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11:43:13 <steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
11:43:13 <Zakim> ok, steph; I see MWI_MW4D()8:00AM scheduled to start in 17 minutes
11:43:26 <steph> Meeting: MW4D IG teleconference
11:44:05 <steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0001.html
11:44:09 <steph> Chair: Stephane
11:44:30 <steph> Scribe: Raphael
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11:56:44 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has now started
11:56:51 <Zakim> + +0196266aaaa
11:57:42 <steph> zakim, code ?
11:57:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
11:57:48 <Zakim> - +0196266aaaa
11:57:49 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has ended
11:57:49 <Zakim> Attendees were +0196266aaaa
11:58:04 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has now started
11:58:11 <Zakim> + +04122730aaaa
11:58:15 <Zakim> + +58110aabb
11:58:22 <steph> zakim, aaaa is stephane
11:58:22 <Zakim> +stephane; got it
11:58:34 <steph> zakim, aabb is raphael
11:58:34 <Zakim> +raphael; got it
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12:00:02 <Zakim> +??P2
12:00:34 <mib_iipgnb> richard scullin
12:00:34 <kiwanja> there's something funny on the line!
12:00:40 <kiwanja> it's french  :)
12:00:49 <steph> zakim, ??p2 is Ken
12:00:49 <Zakim> +Ken; got it
12:01:32 <Phil> Phil has joined #mw4d
12:01:49 <Zakim> + +0776017aacc
12:02:00 <Raphael> Scribe: Raphael
12:02:07 <steph> zakim, aacc is StevenW
12:02:07 <Zakim> +StevenW; got it
12:02:14 <MiraS> +m
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12:03:07 <Raphael> Chair: Steph
12:03:08 <MiraS> +??P1
12:03:14 <Raphael> Meetign: MW4D
12:03:18 <MiraS> ??p1 is Mira
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12:03:22 <kiwanja> steph - will need to leave at 1:40 - have to go out for a meeting. FYI
12:03:23 <mib_8bmkt9> hi
12:03:31 <Zakim> + +035850558aadd
12:03:31 <Raphael> hi
12:03:39 <Zakim> +??P5
12:03:55 <steph> e.g. /nickname steve
12:04:19 <steph> zakim, aadd is Lauri
12:04:19 <Zakim> +Lauri; got it
12:04:38 <steph> zakim, ??p5 is PhilippO
12:04:38 <Zakim> +PhilippO; got it
12:04:58 <steph> Present: stephane, Raphael, ken, Steve, Philipp, Lauri
12:05:04 <NicolasC> nicolas here will follow via IRC
12:05:08 <steph> ok
12:05:19 <steph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009May/0001.html
12:05:25 <mib_8bmkt9> hello
12:05:27 <Zakim> + +0773440aaee
12:05:36 <Zakim> + +1.413.458.aaff
12:05:37 <steph> zakim, aaee is mira
12:05:38 <Zakim> +mira; got it
12:05:47 <steph> zakim, aaff is richard
12:05:47 <Zakim> +richard; got it
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12:06:22 <SteveWolak> hello
12:06:26 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-minutes.html
12:06:32 <steph> hi Steve it works fine
12:06:34 <Raphael> Present: Mira
12:06:53 <Raphael> Steph: Review of action items
12:06:54 <Zakim> + +0196266aagg
12:07:07 <steph> zakim, aagg is Betty
12:07:07 <Zakim> +Betty; got it
12:07:16 <SteveWolak> have you all seen this:  http://crowdtalk.wordpress.com/
12:08:01 <steph> http://www.webfoundation.org/2009/04/ictd-2009-travel-report.html
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12:08:07 <SteveWolak> I will talk about www.betavine.net later ...
12:08:38 <Raphael> Steph: Invites for questions and comments
12:09:08 <Raphael> Steph: Attehded ICT Africa in Kampala
12:09:34 <Zakim> + +91.11.41.aahh
12:09:35 <Raphael> Staph: planning to sum up Maputo meeting
12:09:45 <steph> zakim, aahh is Arun
12:09:45 <Zakim> +Arun; got it
12:10:18 <Raphael> Any new conference to mention?
12:10:50 <Raphael> I added one here http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Events
12:11:01 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/BetavineSocialExchangev2.pdf
12:11:24 <Raphael> Steph: Next: Presentation by Steve on Betavine
12:11:50 <Raphael> Using technology to facilitate social change
12:13:14 <Raphael> RD: I also use Kiva
12:13:40 <steph> rrsagent, make log public
12:14:01 <steph> zakim, who is making noise
12:14:01 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise', steph
12:14:03 <steph> zakim, who is making noise?
12:14:14 <Zakim> steph, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: raphael (51%), StevenW (27%), Betty (4%)
12:14:51 <Raphael> weird, I cut my voice channel...
12:15:04 <steph> zakim, mute raphael
12:15:04 <Zakim> raphael should now be muted
12:15:09 <steph> zakim, unmute raphael
12:15:09 <Zakim> raphael should no longer be muted
12:15:11 <Raphael> mute me
12:15:16 <steph> zakim, mute raphael
12:15:16 <Zakim> raphael should now be muted
12:17:50 <Phil> +q phil
12:17:56 <Raphael> q+
12:18:11 <SteveWolak> any questions
12:18:17 <steph> ack phil
12:18:21 <steph> q+
12:18:31 <Raphael> zakim, unmute me
12:18:31 <Zakim> raphael should no longer be muted
12:19:08 <Raphael> Steph, my sound is not good, could you please complement me, thanks
12:19:24 <rscullin> q+
12:19:34 <steph> sure
12:19:54 <steph> Phil: trying to do a similar things with students here
12:20:05 <steph> but missing tools and skills to complete projects
12:20:19 <steph> how university students can work with betavine
12:20:22 <steph> ?
12:20:47 <steph> phil: using students at the end of university life, doing projects
12:20:57 <SteveWolak> can you send me a link
12:20:59 <steph> and we want them to make real-world projects
12:21:22 <steph> time and availability is a major issue
12:21:45 <steph> steve: global developper community includes but not limited to student
12:22:32 <Raphael> Phil: main issue is group discipline
12:23:00 <Raphael> zakim: mute me
12:23:18 <steph> zakim, who is making noise ?
12:23:31 <steph> stephen: good idea to package work for students
12:23:36 <Zakim> steph, listening for 17 seconds I heard sound from the following: StevenW (22%), PhilippO (66%), Betty (4%)
12:23:45 <steph> zakim, mute me
12:23:45 <Zakim> stephane should now be muted
12:23:49 <steph> zakim, unmute me
12:23:49 <Zakim> stephane should no longer be muted
12:23:51 <Raphael> zakim: unmute me
12:24:03 <steph> ack raphael
12:24:41 <steph> raphael: more in hte problem owner side
12:24:53 <steph> what are your business model ?
12:25:21 <steph> stephen: no particular business model, depneding on who is solving which problem
12:25:38 <steph> might involve local operators launching a new service
12:26:09 <steph> number of different models
12:26:19 <steph> and number different model for funding them
12:26:25 <steph> including commercial ones
12:26:43 <steph> could be also funded by gov. or public sectors. we are open
12:26:50 <steph> and explore different opportunities
12:26:56 <steph> ack me
12:27:37 <Raphael> Steph: understands that there is no technology limitation (i.e. SMS)
12:27:58 <Raphael> are there guidelines for projects?
12:28:21 <Raphael> Steve: are going to come up with guidelines
12:28:30 <Raphael> and a co-creation space
12:29:26 <Raphael> Steph: will there be development, standardized technologies?
12:29:35 <Raphael> development guidelines
12:29:48 <Raphael> Steve: will encourage open-source solutions
12:29:57 <Raphael> but no limited to
12:30:37 <rscullin> http://nextbillion.mit.edu/
12:30:52 <steph> ack rscullin
12:31:19 <Raphael> Richard: the next three years there will see 1 billion subscribers at BoP 
12:32:50 <Raphael> there is an active entrepreneurial group at MIT on these development issue and apps
12:33:07 <Raphael> sees links with betavine initiative
12:33:26 <steph> zakim, who is making noise ?
12:33:43 <Zakim> steph, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: StevenW (75%)
12:33:58 <Raphael> Steve is back on the presentation, slide 14
12:36:49 <Raphael> Steph: what is your timeline?
12:37:08 <Raphael> Steve: build the website between now and Sept.
12:37:19 <Raphael> run a pilot between Sept and new year
12:38:01 <Raphael> looking for NGOs to sign up for the trial in Sept.
12:38:08 <SteveWolak> http://crowdtalk.wordpress.com/
12:38:21 <Raphael> looking for feedback via his blog
12:39:46 <rscullin> q+
12:39:53 <Raphael> Steve: anyone has contact with NGOs?
12:39:56 <steph> ack rscullin
12:41:05 <Raphael> q+
12:42:03 <Raphael> Steph: you may want to look at the participants list of the Maputo Workshop for NGO names
12:42:29 <Phil> q+
12:42:57 <steph> ack raohael
12:43:02 <steph> ack raphael
12:43:33 <kiwanja> (need to shoot, steph. interesting presentation. let's connect in the week!)
12:44:09 <Zakim> -Ken
12:44:46 <Raphael> Raph: can the platform work with projects that take place in countries where Vodafone is absent?
12:44:50 <Raphael> Steve: yes
12:45:04 <steph> ack phil
12:45:04 <Raphael> Steph, I missed the last one
12:45:22 <Raphael> thanks for completing :)
12:45:31 <steph> no problem
12:45:38 <rscullin> Thanks! This was great!
12:45:48 <SteveWolak> thank you for your time and questions
12:45:52 <Raphael> Thanks a lot, Steve
12:46:58 <Raphael> Steph: any other item for this call?
12:47:18 <Raphael> next teleconf. will be next week Monday
12:47:31 <Raphael> theme of discussion will be sent later
12:47:53 <rscullin> I have to drop. thanks!
12:48:04 <Zakim> -richard
12:48:06 <Raphael> Maputo workshop will also be discuted
12:48:13 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
12:48:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/11-mw4d-minutes.html steph
12:48:13 <Zakim> -Betty
12:48:14 <Zakim> -StevenW
12:48:14 <Zakim> -Arun
12:48:16 <Zakim> -stephane
12:48:17 <Zakim> -Lauri
12:48:19 <Zakim> -mira
12:48:24 <Zakim> -PhilippO
12:48:27 <Raphael> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:48:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/11-mw4d-minutes.html Raphael
12:48:28 <Zakim> -raphael
12:48:29 <Zakim> MWI_MW4D()8:00AM has ended
12:48:30 <Zakim> Attendees were +04122730aaaa, +58110aabb, stephane, raphael, Ken, +0776017aacc, StevenW, +035850558aadd, Lauri, PhilippO, +0773440aaee, +1.413.458.aaff, mira, richard,
12:48:32 <Zakim> ... +0196266aagg, Betty, +91.11.41.aahh, Arun
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14:54:49 <steph> rrsagent, excuse us
14:54:49 <RRSAgent> I see no action items