13:42:05 RRSAgent has joined #xhtml 13:42:05 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-irc 13:42:07 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:42:07 Zakim has joined #xhtml 13:42:09 Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2 13:42:09 ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 13:42:10 Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference 13:42:10 Date: 29 April 2009 13:42:28 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Apr/0052.html 13:42:33 Chair: Roland 13:45:14 I will only be in IRC today, on another concurrent call 13:45:41 IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started 13:45:48 +Roland_Merrick 13:46:04 Zakim, Roland_Merrick is Roland 13:46:04 +Roland; got it 13:46:57 ShaneM has joined #xhtml 13:47:41 +McCarron 13:48:14 Steven has joined #xhtml 13:48:38 zakim, who is here? 13:48:38 On the phone I see Roland, McCarron 13:48:39 On IRC I see Steven, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, Roland, mgylling, Tina, trackbot 13:49:35 zakim, dial stevgen-617 13:49:35 I am sorry, Steven; I do not know a number for stevgen-617 13:49:43 zakim, dial steven-617 13:49:43 ok, Steven; the call is being made 13:49:44 +Steven 13:51:31 scribe: Steven 13:51:40 rrsagent, make minutes 13:51:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-minutes.html Steven 13:52:04 Regrets: Alessio 13:55:24 +Gregory_Rosmaita 13:55:48 Topic: Role transition 13:56:03 Steven: The transition of role was OK'd yesterday 13:56:16 ... for some reason it didn't get copied to chairs or XHTML2 13:56:27 ... I'll check with Ralph 13:57:26 ... but I assume we can just proceed 13:57:50 Topic: 4 PERs 13:58:20 Steven: The draft transition announcement has been sent to Comm, and I am waiting for a definitive date, so that we can update the SOTD 13:59:48 ACTION: Steven to advance role module to CR 13:59:48 Created ACTION-80 - Advance role module to CR [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-05-06]. 14:00:04 ACTION-80 due one week later 14:00:04 ACTION-80 Advance role module to CR due date now one week later 14:00:52 Topic: Examples on Wiki 14:01:11 Gregory: I have been putting examples on the wiki, and it seems like it should be organised by module 14:01:51 ... just to let people know that I have been setting up this way 14:03:05 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2/i18n 14:06:06 Steven: You use Unicode characters instead of the real characters 14:06:26 Gregory: I prefer it that way for my accessibility software 14:06:54 Steven: You don't need to have separate URLs for the different press releases; that's the point of hreflang (or one of them at least) 14:07:45 Topic: Actions 14:07:58 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/pendingreview 14:08:15 ACTION-42 closed 14:08:15 ACTION-42 Request CR for role closed 14:08:30 Roland: Action 42 closed 14:08:44 Steven: I've just given myself the action to progress it to the next stage 14:08:58 Roland: Action 47 14:10:53 Steven: Addison OKd this 14:11:03 action-47 closed 14:11:03 ACTION-47 Reply to Addison with a request for a new attribute name. closed 14:11:50 Roland: @ for you Gregory, 58 and 59 14:12:58 Gregory: Action is done 14:13:06 Roland: We will put it on a future agenda 14:13:36 ... put them on the agenda for the future vftf 14:15:15 Roland: We'll close both then 14:16:53 rrsagent, make minutes 14:16:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-minutes.html Steven 14:17:34 Roland: We need to close and reopen action 31, since we decided to take Access back to last call 14:18:30 ACTION was - Steven to propose a rephrasing of the about attribute inheritance 14:18:30 rules. 14:18:30 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action05] 14:18:42 Steven: That's all been done in RDFa 14:18:50 ... we only have to refer to that 14:20:32 ACTION was - ShaneM - break Issues 7659 and 7656 into individual issues so can 14:20:32 be addressed 14:20:32 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action12] 14:20:39 ACTION-64 done 14:20:41 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-curie-20090422/ 14:20:46 Shane: Action 64 is done 14:20:54 ACTION-64 closed 14:20:54 ACTION-64 Change CURIE spec to make the prefix mechanism the responsibility of the host language closed 14:21:30 shane: I'm still on action 73; the RDF is tricky, but I'll have it done today 14:21:38 Roland: Talking of CURIEs 14:21:48 ... there was the guy who wasn't happy 14:22:07 ... did we talk to the other RDFa people about sending a comment to OWL? 14:22:45 Shane: I sent a request, didn't hear anything back 14:23:00 Steven: Is there a call tomorrow? 14:23:02 Shane: No 14:23:09 Steven: When are the comments due 14:23:20 Shane: Sometime yet; only started last week 14:24:27 Shane: Oh yes, there is a call this week 14:24:38 ... I will be on it 14:25:16 Topic: Three missing elements in B. Element prohibitions 14:25:21 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0010.html 14:28:24 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0010.html 14:28:38 "(#PCDATA | %special; | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %inline.forms; | %misc.inline;)*"> 14:28:38 14:28:38 14:28:38 14:28:40 "(#PCDATA | a | %special.basic; | %fontstyle.basic; | %phrase.basic; | 14:28:44 %inline.forms; | %misc.inline;)*"> 14:31:03 Steven: I have never understood this restriction 14:31:56 ... I think of pre as keeping whitespace and newlines, and using a fixed width font 14:32:43 ... I'm pretty sure that XHTML2 doesn't have this restriction 14:32:53 ... but that's not to the point of this person's comment 14:32:59 ... which looks like it is right 14:33:06 ... that the DTD and the text disagree 14:34:27 Steven: HTML4 says this - 14:34:49 http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/dtd.html#pre.exclusion 14:36:37 Shane; Let's add it to the text, as a clarification 14:36:50 ... the DTD is correct 14:36:59 ... the text only refers to the strict version 14:38:31 Steven: I have already asked for the transition, so I feel a bit shaky about making this change now 14:38:49 Roland: Then we put it in the pipeline for the next version, and reply to this guy that he is right 14:40:49 http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/REC-xhtml1-20090320-errata 14:40:59 Steven: We can add it there 14:41:32 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0015.html 14:41:50 Topic: White space handline in XHTML 1.0 14:42:35 Steven: What's up 14:42:44 Shane: XML defines our shitespace handling 14:42:48 Steven: Right 14:42:57 ... so we just have to tell him that 14:43:01 s/shite/white 14:43:21 Shane: We defer to XML for input and CSS for output 14:43:25 Steven: Exactly right 14:43:39 Topic: AOB 14:44:25 Steven: I'm not here next week 14:44:44 ... I'll ping Ralph on the transition 14:44:55 I have defined a new Container role-properties in the xhtml vocab document. it contains all of the values directly or indirectly 14:45:51 [ADJOURN] 14:46:09 -Roland 14:46:10 -Gregory_Rosmaita 14:46:10 -Steven 14:46:12 -McCarron 14:46:12 IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended 14:46:13 Attendees were Roland, McCarron, Steven, Gregory_Rosmaita 14:47:06 Roland has left #xhtml 15:58:19 Zakim has left #xhtml 16:05:42 ShaneM has left #xhtml 16:08:36 rrsagent, bye 16:08:36 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-actions.rdf : 16:08:36 ACTION: Steven to advance role module to CR [1] 16:08:36 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-irc#T13-59-48