14:52:57 RRSAgent has joined #mwts 14:52:57 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc 14:52:59 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:52:59 Zakim has joined #mwts 14:53:01 Zakim, this will be MWI_TS 14:53:01 ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes 14:53:02 Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference 14:53:02 Date: 14 April 2009 14:55:50 Carmelo has joined #mwts 14:59:46 MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started 14:59:47 +Carmelo 15:00:17 + +47.23.69.aaaa 15:00:37 +dom 15:00:38 -dom 15:00:38 +dom 15:00:48 zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm 15:00:48 +Wilhelm; got it 15:00:55 zakim, who's noisy? 15:00:55 I am sorry, dom; I don't have the necessary resources to track talkers right now 15:01:06 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0003.html 15:01:10 Chair: Wihelm 15:01:25 RRSAgent, draft minuts 15:01:25 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minuts', dom. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:01:27 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:01:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html dom 15:01:31 +??P33 15:01:38 zakim, ??P33 is dmitri 15:01:38 +dmitri; got it 15:02:05 dsilaev has joined #mwts 15:02:21 hendry: Joining the call? 15:03:15 Topic: Device independent testing guidelines 15:03:17 ACTION-30? 15:03:18 ACTION-30 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review Kai's version of the guidelines -- due 2009-04-07 -- OPEN 15:03:18 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/30 15:03:39 Topic: Memory Test 15:03:44 ACTION-18? 15:03:45 ACTION-18 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to run the memory test on his mobile devices -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW 15:03:45 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/18 15:04:39 -> http://www.w3.org/mid/1239095652.9152.4368.camel@localhost memory test results on dom's devices 15:05:02 ACTION-16? 15:05:02 ACTION-16 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to set up the memory test on the W3C server -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW 15:05:02 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/16 15:05:06 close ACTION-18 15:05:06 ACTION-18 run the memory test on his mobile devices closed 15:05:24 -> http://qa-dev.w3.org/2009/memory-test/ W3C version of memory test 15:05:42 ACTION: Dom to raise limit of memory test 15:05:42 Created ACTION-32 - Raise limit of memory test [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-04-21]. 15:05:59 ACTION: Wilhelm to re-run memory test once limit is raised up 15:05:59 Created ACTION-33 - Re-run memory test once limit is raised up [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-04-21]. 15:06:05 close ACTION-16 15:06:05 ACTION-16 set up the memory test on the W3C server closed 15:06:26 Topic: Web Compatibility Test 15:06:33 ACTION-28? 15:06:33 ACTION-28 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to blog about new jquery test in wctmb -- due 2009-03-31 -- OPEN 15:06:33 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/28 15:06:43 Wilhelm: I've made a draft - ready to publish 15:07:35 ACTION-31? 15:07:35 ACTION-31 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to update the WCTMB documentation wrt jquery -- due 2009-04-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW 15:07:35 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/31 15:07:53 ACTION-31 closed 15:07:53 ACTION-31 Update the WCTMB documentation wrt jquery closed 15:08:08 Dom: documentation is now up to date (and so is the diagram) 15:08:21 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0000.html Kai's concern on mutation test 15:08:29 Wilehlm: will discuss that when Kai is around 15:08:36 Topic: Blog 15:08:38 ACTION-29? 15:08:38 ACTION-29 -- Kai Hendry to blog about Nokia store and testing WCTMB -- due 2009-03-31 -- CLOSED 15:08:38 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/29 15:08:43 ACTION-29 closed 15:08:43 ACTION-29 Blog about Nokia store and testing WCTMB closed 15:09:24 Wilhelm: perhaps we could do something on the memory test 15:09:30 dom: good idea 15:09:35 oh no, i forgot 15:10:27 ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) 15:10:27 Created ACTION-34 - Draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-04-21]. 15:10:37 +??P0 15:10:43 zakim, ??P0 is kai 15:10:44 +kai; got it 15:11:11 Topic: Widgets testing 15:11:13 ACTION-2? 15:11:13 ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN 15:11:13 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2 15:11:28 Kai: still waiting from Robert 15:11:36 Wilhelm: he has been away - should be back this week 15:12:12 Dom: what's the latest news from Widgets specs land? 15:12:20 Kai: still the same - waiting for next update end of April 15:12:45 ... there seemed to be a lot of changes, incl. the section numbers (which means I'll have to change the names of my tests) 15:12:53 Topic: back to WCTMB 15:13:09 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Apr/0000.html Kai's concern on mutation test 15:13:31 Kai: any view from Opera on whether DOM Mutation is over the top for mobile devices? 15:13:48 Wilhelm: we support it, but I don't know much of the details 15:14:17 Kai: I've been talking with WebKit people and they seem to be thinking it's a performance pb 15:14:56 Dom: should we explore what other browsers do? 15:15:00 ... e.g. Fennec 15:15:10 ... or the impact of DOM Mutation on Opera? 15:15:45 Kai: Firefox supports it, Opera supports it 15:15:53 ... I haven't checked Google Chrome 15:16:11 ... no webkit build supports it, although I think it's in the code 15:16:23 ACTION: Kai to look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers 15:16:23 Created ACTION-35 - Look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-04-21]. 15:16:30 Topic: OMA 15:16:34 ACTION-21? 15:16:34 ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN 15:16:34 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21 15:16:48 Wilhelm: I have a bunch of data, but needs to make them readable 15:16:52 ACTION-14? 15:16:52 ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN 15:16:52 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14 15:17:21 Topic: canvas on webkit 15:17:40 Kai: I've noticed a pb with canvas on Webkit with alphablending 15:18:15 Topic: Next meeting 15:18:45 Kai: it might be difficult for me to join too 15:18:54 RESOLVED: next meeting April 28 15:18:57 -dmitri 15:18:59 -Carmelo 15:19:02 -dom 15:19:05 -kai 15:19:10 s/ ->/ ->/g 15:19:13 -Wilhelm 15:19:15 MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended 15:19:18 Attendees were Carmelo, +47.23.69.aaaa, dom, Wilhelm, dmitri, kai 15:19:22 RRSAgent, draft minutes 15:19:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-minutes.html dom 15:22:44 RRSAgent, bye 15:22:44 I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-actions.rdf : 15:22:44 ACTION: Dom to raise limit of memory test [1] 15:22:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-05-42 15:22:44 ACTION: Wilhelm to re-run memory test once limit is raised up [2] 15:22:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-05-59 15:22:44 ACTION: Wilhelm to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) [3] 15:22:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-10-27 15:22:44 ACTION: Kai to look further into DOM Mutation impact on mobile browsers [4] 15:22:44 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/14-mwts-irc#T15-16-23 15:22:45 Zakim, bye 15:22:45 Zakim has left #mwts