IRC log of mw4d on 2009-04-06

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11:56:15 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-irc
11:56:19 [steph]
zakim, this will be mw4d
11:56:19 [Zakim]
ok, steph, I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM already started
11:56:38 [steph]
Meeting: MW4D IG bi-monthly meeting
11:56:43 [steph]
Chair: Stephane
11:57:11 [steph]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Apr/0002.html
11:57:20 [steph]
zakim, code ?
11:57:20 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
11:57:45 [Zakim]
+steph
11:57:56 [steph]
Present:Stephane
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Present+Arun
12:03:57 [Zakim]
+??P2
12:04:19 [steph]
zakim, ??p2 is ken
12:04:19 [Zakim]
+ken; got it
12:05:24 [Zakim]
+ +035850558aabb
12:05:27 [kiwanja]
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12:05:33 [steph]
zakim, aabb is lauri
12:05:33 [Zakim]
+lauri; got it
12:08:04 [steph]
zakim, who is here ?
12:08:04 [Zakim]
On the phone I see +91.11.41.29.aaaa, steph, ken, lauri
12:08:06 [Zakim]
On IRC I see kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph, Arun
12:08:45 [steph]
zakim, aaaa is arun ?
12:08:45 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, steph.
12:08:54 [steph]
zakim, aaaa is arun
12:08:54 [Zakim]
+arun; got it
12:09:31 [steph]
zakim, who is here ?
12:09:31 [Zakim]
On the phone I see arun, steph, ken, lauri
12:09:32 [Zakim]
On IRC I see kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph, Arun
12:14:27 [steph]
Topic: approval of last meeting minutes
12:14:31 [steph]
approved
12:14:44 [steph]
Topic: Maputo Workshop summary
12:23:11 [Raphael]
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12:24:27 [Zakim]
+ +41.22.730.aacc
12:24:44 [steph]
present+Raphael
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12:27:51 [nicolas]
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12:27:53 [Raphael]
Was there any example of blocking regulations?
12:28:23 [nicolas]
hi all, sorry mess-up the time, will follow via IRC
12:30:06 [steph]
yes raphael
12:30:34 [steph]
typically the need for community radio to serve has a local hub
12:30:50 [steph]
s/need/need of an isp license/
12:30:58 [steph]
s/has/as/
12:31:38 [kiwanja]
q?
12:32:22 [steph]
ken: impressive evolution in the domain since Sao paulo
12:32:29 [steph]
ken: impressive discussions
12:32:37 [Raphael]
q+
12:32:50 [Arun]
q+
12:32:51 [steph]
ken: ws was a good opportunity and a momentum created
12:34:25 [steph]
raphael: one world asia, e-agriculture.org 1200 farmers in india coverd by lifeline
12:34:38 [steph]
(name of the system) bt, cisco involved
12:34:39 [kiwanja]
steph: good summary of workshop, and evolution since Bangalore/Sao Paulo
12:35:22 [steph]
s/120/120000/
12:35:39 [steph]
raphael: interesting to learn from those
12:35:55 [steph]
strike by the numbers
12:36:06 [steph]
mw4d ig can serve for information sharing
12:36:06 [kiwanja]
arun/raphael: discussion around the agriculture discussion, and a project in India reaching 100,000 farmers
12:36:40 [steph]
raphael: new participant for the group ?
12:40:07 [kiwanja]
q
12:40:10 [kiwanja]
q+
12:40:35 [steph]
ack raphael
12:40:37 [steph]
ack arun
12:40:41 [steph]
ack kiwanja
12:40:54 [steph]
ken: enlighting agriculture and m-banking
12:41:14 [steph]
most tension between top-down approach vs grassroot approach
12:41:30 [steph]
internatoinal consortium vs local people in hte groupnd
12:41:53 [steph]
ken: all systems competing, not open data
12:42:19 [steph]
not sure how to move from pilot to big scale
12:42:45 [steph]
raphael: subject for the wiki: competing solution is interesting to discuss
12:43:01 [steph]
better R&D discussion
12:43:19 [steph]
good to replciate to benefit more people
12:43:42 [steph]
raphael: considered esoko for my liberia project
12:43:54 [kiwanja]
q+
12:44:05 [steph]
but was reluctant to make a solution not coming from liberian
12:44:17 [steph]
but needing to pay yearly
12:44:43 [steph]
focusing on one module only might be enough
12:45:47 [steph]
lots of issues such as electricity
12:46:02 [steph]
importance ofr server to be up
12:46:45 [steph]
stephane: importance of local ownership is very important
12:46:52 [steph]
ken: issue of replicability
12:47:01 [steph]
some things are replicable some are not
12:47:26 [steph]
impossible for people to replicable nokia lifetools or esoko for instnce at local level
12:48:30 [Raphael]
q+
12:48:35 [steph]
ack kiwanja
12:48:37 [steph]
ack raphael
12:49:17 [steph]
raphael: unicef news ?
12:50:31 [steph]
stephane: they were invited, but no time for them ot attend
12:51:25 [steph]
ken: rapidsms and frontline are not exactly similar. they are pushing rapidsms in unicef projects
12:51:46 [steph]
focused on deploying their solutions,
12:52:01 [steph]
not aware of anybody else than unicef to use their tools
12:52:13 [steph]
not focusing on replicability by others
12:53:31 [Arun]
q+
12:54:09 [steph]
ack Arun
12:55:44 [Raphael]
+1
12:55:46 [kiwanja]
q?
12:57:53 [kiwanja]
q+
12:58:37 [kiwanja]
steph: thoughts around a workshop promoting/evaluating mobile tools
12:59:16 [kiwanja]
steph: challenges in regulation and other tech adoption (fibre, etc) which we have little control over
12:59:46 [kiwanja]
steph: discussing latest news on wiki - parts that need work, expansion, etc.
13:00:38 [steph]
ken: what is the audience ?
13:01:12 [steph]
providing practical help
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what people could actually do today
13:02:37 [Raphael]
q+
13:02:51 [kiwanja]
q+
13:05:33 [steph]
raphael: sorting application based on criteria such as accessbility, replicability,...
13:05:59 [kiwanja]
q-
13:05:59 [steph]
ken: tactical tech doing similar things, partnership possible
13:06:59 [steph]
action: steph to come with a document structure and summary of each section
13:08:06 [steph]
Topic: next meeting
13:08:20 [steph]
Steph: next meeting == doha ictd2009
13:08:27 [steph]
i propose May 11 (may 4 impossible for me)
13:09:01 [Zakim]
-ken
13:09:02 [Zakim]
-steph
13:09:02 [Zakim]
-lauri
13:09:04 [Zakim]
- +41.22.730.aacc
13:09:10 [steph]
rrsagent, make minutes
13:09:10 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-minutes.html steph
13:09:25 [steph]
zakim, make log public
13:09:25 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'make log public', steph
13:09:31 [steph]
rrsagent, make log public
13:09:36 [steph]
rrsagent, make minutes
13:09:36 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-minutes.html steph
13:16:56 [Zakim]
-arun
13:16:58 [Zakim]
UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +91.11.41.29.aaaa, steph, ken, +035850558aabb, lauri, arun, +41.22.730.aacc