - collect related works, projects etc
- 12:51:52 [renato]
- Topic: Review of Wiki activities
- 12:52:29 [renato]
- no added items
- 12:53:43 [renato]
- add a wiki page for GeoLocation...Cloud Computing
- 12:54:00 [renato]
- Topic: Liaisons
- 12:54:40 [Zakim]
- - +035850487aaaa
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- PICOS - in architectural phase
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- Social Web XG - teleconf just started
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- Topic: Events
- 12:58:04 [renato]
- Giles - offers the island of Crete!
- 12:59:00 [renato]
- Ashok - TPAC?
- 12:59:14 [Giles]
- I have to go on time...
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- Topic: AOB
- 13:00:26 [Zakim]
- - +30281039aabb
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- next meeting 10 June
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- bye
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- zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #pling
- 13:00:58 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Ashok_Malhotra, +035850487aaaa, +30281039aabb
- 13:01:10 [renato]
- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/13-pling-minutes.html renato
- 13:01:21 [renato]
- rrsagent, bye
- 13:01:21 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/13-pling-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: RI/RW to followup with Media Annotations WG [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/13-pling-irc#T12-07-33