IRC log of mwts on 2009-05-12
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
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- ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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- Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 12 May 2009
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- MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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- +Carmelo
- 14:58:53 [dom]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/
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- Chair: Wilhelm
- 14:59:47 [hendry]
- argh, what's the dial-in number
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- found it :)
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- +??P16
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- -Carmelo
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- +Carmelo
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- +wilhelm
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- +??P19
- 15:01:35 [dom]
- zakim, ??P16 is hendry
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- +hendry; got it
- 15:01:40 [dom]
- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
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- +??P24
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- zakim, ??P24 is me
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- +dom; got it
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- zakim, ??P19 is me
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- +dom; got it
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- zakim, ??P19 is really dmitri
- 15:02:15 [Zakim]
- +dmitri; got it
- 15:02:47 [dom]
- Topic: Widget testing
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- -> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ Widget test suites
- 15:02:59 [dom]
- ACTION-2?
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- ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
- 15:02:59 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
- 15:03:05 [dom]
- Kai: still making progress there
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- ACTION-36?
- 15:03:08 [trackbot]
- ACTION-36 -- Kai Hendry to provide a tour of WTF during a call -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
- 15:03:08 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36
- 15:03:21 [dom]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0012.html Kai's overview of WTF
- 15:03:37 [dom]
- Kai: probably easier if you read through the blog post
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- ... maybe we can discuss it next week
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- ... I'd be interested to hear more about other browsers SPARTAN-type of systems
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- Wilhelm: I know Microsoft does, Mozilla has something similar
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- Kai: would be good to collect that information somewhere
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- ... for testers out there
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- Wilhelm: SPARTAN (our automated regression system) contains 100 000s of screenshots that serves a point of comparison
- 15:06:04 [dom]
- ... to run it, you need to first label the screenshots that serve as point of refs
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- Kai: it would be interesting for me to see it in action
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- Wilhelm: I can ask my boss if I can blog about it (from our Opera blog)
- 15:07:07 [dom]
- ACTION: Wilhelm to follow-up on publishing details about SPARTAN
- 15:07:07 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-47 - Follow-up on publishing details about SPARTAN [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-19].
- 15:07:27 [dom]
- Topic: Memory test
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- ACTION-42 closed
- 15:07:38 [trackbot]
- ACTION-42 Fix the memory test wrt limitation for going higher up closed
- 15:07:42 [dom]
- ACTION-33?
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- ACTION-33 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to re-run memory test once limit is raised up -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
- 15:07:42 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33
- 15:08:11 [dom]
- Wilhelm: I've sent a report of my results
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- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0013.html Memory test results
- 15:09:21 [dom]
- Wilhelm: the UI of pass/fail isn't quite right - there are cases where I'm not redirected up to the upper limit
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- ACTION-33 closed
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- ACTION-33 Re-run memory test once limit is raised up closed
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- Wilhelm: even though I didn't reach the device memory limit
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- Kai: I can look into it again, by reproducing the same conditions
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- ... it's supposed to prompt you to go higher when it downloads everything
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- Wilhelm: I got two different fail results (no prompt vs error dialog)
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- ACTION: Kai to look again into memory test wrt failures at high memory levels
- 15:11:17 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-48 - Look again into memory test wrt failures at high memory levels [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-19].
- 15:11:45 [dom]
- Topic: Device Independent Testing Guidelines
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- ACTION-43?
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- ACTION-43 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get the DITG published as FPWD -- due 2009-05-12 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/43
- 15:11:54 [dom]
- ACTION-43 closed
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- ACTION-43 Get the DITG published as FPWD closed
- 15:12:23 [dom]
- ACTION: Dom to present the DITG to the W3C chairs
- 15:12:23 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-49 - Present the DITG to the W3C chairs [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-19].
- 15:12:29 [dom]
- Topic: WCTMB
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- ACTION-39?
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- ACTION-39 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look through Kai's proposals for new tests -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
- 15:12:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39
- 15:12:35 [dom]
- Wilhelm: still pending
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- ACTION-44?
- 15:12:37 [trackbot]
- ACTION-44 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to publish updated WCTMB and post a blog about the update -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
- 15:12:37 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/44
- 15:12:46 [dom]
- Wilhelm: I've updated the test
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- ... I've prepared a blog post that I can publish right after the meeting
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- Topic: Blog
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- ACTION-34?
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- ACTION-34 -- Carmelo Montanez to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
- 15:13:05 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34
- 15:13:25 [dom]
- Carmelo: Done the draft and sent it to Dom for publication
- 15:13:30 [dom]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0015.html Carmelo's draft
- 15:13:38 [dom]
- ACTION-45?
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- ACTION-45 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose a plan for getting contributions from community -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
- 15:13:38 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45
- 15:13:41 [dom]
- Dom: no progress
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- ACTION-46?
- 15:13:43 [trackbot]
- ACTION-46 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to blog about DITG publication -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
- 15:13:43 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/46
- 15:14:08 [dom]
- ACTION: Dom to publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog
- 15:14:08 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-50 - Publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-19].
- 15:15:52 [dom]
- Kai: we could publish about WTF
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- Dom: good idea
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- ACTION: Kai to draft a blog post on WTF
- 15:16:04 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-51 - Draft a blog post on WTF [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-19].
- 15:16:15 [dom]
- Topic: OMA
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- ACTION-21?
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- ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
- 15:16:21 [dom]
- ACTION-14?
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- ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
- 15:16:25 [dom]
- [both pending]
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- Topic: Next meeting
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- Carmelo: I won't be around on May 26
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- -Carmelo
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- -hendry
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- -dmitri
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- Next meeting May 19
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- -wilhelm
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- -dom
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- MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Carmelo, wilhelm, hendry, dom, dmitri
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- s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
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- zakim, bye
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/12-mwts-minutes.html dom