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14:55:49 <msporny> zakim, this will be rdfa
14:55:49 <Zakim> ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:55:59 <msporny> Scribe: Manu_Sporny
14:56:06 <msporny> ScribeNick: msporny
14:56:15 <msporny> Meeting: RDF in XHTML Task Force
14:56:23 <msporny> Chair: Ben_Adida
14:56:33 <msporny> rrsagent, make log public
14:56:55 <msporny> previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/04/02-rdfa-minutes.html
14:57:12 <msporny> present: Manu_Sporny, Ralph_Swick, Ben_Adida
14:57:27 <msporny> regrets: Mark_Birbeck Michael_Hausenblas
14:57:37 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:57:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html msporny
14:58:18 <msporny> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Apr/0045.html
14:58:22 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:58:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html msporny
14:59:45 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
14:59:52 <Zakim> +Ralph
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15:00:51 <msporny> ha! Sorry, didn't mean to presume, Ralph :)
15:00:58 <msporny> present+ Steven_Pemberton
15:01:26 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
15:01:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ralph
15:01:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven, Zakim, RRSAgent, msporny, Ralph, markbirbeck
15:01:38 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:41 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:01:45 <Zakim> +Steven
15:01:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:01:58 <msporny> zakim, I am ??IPcaller
15:01:58 <Zakim> sorry, msporny, I do not see a party named '??IPcaller'
15:02:03 <msporny> zakim, I am +IPcaller
15:02:03 <Zakim> sorry, msporny, I do not see a party named '+IPcaller'
15:02:05 <msporny> zakim, I am IPcaller
15:02:05 <Zakim> ok, msporny, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
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15:07:32 <msporny> Topic: Action Items
15:11:22 <msporny> regrets+ Shane_McCarron
15:23:17 <msporny> ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
15:23:26 <msporny> -- continues
15:23:34 <msporny> ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
15:23:35 <msporny> -- drop
15:23:42 <msporny> ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
15:23:44 <msporny> -- continues
15:23:52 <msporny> ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
15:23:56 <msporny> -- continues
15:24:02 <msporny> ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
15:24:05 <msporny> -- continues
15:24:12 <msporny> ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
15:24:15 <msporny> -- continues
15:24:23 <msporny> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
15:24:25 <msporny> -- continues
15:24:32 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
15:24:34 <msporny> -- continues
15:24:39 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
15:24:39 <msporny>  
15:24:39 <msporny> [DONE] ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html about resolving relative URIs [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
15:24:39 <msporny> [DONE] ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]
15:24:40 <msporny>  
15:24:42 <msporny> [End of minutes]
15:24:44 <msporny> Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl version 1.135 (CVS log)
15:24:56 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
15:24:58 <msporny> -- continues
15:25:03 <Zakim> -Steven
15:25:13 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:25:13 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:25:14 <Zakim> +Steven
15:25:57 <msporny> rrsagent, drop action 9
15:26:17 <msporny> rrsagent, drop action 8
15:26:40 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
15:26:45 <msporny> -- continues
15:26:53 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
15:26:55 <msporny> -- continues
15:27:54 <msporny> Topic: @prefix discussion status
15:28:16 <msporny> benadida: Wanted to have a meta-discussion on @prefix.
15:30:57 <msporny> benadida: Should we hold off on the @prefix discussion?
15:31:43 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
15:32:19 <Zakim> +??P3
15:32:27 <Ralph> zakim, ??p3 is Manu
15:32:32 <Zakim> +Manu; got it
15:33:11 <msporny> Steven: AC meeting was good because we got to talk about all of the companies that were using XHTML2.
15:33:54 <msporny> benadida: There seemed to be a big disconnect between WHATWG/HTML5 and the ideas and usage behind XHTML2.
15:34:28 <msporny> benadida: If you are going to support extensibility in HTML5, how are you going to ignore all previous XML technologies?
15:35:23 <msporny> prefix="a=b c = d"
15:35:30 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/04/02-rdfa-minutes.html#item03 previous @prefix discussion
15:35:48 <Ralph> <ShaneM> (.*)[\s\r\n]*=[\s\r\n]*(.*?)[\s\r\n]+
15:36:04 <Ralph> ^Shane proposed that regex
15:36:25 <msporny> Manu: After the discussion last week, I think we agreed on Shane's regex.
15:36:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
15:37:09 <msporny> ACTION: Manu to update wiki page on current consensus for @prefix
15:39:33 <msporny> benadida: What do you think about @xmlns over @prefix?
15:39:48 <msporny> Manu: Prefer @prefix because of HTML4 and xmlns: might be confusing to web developers.
15:40:33 <msporny> Ralph: Might be interesting to see how HTML4->HTML5 conversion process works.
15:43:50 <msporny> Ralph: The SVG folks have the same issues with xmlns not being in HTML5.
15:44:08 <msporny> benadida: So this issue is much bigger than RDFa.
15:44:26 <msporny> Ralph: Yes, it has to do with general extensibility.
15:44:57 <msporny> benadida: @prefix wiki page should say it is an alternate prefix mapping mechanism.
15:45:54 <msporny> Ralph: There is a danger in confusing authors by having two mechanisms to do the same thing.
15:46:17 <msporny> benadida: So if we have a syntax, we can back-burner it and see what happens with the xmlns discussion.
15:46:33 <msporny> Topic: Report on AC meeting
15:46:42 <msporny> benadida: Kinda talked a bit about this already.
15:46:50 <msporny> Ralph: Yes, interested in hearing your take on it.
15:47:41 <msporny> benadida: Very positive meeting in tone and approach, Sam Ruby is a good guy.
16:06:22 <msporny> Topic: Task Force lifespan
16:06:29 <msporny> benadida: How much time does the task force have?
16:06:41 <msporny> Ralph: The end of June is the charter.
16:06:52 <msporny> Steven: XHTML2 charter is up in December 2009.
16:07:17 <msporny> Ralph: It could be June-December, depending on who continues to sponsor RDFa Task Force.
16:07:31 <msporny> Ralph: I think we should consider June the adjournment date.
16:07:56 <msporny> Ralph: We could turn the mailing list into an RDFa interest group, maybe fold it back into semantic web interest group.
16:08:12 <msporny> benadida: We should think about any last things we should think about as a task force.
16:10:02 <Zakim> -Steven
16:10:05 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
16:11:14 <Zakim> -Ralph
16:11:15 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
16:11:16 <Zakim> Attendees were Ralph, Steven, [IPcaller], Ben_Adida, Manu
16:11:24 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:11:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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