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14:02:40 <janina> zakim, this is pf
14:02:40 <Zakim> ok, janina; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML)10:00AM
14:02:45 <janina> zakim, call janina
14:02:45 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
14:02:46 <Zakim> +Janina
14:03:16 <janina> Hey, Josh!
14:03:43 <oedipus> hey, janina, dialing in in a moment
14:04:16 <oedipus> for reference: http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/Caucus
14:04:33 <oedipus> HTML5 Issues & Requirements start page: http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5
14:05:29 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
14:08:18 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
14:11:52 <oedipus> sorry about that - it's going to take another few minutes before i can call in again
14:11:55 <oedipus> meantime http://www.galaxyzoo.org/
14:12:06 <oedipus> "Your job is very simple! When classifying you will be shown an image of a galaxy and be asked a series of questions about it."
14:12:21 <oedipus> GZ: "All you need to do is to look for features that mark out different types of galaxy and answer the questions as well as you can."
14:12:37 <oedipus> (GZ = globalzoo not gez lemon!)
14:12:46 <oedipus> GZ: "If you find it hard to decide upon the answer to a particular question, don't worry!"
14:12:52 <oedipus> GZ: "By looking at all the answers given for each galaxy, scientists will be able to work out which is most likely to be the right one"
14:13:06 <oedipus> GZ: "Your individual opinion is extremely important to making that possible."
14:13:15 <oedipus> GZ is not only an extremely intriguing project, it also exposes the fallicy of 2 red-herrings:
14:13:16 <oedipus> 1. the "Flickr" argument against requiring alt for images that are mass uploaded
14:13:16 <oedipus> (it is up to the uploading aggregator app to provide a means of adding alt to images so that the final product can validate)
14:13:16 <oedipus> 2. the "image hueristics" canard - GZ: "This is a job that humans are much better at than computers"
14:13:33 <oedipus> need to change topic to gregory WILL flood the buffer
14:14:05 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
14:14:19 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
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14:15:18 <Joshue> @summary issue: Action 111 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111
14:16:08 <Joshue> Janina, Sam notes on the above page that "Not finding any takers to date, if I don't find one by the end of the month, I'm inclined to close this due to lack of interest."
14:16:33 <oedipus> https://www.galaxyzoo.org/how_to_take_part
14:16:42 <oedipus> https://www.galaxyzoo.org/story
14:17:06 <oedipus> http://www.galaxyzoo.org/copyright
14:19:42 <Joshue>  thats a good find GJR
14:20:47 <oedipus> http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/MachineImageProcessing
14:20:49 <Joshue> I gotta say they are amazing photos also..
14:20:56 <oedipus> http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5/HumanImageProcessing
14:21:16 <oedipus> i like to go through JPL photos with my teenaged nephew
14:21:39 <oedipus> "There MUST be a means of adding human parseable terse descriptors using alt or aria-labelledby. Tools like Flickr should aim for ATAG and WCAG compliance. Ideally, the author should be prompted to provide terse descriptors at load-time or pre-load, but definitely MUST provide a facility to attach terse descriptors to each image post-load." 
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14:27:32 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
14:27:43 <Joshue> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/111
14:39:25 <Zakim> - +2
14:42:22 <janina> We want to discuss profile attribute on head for a Wednesday call
14:43:18 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
14:43:20 <Zakim> -Janina
14:43:21 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML)10:00AM has ended
14:43:23 <Zakim> Attendees were +2, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Cynthia_Shelly
14:49:05 <oedipus> present- +2
14:49:10 <oedipus> present: Josh
14:49:14 <oedipus> regrets: Gez
14:49:18 <oedipus> chair: janina
14:49:30 <oedipus> meeting: PF Weekly HTML5 Issues Caucus
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14:50:03 <oedipus> present+ Janina, Gregory, Cynthia, Michael_Cooper
14:50:33 <oedipus> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2009AprJun/0157.html
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