IRC log of mw4d on 2009-05-11
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/05/11-mw4d-irc
- 11:43:13 [steph]
- zakim, this will be mw4d
- 11:43:13 [Zakim]
- ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D()8:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
- 11:43:26 [steph]
- Meeting: MW4D IG teleconference
- 11:44:05 [steph]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0001.html
- 11:44:09 [steph]
- Chair: Stephane
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- Scribe: Raphael
- 11:46:25 [MiraS]
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- MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has now started
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- + +0196266aaaa
- 11:57:42 [steph]
- zakim, code ?
- 11:57:42 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
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- - +0196266aaaa
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- MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +0196266aaaa
- 11:58:04 [Zakim]
- MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has now started
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- + +04122730aaaa
- 11:58:15 [Zakim]
- + +58110aabb
- 11:58:22 [steph]
- zakim, aaaa is stephane
- 11:58:22 [Zakim]
- +stephane; got it
- 11:58:34 [steph]
- zakim, aabb is raphael
- 11:58:34 [Zakim]
- +raphael; got it
- 11:58:59 [kiwanja]
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- 11:59:38 [mib_iipgnb]
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- 12:00:02 [Zakim]
- +??P2
- 12:00:34 [mib_iipgnb]
- richard scullin
- 12:00:34 [kiwanja]
- there's something funny on the line!
- 12:00:40 [kiwanja]
- it's french :)
- 12:00:49 [steph]
- zakim, ??p2 is Ken
- 12:00:49 [Zakim]
- +Ken; got it
- 12:01:32 [Phil]
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- + +0776017aacc
- 12:02:00 [Raphael]
- Scribe: Raphael
- 12:02:07 [steph]
- zakim, aacc is StevenW
- 12:02:07 [Zakim]
- +StevenW; got it
- 12:02:14 [MiraS]
- +m
- 12:03:07 [rscullin]
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- 12:03:07 [Raphael]
- Chair: Steph
- 12:03:08 [MiraS]
- +??P1
- 12:03:14 [Raphael]
- Meetign: MW4D
- 12:03:18 [MiraS]
- ??p1 is Mira
- 12:03:19 [mib_8bmkt9]
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- 12:03:22 [kiwanja]
- steph - will need to leave at 1:40 - have to go out for a meeting. FYI
- 12:03:23 [mib_8bmkt9]
- hi
- 12:03:31 [Zakim]
- + +035850558aadd
- 12:03:31 [Raphael]
- hi
- 12:03:39 [Zakim]
- +??P5
- 12:03:55 [steph]
- e.g. /nickname steve
- 12:04:19 [steph]
- zakim, aadd is Lauri
- 12:04:19 [Zakim]
- +Lauri; got it
- 12:04:38 [steph]
- zakim, ??p5 is PhilippO
- 12:04:38 [Zakim]
- +PhilippO; got it
- 12:04:58 [steph]
- Present: stephane, Raphael, ken, Steve, Philipp, Lauri
- 12:05:04 [NicolasC]
- nicolas here will follow via IRC
- 12:05:08 [steph]
- ok
- 12:05:19 [steph]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0001.html
- 12:05:25 [mib_8bmkt9]
- hello
- 12:05:27 [Zakim]
- + +0773440aaee
- 12:05:36 [Zakim]
- + +1.413.458.aaff
- 12:05:37 [steph]
- zakim, aaee is mira
- 12:05:38 [Zakim]
- +mira; got it
- 12:05:47 [steph]
- zakim, aaff is richard
- 12:05:47 [Zakim]
- +richard; got it
- 12:06:15 [SteveWolak]
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- 12:06:22 [SteveWolak]
- hello
- 12:06:26 [steph]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-minutes.html
- 12:06:32 [steph]
- hi Steve it works fine
- 12:06:34 [Raphael]
- Present: Mira
- 12:06:53 [Raphael]
- Steph: Review of action items
- 12:06:54 [Zakim]
- + +0196266aagg
- 12:07:07 [steph]
- zakim, aagg is Betty
- 12:07:07 [Zakim]
- +Betty; got it
- 12:07:16 [SteveWolak]
- have you all seen this: http://crowdtalk.wordpress.com/
- 12:08:01 [steph]
- http://www.webfoundation.org/2009/04/ictd-2009-travel-report.html
- 12:08:05 [Arun]
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- 12:08:07 [SteveWolak]
- I will talk about www.betavine.net later ...
- 12:08:38 [Raphael]
- Steph: Invites for questions and comments
- 12:09:08 [Raphael]
- Steph: Attehded ICT Africa in Kampala
- 12:09:34 [Zakim]
- + +91.11.41.aahh
- 12:09:35 [Raphael]
- Staph: planning to sum up Maputo meeting
- 12:09:45 [steph]
- zakim, aahh is Arun
- 12:09:45 [Zakim]
- +Arun; got it
- 12:10:18 [Raphael]
- Any new conference to mention?
- 12:10:50 [Raphael]
- I added one here http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Events
- 12:11:01 [steph]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/BetavineSocialExchangev2.pdf
- 12:11:24 [Raphael]
- Steph: Next: Presentation by Steve on Betavine
- 12:11:50 [Raphael]
- Using technology to facilitate social change
- 12:13:14 [Raphael]
- RD: I also use Kiva
- 12:13:40 [steph]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 12:14:01 [steph]
- zakim, who is making noise
- 12:14:01 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is making noise', steph
- 12:14:03 [steph]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 12:14:14 [Zakim]
- steph, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: raphael (51%), StevenW (27%), Betty (4%)
- 12:14:51 [Raphael]
- weird, I cut my voice channel...
- 12:15:04 [steph]
- zakim, mute raphael
- 12:15:04 [Zakim]
- raphael should now be muted
- 12:15:09 [steph]
- zakim, unmute raphael
- 12:15:09 [Zakim]
- raphael should no longer be muted
- 12:15:11 [Raphael]
- mute me
- 12:15:16 [steph]
- zakim, mute raphael
- 12:15:16 [Zakim]
- raphael should now be muted
- 12:17:50 [Phil]
- +q phil
- 12:17:56 [Raphael]
- q+
- 12:18:11 [SteveWolak]
- any questions
- 12:18:17 [steph]
- ack phil
- 12:18:21 [steph]
- q+
- 12:18:31 [Raphael]
- zakim, unmute me
- 12:18:31 [Zakim]
- raphael should no longer be muted
- 12:19:08 [Raphael]
- Steph, my sound is not good, could you please complement me, thanks
- 12:19:24 [rscullin]
- q+
- 12:19:34 [steph]
- sure
- 12:19:54 [steph]
- Phil: trying to do a similar things with students here
- 12:20:05 [steph]
- but missing tools and skills to complete projects
- 12:20:19 [steph]
- how university students can work with betavine
- 12:20:22 [steph]
- ?
- 12:20:47 [steph]
- phil: using students at the end of university life, doing projects
- 12:20:57 [SteveWolak]
- can you send me a link
- 12:20:59 [steph]
- and we want them to make real-world projects
- 12:21:22 [steph]
- time and availability is a major issue
- 12:21:45 [steph]
- steve: global developper community includes but not limited to student
- 12:22:32 [Raphael]
- Phil: main issue is group discipline
- 12:23:00 [Raphael]
- zakim: mute me
- 12:23:18 [steph]
- zakim, who is making noise ?
- 12:23:31 [steph]
- stephen: good idea to package work for students
- 12:23:36 [Zakim]
- steph, listening for 17 seconds I heard sound from the following: StevenW (22%), PhilippO (66%), Betty (4%)
- 12:23:45 [steph]
- zakim, mute me
- 12:23:45 [Zakim]
- stephane should now be muted
- 12:23:49 [steph]
- zakim, unmute me
- 12:23:49 [Zakim]
- stephane should no longer be muted
- 12:23:51 [Raphael]
- zakim: unmute me
- 12:24:03 [steph]
- ack raphael
- 12:24:41 [steph]
- raphael: more in hte problem owner side
- 12:24:53 [steph]
- what are your business model ?
- 12:25:21 [steph]
- stephen: no particular business model, depneding on who is solving which problem
- 12:25:38 [steph]
- might involve local operators launching a new service
- 12:26:09 [steph]
- number of different models
- 12:26:19 [steph]
- and number different model for funding them
- 12:26:25 [steph]
- including commercial ones
- 12:26:43 [steph]
- could be also funded by gov. or public sectors. we are open
- 12:26:50 [steph]
- and explore different opportunities
- 12:26:56 [steph]
- ack me
- 12:27:37 [Raphael]
- Steph: understands that there is no technology limitation (i.e. SMS)
- 12:27:58 [Raphael]
- are there guidelines for projects?
- 12:28:21 [Raphael]
- Steve: are going to come up with guidelines
- 12:28:30 [Raphael]
- and a co-creation space
- 12:29:26 [Raphael]
- Steph: will there be development, standardized technologies?
- 12:29:35 [Raphael]
- development guidelines
- 12:29:48 [Raphael]
- Steve: will encourage open-source solutions
- 12:29:57 [Raphael]
- but no limited to
- 12:30:37 [rscullin]
- http://nextbillion.mit.edu/
- 12:30:52 [steph]
- ack rscullin
- 12:31:19 [Raphael]
- Richard: the next three years there will see 1 billion subscribers at BoP
- 12:32:50 [Raphael]
- there is an active entrepreneurial group at MIT on these development issue and apps
- 12:33:07 [Raphael]
- sees links with betavine initiative
- 12:33:26 [steph]
- zakim, who is making noise ?
- 12:33:43 [Zakim]
- steph, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: StevenW (75%)
- 12:33:58 [Raphael]
- Steve is back on the presentation, slide 14
- 12:36:49 [Raphael]
- Steph: what is your timeline?
- 12:37:08 [Raphael]
- Steve: build the website between now and Sept.
- 12:37:19 [Raphael]
- run a pilot between Sept and new year
- 12:38:01 [Raphael]
- looking for NGOs to sign up for the trial in Sept.
- 12:38:08 [SteveWolak]
- http://crowdtalk.wordpress.com/
- 12:38:21 [Raphael]
- looking for feedback via his blog
- 12:39:46 [rscullin]
- q+
- 12:39:53 [Raphael]
- Steve: anyone has contact with NGOs?
- 12:39:56 [steph]
- ack rscullin
- 12:41:05 [Raphael]
- q+
- 12:42:03 [Raphael]
- Steph: you may want to look at the participants list of the Maputo Workshop for NGO names
- 12:42:29 [Phil]
- q+
- 12:42:57 [steph]
- ack raohael
- 12:43:02 [steph]
- ack raphael
- 12:43:33 [kiwanja]
- (need to shoot, steph. interesting presentation. let's connect in the week!)
- 12:44:09 [Zakim]
- -Ken
- 12:44:46 [Raphael]
- Raph: can the platform work with projects that take place in countries where Vodafone is absent?
- 12:44:50 [Raphael]
- Steve: yes
- 12:45:04 [steph]
- ack phil
- 12:45:04 [Raphael]
- Steph, I missed the last one
- 12:45:22 [Raphael]
- thanks for completing :)
- 12:45:31 [steph]
- no problem
- 12:45:38 [rscullin]
- Thanks! This was great!
- 12:45:48 [SteveWolak]
- thank you for your time and questions
- 12:45:52 [Raphael]
- Thanks a lot, Steve
- 12:46:58 [Raphael]
- Steph: any other item for this call?
- 12:47:18 [Raphael]
- next teleconf. will be next week Monday
- 12:47:31 [Raphael]
- theme of discussion will be sent later
- 12:47:53 [rscullin]
- I have to drop. thanks!
- 12:48:04 [Zakim]
- -richard
- 12:48:06 [Raphael]
- Maputo workshop will also be discuted
- 12:48:13 [steph]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 12:48:13 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/11-mw4d-minutes.html steph
- 12:48:13 [Zakim]
- -Betty
- 12:48:14 [Zakim]
- -StevenW
- 12:48:14 [Zakim]
- -Arun
- 12:48:16 [Zakim]
- -stephane
- 12:48:17 [Zakim]
- -Lauri
- 12:48:19 [Zakim]
- -mira
- 12:48:24 [Zakim]
- -PhilippO
- 12:48:27 [Raphael]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 12:48:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/11-mw4d-minutes.html Raphael
- 12:48:28 [Zakim]
- -raphael
- 12:48:29 [Zakim]
- MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has ended
- 12:48:30 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +04122730aaaa, +58110aabb, stephane, raphael, Ken, +0776017aacc, StevenW, +035850558aadd, Lauri, PhilippO, +0773440aaee, +1.413.458.aaff, mira, richard,
- 12:48:32 [Zakim]
- ... +0196266aagg, Betty, +91.11.41.aahh, Arun
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- 14:54:49 [steph]
- rrsagent, excuse us
- 14:54:49 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items