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14:57:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
14:57:55 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
14:57:56 <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2009
14:58:02 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0009.html
14:58:10 <dom> Chair: Wilhelm
14:58:15 <hendry> wilhelm: yes, a very high value
14:59:02 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
14:59:09 <Zakim> +Wilhelm
14:59:14 <Zakim> +??P17
14:59:17 <Zakim> -Wilhelm
14:59:18 <Zakim> +Wilhelm
14:59:44 <Zakim> +Carmelo
14:59:57 <Zakim> +Dom
15:00:06 <dom> zakim, ??P17 is Kai
15:00:06 <Zakim> +Kai; got it
15:00:27 <dom> Topic: Widgets testing
15:00:34 <dom> -> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ Widgets test suites
15:00:36 <dom> ACTION-2?
15:00:36 <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
15:00:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
15:00:49 <dom> Kai: good news: Robert has been responsive, we've been going back and forth
15:00:50 <hendry> http://wtf.webvm.net/
15:01:09 <dom> ... and I'm in the process of porting some of the tests to http://wtf.webvm.net/ where the framework is now hosted
15:01:14 <dom> ... it's now a lot better!
15:01:48 <dom> ... I still have some questions for Robert - e.g. there is an Opera-specific configuration file that would need to be changed to comply with the spec
15:02:04 <dom> ... and I'd like to work with the same source control system with Robert
15:02:18 <dom> ... hopefully, by next week, I'd like to see all the tests working in the framework
15:02:37 <dom> Dom: could we have a tour of the framework next week?
15:02:42 <dom> Kai: Sure
15:02:54 <dom> ACTION: Kai to provide a tour of WTF during a call
15:02:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-36 - Provide a tour of WTF during a call [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].
15:03:05 <dom> Topic: Device independent testing guidelines
15:03:14 <dom> -> http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html Device Independent test guidelines
15:03:16 <dom> ACTION-30?
15:03:16 <trackbot> ACTION-30 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review Kai's version of the guidelines -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:03:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30
15:03:27 <dom> ACTION-30: closed
15:03:27 <trackbot> ACTION-30 Review Kai's version of the guidelines notes added
15:03:27 <trackbot> If you meant to close ACTION-30, please use 'close ACTION-30'
15:03:38 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0010.html Dom's comments
15:03:44 <dom> ACTION-30 closed
15:03:44 <trackbot> ACTION-30 Review Kai's version of the guidelines closed
15:04:18 <dom> ACTION: Kai to respond to Dom's comments
15:04:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Respond to Dom's comments [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].
15:05:03 <dom> Dom: let's see if we can agree on getting the document published
15:05:18 <dom> ACTION: Dom to integrate what he wants from Kai's version
15:05:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Integrate what he wants from Kai's version [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-05].
15:05:42 <dom> Topic: Memory test
15:05:44 <dom> ACTION-32?
15:05:45 <trackbot> ACTION-32 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to raise limit of memory test -- due 2009-04-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:05:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/32
15:05:48 <dom> ACTION-32 closed
15:05:48 <trackbot> ACTION-32 Raise limit of memory test closed
15:05:54 <dom> ACTION-33?
15:05:54 <trackbot> ACTION-33 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to re-run memory test once limit is raised up -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
15:05:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33
15:06:21 <dom> Wilhelm: I've started doing that - was a bit confusing; my device is now downloading insane amount of data and will send feedback
15:06:28 <dom> Topic: Web Compatibility Tests
15:06:32 <dom> ACTION-35?
15:06:32 <trackbot> ACTION-35 -- Kai Hendry to look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers -- due 2009-04-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:06:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/35
15:06:36 <dom> ACTION-35 closed
15:06:36 <trackbot> ACTION-35 Look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers closed
15:06:58 <dom> Kai: I asked around to different people I know, esp. among webkit people
15:07:09 <dom> ... has been turned off for performance reasons
15:07:17 <dom> ... but after all, I think it's worth keeping
15:07:33 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0007.html Kai's proposed new tests
15:08:00 <dom> Kai: application cache is probably the most controversial
15:08:07 <dom> ... does opera support this?
15:08:10 <dom> Wilhelm: I don't know :)
15:08:28 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to look through Kai's proposals for new tests
15:08:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Look through Kai's proposals for new tests [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-05].
15:09:55 <dom> Dom: I'm interested in Application cache, but this would require removing an existing test
15:10:15 <dom> ACTION: Kai to provide a version of the wctmb with more difficult canvas test
15:10:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-40 - Provide a version of the wctmb with more difficult canvas test [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].
15:11:32 <dom> Kai: do we really have an onload test?
15:11:47 <dom> Wilhelm: not exactly - several tests rely on onload
15:12:02 <dom> Dom: so this would be putting two new tests in the balance with others
15:12:48 <dom> Kai: I noticed that XXX doesn't look up handheld stylesheet
15:13:17 <dom> ... is that something we want to test for?
15:14:14 <dom> Dom: I think Media Queries probably cover the needs of what we want to highlight there
15:14:19 <dom> ... cf my AListApart article :)
15:14:24 <dom> Topic: Blog
15:14:40 <dom> ACTION-28 closed
15:14:40 <trackbot> ACTION-28 Blog about new jquery test in wctmb closed
15:14:54 <dom> ACTION-34?
15:14:54 <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
15:14:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34
15:15:12 <dom> ACTION-34?
15:15:12 <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Carmelo Montanez to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
15:15:12 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34
15:15:18 <dom> Topic: OMA
15:15:23 <dom> ACTION-21?
15:15:23 <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
15:15:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
15:15:26 <dom> ACTION-14?
15:15:26 <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
15:15:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
15:16:49 <dom> Topic: WCTMB acronym
15:17:08 <dom> ACTION: Kai to add the WCTMB acronym to the test
15:17:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Add the WCTMB acronym to the test [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-05].
15:17:43 <dom> Topic: Next meeting
15:17:46 <dom> May 5
15:17:50 <Zakim> -Kai
15:17:51 <Zakim> -Dom
15:17:52 <Zakim> -Carmelo
15:17:52 <Zakim> -Wilhelm
15:17:54 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
15:17:55 <Zakim> Attendees were Wilhelm, Carmelo, Dom, Kai
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15:18:04 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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