IRC log of mwts on 2009-04-14

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
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ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 14 April 2009
14:55:50 [Carmelo]
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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+Carmelo
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+ +47.23.69.aaaa
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+dom
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-dom
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+dom
15:00:48 [dom]
zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm
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+Wilhelm; got it
15:00:55 [dom]
zakim, who's noisy?
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I am sorry, dom; I don't have the necessary resources to track talkers right now
15:01:06 [dom]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0003.html
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Chair: Wihelm
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RRSAgent, draft minuts
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minuts', dom. Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:01:27 [dom]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html dom
15:01:31 [Zakim]
+??P33
15:01:38 [dom]
zakim, ??P33 is dmitri
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+dmitri; got it
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hendry: Joining the call?
15:03:15 [dom]
Topic: Device independent testing guidelines
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ACTION-30?
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ACTION-30 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review Kai's version of the guidelines -- due 2009-04-07 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30
15:03:39 [dom]
Topic: Memory Test
15:03:44 [dom]
ACTION-18?
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ACTION-18 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to run the memory test on his mobile devices -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/18
15:04:39 [dom]
-> http://www.w3.org/mid/1239095652.9152.4368.camel@localhost memory test results on dom's devices
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ACTION-16?
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ACTION-16 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to set up the memory test on the W3C server -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/16
15:05:06 [dom]
close ACTION-18
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ACTION-18 run the memory test on his mobile devices closed
15:05:24 [dom]
-> http://qa-dev.w3.org/2009/memory-test/ W3C version of memory test
15:05:42 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to raise limit of memory test
15:05:42 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-32 - Raise limit of memory test [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-04-21].
15:05:59 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhelm to re-run memory test once limit is raised up
15:05:59 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-33 - Re-run memory test once limit is raised up [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-04-21].
15:06:05 [dom]
close ACTION-16
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ACTION-16 set up the memory test on the W3C server closed
15:06:26 [dom]
Topic: Web Compatibility Test
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ACTION-28?
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ACTION-28 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to blog about new jquery test in wctmb -- due 2009-03-31 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/28
15:06:43 [dom]
Wilhelm: I've made a draft - ready to publish
15:07:35 [dom]
ACTION-31?
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ACTION-31 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to update the WCTMB documentation wrt jquery -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/31
15:07:53 [dom]
ACTION-31 closed
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ACTION-31 Update the WCTMB documentation wrt jquery closed
15:08:08 [dom]
Dom: documentation is now up to date (and so is the diagram)
15:08:21 [dom]
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0000.html Kai's concern on mutation test
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Wilehlm: will discuss that when Kai is around
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Topic: Blog
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ACTION-29?
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ACTION-29 -- Kai Hendry to blog about Nokia store and testing WCTMB -- due 2009-03-31 -- CLOSED
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/29
15:08:43 [dom]
ACTION-29 closed
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ACTION-29 Blog about Nokia store and testing WCTMB closed
15:09:24 [dom]
Wilhelm: perhaps we could do something on the memory test
15:09:30 [dom]
dom: good idea
15:09:35 [hendry]
oh no, i forgot
15:10:27 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise)
15:10:27 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-34 - Draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-04-21].
15:10:37 [Zakim]
+??P0
15:10:43 [dom]
zakim, ??P0 is kai
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+kai; got it
15:11:11 [dom]
Topic: Widgets testing
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ACTION-2?
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ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
15:11:28 [dom]
Kai: still waiting from Robert
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Wilhelm: he has been away - should be back this week
15:12:12 [dom]
Dom: what's the latest news from Widgets specs land?
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Kai: still the same - waiting for next update end of April
15:12:45 [dom]
... there seemed to be a lot of changes, incl. the section numbers (which means I'll have to change the names of my tests)
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Topic: back to WCTMB
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0000.html Kai's concern on mutation test
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Kai: any view from Opera on whether DOM Mutation is over the top for mobile devices?
15:13:48 [dom]
Wilhelm: we support it, but I don't know much of the details
15:14:17 [dom]
Kai: I've been talking with WebKit people and they seem to be thinking it's a performance pb
15:14:56 [dom]
Dom: should we explore what other browsers do?
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... e.g. Fennec
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... or the impact of DOM Mutation on Opera?
15:15:45 [dom]
Kai: Firefox supports it, Opera supports it
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... I haven't checked Google Chrome
15:16:11 [dom]
... no webkit build supports it, although I think it's in the code
15:16:23 [dom]
ACTION: Kai to look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers
15:16:23 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-35 - Look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-04-21].
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Topic: OMA
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ACTION-21?
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ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
15:16:48 [dom]
Wilhelm: I have a bunch of data, but needs to make them readable
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ACTION-14?
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ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
15:17:21 [dom]
Topic: canvas on webkit
15:17:40 [dom]
Kai: I've noticed a pb with canvas on Webkit with alphablending
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Topic: Next meeting
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Kai: it might be difficult for me to join too
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RESOLVED: next meeting April 28
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-dmitri
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-Carmelo
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-dom
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-kai
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s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
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-Wilhelm
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Carmelo, +47.23.69.aaaa, dom, Wilhelm, dmitri, kai
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html dom
15:22:44 [dom]
RRSAgent, bye
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I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Dom to raise limit of memory test [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-05-42
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ACTION: Wilhelm to re-run memory test once limit is raised up [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-05-59
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ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-10-27
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ACTION: Kai to look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-16-23
15:22:45 [dom]
Zakim, bye
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