IRC log of sparql on 2009-04-07
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 77277
- 13:51:57 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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- Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 07 April 2009
- 13:53:41 [LeeF]
- now i just have to deal with the people doing construction or yard work or something outside
- 13:54:28 [LeeF]
- not sure how well that worked for the last guy that tried it :D
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- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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- +john-l
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- +kasei
- 13:56:37 [kasei]
- Zakim, mute me
- 13:56:37 [Zakim]
- kasei should now be muted
- 13:57:19 [ivan]
- zakim, dial ivan-voip
- 13:57:19 [Zakim]
- ok, ivan; the call is being made
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- +Ivan
- 13:57:31 [LeeF]
- ivan, can you scribe today please?
- 13:57:36 [LeeF]
- oh wait
- 13:57:37 [LeeF]
- i'll scribe
- 13:57:39 [LeeF]
- nevermind
- 13:57:53 [Zakim]
- +??P16
- 13:59:18 [Zakim]
- +Lee_Feigenbaum
- 13:59:50 [LeeF]
- regrets next week: ivan
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- +??P24
- 14:00:31 [LeeF]
- zakim, ??P24 has SteveH, LukeWM
- 14:00:32 [Zakim]
- +SteveH, LukeWM; got it
- 14:00:38 [AxelPolleres]
- I can take over scribing.
- 14:00:48 [ywang4]
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- 14:00:48 [AxelPolleres]
- scribe: Axel Polleres
- 14:00:54 [LeeF]
- Scribenick: AxelPolleres
- 14:00:58 [AxelPolleres]
- scribenick: Axel Polleres
- 14:01:06 [SteveH]
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- topic: Admin
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- 14:01:41 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's here?
- 14:01:43 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see john-l, kasei (muted), Ivan, AxelPolleres, Lee_Feigenbaum, ??P24
- 14:01:50 [Zakim]
- ??P24 has SteveH, LukeWM
- 14:01:55 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see LukeWM, SteveH, ywang4, ivan, JanneS, RRSAgent, chimezie, kasei, AxelPolleres, bijan, SimonS, LeeF, KjetilK, iv_an_ru, Zakim, trackbot, john-l, ericP
- 14:01:59 [Zakim]
- +ywang4
- 14:02:11 [LeeF]
- Regrets: ericP, AndyS, AlexP
- 14:02:49 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: rearrangement on agenda, bijan joining later, so we shuffle a bit
- 14:02:52 [LeeF]
- PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-03-31
- 14:03:10 [Zakim]
- +SimonS
- 14:03:19 [AxelPolleres]
- no objections.
- 14:03:28 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-03-31
- 14:04:05 [LeeF]
- next meeting: 14-April
- 14:04:09 [LeeF]
- regrets next time: ivan, axel
- 14:04:22 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: next meeting, 14th, regrets Ivan & Axel
- 14:04:50 [AxelPolleres]
- ... last tleconf to discuss new features. THen we start with consensus reaching and consolidation.
- 14:05:05 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, what is the code?
- 14:05:05 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), KjetilK
- 14:05:08 [AxelPolleres]
- ... pls check features to be discussed and send your thoughts!
- 14:05:21 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: liaisons
- 14:05:42 [AxelPolleres]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/InternationalizedStringSpec
- 14:05:44 [LeeF]
- Axel: OWL WG and RIF WG discussing rdf:text datatype
- 14:05:59 [Zakim]
- + +1.479.864.aaaa
- 14:06:04 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, aaaa is me
- 14:06:04 [Zakim]
- +KjetilK; got it
- 14:06:12 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:06:12 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 14:07:02 [LeeF]
- Axel: might want SPARQL WG to review last call draft
- 14:08:05 [AxelPolleres]
- ACTION: Axel to send a pointer to the mailinglist for rdf:text, when it's up to LC
- 14:08:08 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-7 - Send a pointer to the mailinglist for rdf:text, when it's up to LC [on Axel Polleres - due 2009-04-14].
- 14:08:46 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: Discuss features
- 14:09:08 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: ControlOfDescribeQueries next week.
- 14:09:15 [LeeF]
- topic: Xproc
- 14:09:18 [LeeF]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2009Mar/0004.html
- 14:09:29 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: Xproc
- 14:10:20 [Zakim]
- +Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 14:10:39 [SteveH]
- q+
- 14:11:10 [ivan]
- -> http://www.w3.org/TR/xproc/ XPROC draft
- 14:11:54 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: looks like more related to RDF Core and XProc WG's. we can't do it alone.
- 14:12:00 [Zakim]
- +DaveNewman
- 14:12:03 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 14:12:11 [LeeF]
- ack SteveH
- 14:12:38 [AxelPolleres]
- Steve: on RDF/XML, XProc is solved and no problem.
- 14:13:13 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 14:13:22 [SteveH]
- ...that's not what I meant
- 14:13:32 [SteveH]
- I meant that RDF/XML is not our problem
- 14:13:34 [AxelPolleres]
- ... pipes.deri.org
- 14:13:55 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:13:55 [dnewman2]
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- 14:14:00 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres: DERI working on pipes tool - workflow for RDF, includes SPARQL - XML serialization, we will align with XProc
- 14:14:26 [AxelPolleres]
- xsparql.deri.org
- 14:15:22 [LeeF]
- LeeF: Does DERI think this is something we should pursue?
- 14:15:42 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres: Not in the core of our charter, would be better joint with XProc or XQuery folks, maybe people volunteering as a note
- 14:15:46 [LeeF]
- ack ivan
- 14:16:29 [AxelPolleres]
- (those comments chairhat-offf)
- 14:16:38 [ivan]
- -1
- 14:16:40 [KjetilK]
- -1 (out of scope)
- 14:16:41 [SteveH]
- -1, not our problem
- 14:16:41 [ywang4]
- 1
- 14:16:43 [john-l]
- -1
- 14:16:44 [kasei]
- -1
- 14:16:44 [ywang4]
- -1
- 14:16:44 [chimezie]
- -1
- 14:16:44 [LukeWM]
- -1
- 14:16:46 [AxelPolleres]
- Ivan: also think that this is not in the charter.
- 14:16:50 [SimonS]
- -1 out of scope
- 14:16:54 [dnewman2]
- -1
- 14:16:54 [ywang4]
- sorry, mine should be -1
- 14:16:55 [LeeF]
- -1
- 14:17:04 [AxelPolleres]
- Leef: strawpoll on Xproc??
- 14:17:12 [AxelPolleres]
- -1 out of scope
- 14:17:29 [LeeF]
- topic: XML literal results
- 14:17:30 [LeeF]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2009Mar/0022.html
- 14:17:53 [AxelPolleres]
- subtopic: XMLLiteral in results
- 14:18:19 [SteveH]
- q+ to ask about XML Schema
- 14:18:27 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: xml literals in results are currently encoded/escaped in SPARQL results.
- 14:18:41 [AxelPolleres]
- ... proposed here is unescaped XML in results
- 14:19:11 [LeeF]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0163.html EricP
- 14:19:53 [AxelPolleres]
- ... probably no implementation does it right now, but probably just because it is not compliant.
- 14:20:06 [LeeF]
- ack SteveH
- 14:20:06 [Zakim]
- SteveH, you wanted to ask about XML Schema
- 14:20:35 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:20:47 [AxelPolleres]
- steve: that would push us out of XML sparql result XSD.
- 14:21:04 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: we could using any content, but that's probably not helpful.
- 14:21:24 [AxelPolleres]
- q+ to ask about anytype in XML schema
- 14:21:38 [LeeF]
- ack ivan
- 14:22:04 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: issues around schema and RDF/XML were more complex than that.
- 14:22:20 [AxelPolleres]
- ... has there been a user request in this respect?
- 14:23:13 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 14:23:13 [Zakim]
- AxelPolleres, you wanted to ask about anytype in XML schema
- 14:24:58 [AxelPolleres]
- Axel: seems doable in XML Schema
- 14:25:19 [AxelPolleres]
- Lee: but not very helpful, w/o a mechanism to also specify which XML schema is meant there.
- 14:25:20 [SteveH]
- -1, too complex
- 14:25:22 [KjetilK]
- +1 (if the submitter can justify it further, I much prefer XML to be addressable with XPath)
- 14:25:26 [kasei]
- 0
- 14:25:27 [ivan]
- -1 priorities
- 14:25:28 [ywang4]
- -1
- 14:25:30 [chimezie]
- -1 low priority
- 14:25:33 [john-l]
- 0
- 14:25:35 [AxelPolleres]
- ... strawpoll on allowing unescaped XML?
- 14:25:35 [LukeWM]
- -1
- 14:25:38 [AxelPolleres]
- 0
- 14:25:40 [dnewman2]
- 0
- 14:25:40 [SimonS]
- -1
- 14:25:40 [LeeF]
- 0
- 14:26:24 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:26:24 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should no longer be muted
- 14:27:51 [AxelPolleres]
- Kjetil: sees potential in XML in results for being XPath processable. Likes to postpone this, because we may be talking about different things here, needs clarification.
- 14:28:01 [AxelPolleres]
- ... next week problematic for me.
- 14:28:53 [AxelPolleres]
- s/this,/ControlOfDescribeQueries,/
- 14:29:04 [LeeF]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009AprJun/0004.html
- 14:29:17 [KjetilK]
- Zakim: mute me
- 14:29:21 [LeeF]
- topic: SurfaceSyntax
- 14:29:25 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: let's look at surface syntax
- 14:29:34 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Feature:SurfaceSyntax
- 14:30:37 [AxelPolleres]
- ... this is about "syntactic sugar" to be definable in terms of the current spec.
- 14:32:39 [AxelPolleres]
- ... assignments, evaluated expressions partially overlap.
- 14:32:52 [AxelPolleres]
- ... scalarExpressions.
- 14:33:09 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:33:20 [AxelPolleres]
- ... my idea is treating these at once.
- 14:33:20 [SteveH]
- q+
- 14:33:23 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 14:33:27 [LeeF]
- ack ivan
- 14:33:45 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: these are low-priority things.
- 14:33:55 [LeeF]
- q+ to note educational / learning aspect
- 14:34:42 [LeeF]
- ack SteveH
- 14:34:49 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: syntactic sugar may give impression of huge changes, where there aren't
- 14:35:10 [AxelPolleres]
- steve: agree with ivan mostly.
- 14:35:44 [KjetilK]
- q+
- 14:36:23 [dnewman2]
- +q
- 14:36:25 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 14:36:27 [AxelPolleres]
- ... we should avoid "syntactic nightmare" extension
- 14:36:44 [SteveH]
- "syntactic nightmare" lack of extension, really
- 14:37:23 [LeeF]
- ?s :p `3 + 4`
- 14:37:40 [SteveH]
- you can't do that with a filter...
- 14:37:41 [LeeF]
- ?s :p `?o + 4`
- 14:37:45 [Zakim]
- +??P6
- 14:37:49 [bijan]
- zakim, ??P6 is me
- 14:37:49 [Zakim]
- +bijan; got it
- 14:37:52 [bijan]
- zakim, mute me
- 14:37:52 [Zakim]
- bijan should now be muted
- 14:38:44 [LeeF]
- q?
- 14:39:52 [LeeF]
- ack LeeF
- 14:39:52 [Zakim]
- LeeF, you wanted to note educational / learning aspect
- 14:40:12 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: scalar in construct could be a synt sugar subfeature of assignment.
- 14:40:30 [bijan]
- I'll note that good surface syntax can reveal optimization oppourtunities
- 14:40:32 [AxelPolleres]
- ... that is why I count it in "surface syntax"
- 14:40:45 [LeeF]
- ack KjetilK
- 14:41:23 [AxelPolleres]
- Kjetil: we shouldn't under-estimate the power of writing things quickly.
- 14:41:28 [SteveH]
- Garlik use ?x = ... || ?x = ... a lot
- 14:41:55 [chimezie]
- We also have had numerous requests for IN support
- 14:41:57 [LeeF]
- ack dnewman2
- 14:42:00 [LeeF]
- ack dnewman
- 14:42:02 [AxelPolleres]
- ... IN is an axemaple of that.
- 14:42:24 [AxelPolleres]
- dave: from an end user perspective this is very attractive.
- 14:42:48 [AxelPolleres]
- ... aligns in certain respects with SQL. would support it.
- 14:43:05 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: any othe opinions?
- 14:43:19 [ivan]
- 0
- 14:43:20 [KjetilK]
- +1 (but, yeah, lets do it at the end)
- 14:43:23 [bijan]
- 0
- 14:43:24 [SteveH]
- 0, it's too broad
- 14:43:25 [kasei]
- +1
- 14:43:26 [chimezie]
- +1
- 14:43:27 [dnewman2]
- +1
- 14:43:29 [SimonS]
- +1 agree with Kjetil and Dave, do it at the end
- 14:43:36 [john-l]
- 0
- 14:43:39 [LukeWM]
- +1 for at the end
- 14:43:39 [AxelPolleres]
- strawpoll: is work on surface syntax in general in scope of the WG?
- 14:43:45 [LeeF]
- +1 time permitting
- 14:43:51 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 14:43:51 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 14:43:51 [AxelPolleres]
- +1
- 14:43:53 [ywang4]
- +1
- 14:44:07 [SteveH]
- +1, time permitting, probably
- 14:44:08 [ywang4]
- and i think it should be a bit more
- 14:44:29 [AxelPolleres]
- (obvious and consensual surface syntax features only)
- 14:44:39 [bijan]
- zakim, unmute me
- 14:44:39 [Zakim]
- bijan should no longer be muted
- 14:44:54 [LeeF]
- topic: SPARQL/OWL
- 14:44:55 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Feature:SPARQL/OWL
- 14:44:58 [AxelPolleres]
- topic: sparql/owl
- 14:45:51 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: a document which specifies which additional inferneces/answers on BGP patterns you should get under various OWL/OWL2 entailment regimes
- 14:45:53 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:46:15 [AxelPolleres]
- LeeF: would we do it for one flavor of OWL?
- 14:46:49 [AxelPolleres]
- Bijan: my goal would be conjunctive queries. tend to look on existing implementations and reflect what they DO.
- 14:46:52 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 14:47:14 [AxelPolleres]
- ... with as much OWL as they can possibly handle
- 14:48:17 [AxelPolleres]
- ... kaon2 supports SPARQL with non-distiguished variables, over OWL2 w/o nominals, pellet supports all of SPARQL, Hermit will support as much as KOAN2.
- 14:48:20 [chimezie]
- q+ about relationship with general specification of entailment
- 14:48:27 [chimezie]
- q+
- 14:48:37 [AxelPolleres]
- ... racer pro supports NRQL, overlaps greatly with SPARQL.
- 14:49:09 [KjetilK]
- q+
- 14:49:11 [LukeWM]
- q+
- 14:49:13 [AxelPolleres]
- ... Quonto is an OLWLQL implementation, OWLGraph supports SPARQL.
- 14:49:23 [LeeF]
- ack ivan
- 14:49:47 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: what is the different in semantics we are talking about?
- 14:50:05 [LeeF]
- -> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#sparqlBGPExtend Extending SPARQL Basic Graph Pattern Matching
- 14:50:20 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: achievable goal is: if you turn on inference, you get more answers.
- 14:50:47 [AxelPolleres]
- ... it is not entirely clear ore desirable. certain meta-modeling in RDF are impossible to implement.
- 14:51:09 [AxelPolleres]
- ... e.g. redefining rdf:type.
- 14:51:49 [AxelPolleres]
- ... trey to restrict myself on queries that are reasonable in terms of both OWL and RDF.
- 14:52:25 [Zakim]
- -ywang4
- 14:52:35 [ywang4]
- gonna leave, cheers
- 14:52:42 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: are all queries you send to a OWL reasoner encodable in SPARQL or not?
- 14:52:44 [LeeF]
- take care, ywang4
- 14:52:53 [LeeF]
- see you next week
- 14:53:00 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: standard conjunctive queries yes fully covered by SPARQL.
- 14:53:09 [ywang4]
- see you guys :)
- 14:53:14 [ywang4]
- ywang4 has left #sparql
- 14:53:15 [AxelPolleres]
- ... SPARQL intuitivelty also allows asking about the SCHEMA.
- 14:53:34 [AxelPolleres]
- ... I think we can get a reasonable fraction of that.
- 14:53:51 [AxelPolleres]
- ivan: how much work and energy will it take?
- 14:54:08 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: mostly done from a paper I have, technically not difficult, transfer to spec.
- 14:54:09 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 14:55:04 [LeeF]
- ack chimezie
- 14:55:32 [AxelPolleres]
- Axel: linking,describing that on the wiki on the feature page, also that summary you gave would be extremly helpful.
- 14:56:30 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: schema queries doable to some extent, standard syntax for that.
- 14:57:09 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: use that entailment in queries qwould be something to standardize.
- 14:57:38 [AxelPolleres]
- q+
- 14:58:21 [AxelPolleres]
- Leef: mechanism to know which entailment is "done"
- 14:58:23 [ivan]
- q+
- 14:58:37 [LeeF]
- ack KjetilK
- 14:59:11 [chimezie]
- I'm wondering whether we can afford to do both this proposal as well as something like ParameterizedInference (which seems like the general case)
- 14:59:17 [AxelPolleres]
- kjetil: implementations that do simple bw-chaining, would that proposal influence them?
- 14:59:30 [chimezie]
- or whether there is overlap between the two
- 15:00:11 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: OWL has an OWL RL subprofile implementable in rules, QL implementable by rule expansion, OWL EL implementable in combination
- 15:00:31 [ivan]
- q-
- 15:00:36 [AxelPolleres]
- ... not sure whether this is answering your question.
- 15:01:12 [AxelPolleres]
- kjetil: would it cover to know "which profile is used by a certain engine"?
- 15:01:29 [KjetilK]
- Zakim, mute me
- 15:01:29 [Zakim]
- KjetilK should now be muted
- 15:01:33 [LeeF]
- ack LukeWM
- 15:01:37 [AxelPolleres]
- bijan: tell what you have is a separate issue
- 15:02:03 [kasei]
- bijan: based on the sparql-dl paper, it seems that you define a ast->triples conversion, but I didn't see the (presumably desirable) sparql syntax->ast conversion.
- 15:02:31 [LeeF]
- ack AxelPolleres
- 15:03:10 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres: is bnode coreference solved?
- 15:03:20 [LeeF]
- bijan: persists as an open issue, think I have a reasonable solution
- 15:03:50 [LeeF]
- ... think best way to get interoperability is to treat bnodes as local names
- 15:04:07 [ivan]
- q+
- 15:04:22 [LeeF]
- zakim, close the queue
- 15:04:22 [Zakim]
- ok, LeeF, the speaker queue is closed
- 15:05:02 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres: in terms of metaqueries, would you restrict certain queries?
- 15:05:27 [LeeF]
- bijan: two possibilies. 1) might need to restrict queries. 2) restrict answers, so e.g. if ?C subclass ?D
- 15:05:32 [LeeF]
- ... you could restrict answers to atomic classes only
- 15:05:37 [LeeF]
- ... to avoid infinite trivial answers
- 15:06:33 [SimonS]
- +q to ask whether syntactic restrictions are possible in SPARQL1 entailment regimes
- 15:07:13 [LeeF]
- bijan: algebra stays the same, it does operations on a tuple level
- 15:07:40 [AxelPolleres]
- ... only BGP.
- 15:08:32 [LeeF]
- ivan: do any other features affect this?
- 15:08:39 [LeeF]
- bijan: i don't think so since none of them trouch BGP matching semantics
- 15:08:56 [LeeF]
- ivan: would this be a separate document?
- 15:08:58 [LeeF]
- bijan: yes
- 15:09:57 [LeeF]
- SimonS: is it possible to restrict syntax within an entailment regime?
- 15:10:21 [LeeF]
- bijan: you can implement this by saying that for queries that you think are syntactically malformed you return nothing
- 15:11:10 [bijan]
- +1
- 15:11:11 [ivan]
- 1 (with the hope it will work out:-)
- 15:11:15 [KjetilK]
- +1 (since it is allready almost there, and it covers the simple stuff)
- 15:11:16 [LukeWM]
- 0
- 15:11:22 [dnewman2]
- +0
- 15:11:23 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's here?
- 15:11:23 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see john-l, kasei (muted), Ivan, AxelPolleres, Lee_Feigenbaum, ??P24, SimonS, KjetilK (muted), Chimezie_Ogbuji, DaveNewman, bijan
- 15:11:25 [SimonS]
- +1
- 15:11:26 [Zakim]
- ??P24 has SteveH, LukeWM
- 15:11:27 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see dnewman2, LukeWM, SteveH, ivan, RRSAgent, chimezie, kasei, AxelPolleres, bijan, SimonS, LeeF, KjetilK, iv_an_ru, Zakim, trackbot, john-l, ericP
- 15:11:29 [john-l]
- 0
- 15:11:33 [kasei]
- +1
- 15:11:35 [LeeF]
- +1
- 15:11:45 [chimezie]
- 0 (I still don't have a grasp on the relationship between this feature and the other entailment features requests)
- 15:11:46 [SteveH]
- 0, I like, but my org has no use for it sadly
- 15:11:52 [AxelPolleres]
- 0.5 thinking that this is only solvable in cinjunciton with Param Inference and need to get clearer about the issues.
- 15:12:08 [AxelPolleres]
- +1 (but in principle positive... ok)
- 15:12:12 [AxelPolleres]
- ok ok ok ;-)
- 15:12:20 [chimezie]
- bijan: okay I wilkl :)
- 15:12:26 [chimezie]
- s/wilkl/will
- 15:12:57 [Zakim]
- -AxelPolleres
- 15:13:01 [Zakim]
- -Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:13:07 [SteveH]
- bye, everyone
- 15:13:11 [Zakim]
- -KjetilK
- 15:13:12 [LukeWM]
- bye
- 15:13:15 [Zakim]
- -john-l
- 15:13:17 [Zakim]
- -Lee_Feigenbaum
- 15:13:17 [Zakim]
- -bijan
- 15:13:17 [Zakim]
- -DaveNewman
- 15:13:19 [Zakim]
- -SimonS
- 15:13:19 [Zakim]
- -??P24
- 15:13:20 [Zakim]
- -kasei
- 15:13:37 [ivan]
- lee is gone, I wanted to talk to him:-(
- 15:13:40 [LeeF]
- Encourage discussion of other features on the mailing list
- 15:14:01 [Zakim]
- +Lee_Feigenbaum
- 15:14:14 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's here?
- 15:14:14 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Ivan, Lee_Feigenbaum
- 15:14:15 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see SteveH, ivan, RRSAgent, chimezie, kasei, bijan, SimonS, LeeF, KjetilK, iv_an_ru, Zakim, trackbot, john-l, ericP
- 15:16:30 [kasei]
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- 15:19:12 [LukeWM]
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- 15:26:08 [Zakim]
- -Lee_Feigenbaum
- 15:26:14 [Zakim]
- -Ivan
- 15:26:16 [Zakim]
- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
- 15:26:18 [Zakim]
- Attendees were john-l, kasei, Ivan, AxelPolleres, Lee_Feigenbaum, SteveH, LukeWM, ywang4, SimonS, +1.479.864.aaaa, KjetilK, Chimezie_Ogbuji, DaveNewman, bijan
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