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11:56:19 <steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
11:56:19 <Zakim> ok, steph, I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM already started
11:56:38 <steph> Meeting: MW4D IG bi-monthly meeting
11:56:43 <steph> Chair: Stephane
11:57:11 <steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2009Apr/0002.html
11:57:20 <steph> zakim, code ?
11:57:20 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
11:57:45 <Zakim> +steph
11:57:56 <steph> Present:Stephane
11:58:14 <steph> Present+Arun
12:03:57 <Zakim> +??P2
12:04:19 <steph> zakim, ??p2 is ken
12:04:19 <Zakim> +ken; got it
12:05:24 <Zakim> + +035850558aabb
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12:05:33 <steph> zakim, aabb is lauri
12:05:33 <Zakim> +lauri; got it
12:08:04 <steph> zakim, who is here ?
12:08:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see +91.11.41.29.aaaa, steph, ken, lauri
12:08:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph, Arun
12:08:45 <steph> zakim, aaaa is arun ?
12:08:45 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, steph.
12:08:54 <steph> zakim, aaaa is arun 
12:08:54 <Zakim> +arun; got it
12:09:31 <steph> zakim, who is here ?
12:09:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see arun, steph, ken, lauri
12:09:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph, Arun
12:14:27 <steph> Topic: approval of last meeting minutes
12:14:31 <steph> approved
12:14:44 <steph> Topic: Maputo Workshop summary
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12:24:27 <Zakim> + +41.22.730.aacc
12:24:44 <steph> present+Raphael
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12:27:53 <Raphael> Was there any example of blocking regulations?
12:28:23 <nicolas> hi all, sorry mess-up the time, will follow via IRC
12:30:06 <steph> yes raphael
12:30:34 <steph> typically the need for community radio to serve has a local hub 
12:30:50 <steph> s/need/need of an isp license/
12:30:58 <steph> s/has/as/
12:31:38 <kiwanja> q?
12:32:22 <steph> ken: impressive evolution in the domain since Sao paulo
12:32:29 <steph> ken: impressive discussions
12:32:37 <Raphael> q+
12:32:50 <Arun> q+
12:32:51 <steph> ken: ws was a good opportunity and a momentum created
12:34:25 <steph> raphael: one world asia, e-agriculture.org 1200 farmers in india coverd by lifeline
12:34:38 <steph> (name of the system) bt, cisco involved
12:34:39 <kiwanja> steph: good summary of workshop, and evolution since Bangalore/Sao Paulo
12:35:22 <steph> s/120/120000/
12:35:39 <steph> raphael: interesting to learn from those
12:35:55 <steph> strike by the numbers
12:36:06 <steph> mw4d ig can serve for information sharing
12:36:06 <kiwanja> arun/raphael: discussion around the agriculture discussion, and a project in India reaching 100,000 farmers
12:36:40 <steph> raphael: new participant for the group ?
12:40:07 <kiwanja> q
12:40:10 <kiwanja> q+
12:40:35 <steph> ack raphael
12:40:37 <steph> ack arun
12:40:41 <steph> ack kiwanja
12:40:54 <steph> ken: enlighting agriculture and m-banking 
12:41:14 <steph> most tension between top-down approach vs grassroot approach 
12:41:30 <steph> internatoinal consortium vs local people in hte groupnd
12:41:53 <steph> ken: all systems competing, not open data
12:42:19 <steph> not sure how to move from pilot to big scale
12:42:45 <steph> raphael: subject for the wiki: competing solution is interesting to discuss
12:43:01 <steph> better R&D discussion
12:43:19 <steph> good to replciate to benefit more people
12:43:42 <steph> raphael: considered esoko for my liberia project
12:43:54 <kiwanja> q+
12:44:05 <steph> but was reluctant to make a solution not coming from liberian
12:44:17 <steph> but needing to pay yearly
12:44:43 <steph> focusing on one module only might be enough
12:45:47 <steph> lots of issues such as electricity
12:46:02 <steph> importance ofr server to be up
12:46:45 <steph> stephane: importance of local ownership is very important
12:46:52 <steph> ken: issue of replicability
12:47:01 <steph> some things are replicable some are not
12:47:26 <steph> impossible for people to replicable nokia lifetools or esoko for instnce at local level
12:48:30 <Raphael> q+
12:48:35 <steph> ack kiwanja
12:48:37 <steph> ack raphael
12:49:17 <steph> raphael: unicef news ?
12:50:31 <steph> stephane: they were invited, but no time for them ot attend
12:51:25 <steph> ken: rapidsms and frontline are not exactly similar. they are pushing rapidsms in unicef projects
12:51:46 <steph> focused on deploying their solutions,
12:52:01 <steph> not aware of anybody else than unicef to use their tools
12:52:13 <steph> not focusing on replicability by others
12:53:31 <Arun> q+
12:54:09 <steph> ack Arun
12:55:44 <Raphael> +1
12:55:46 <kiwanja> q?
12:57:53 <kiwanja> q+
12:58:37 <kiwanja> steph: thoughts around a workshop promoting/evaluating mobile tools
12:59:16 <kiwanja> steph: challenges in regulation and other tech adoption (fibre, etc) which we have little control over
12:59:46 <kiwanja> steph: discussing latest news on wiki - parts that need work, expansion, etc.
13:00:38 <steph> ken: what is the audience  ?
13:01:12 <steph> providing practical help
13:01:19 <steph> what people could actually do today
13:02:37 <Raphael> q+
13:02:51 <kiwanja> q+
13:05:33 <steph> raphael: sorting application based on criteria such as accessbility, replicability,... 
13:05:59 <kiwanja> q-
13:05:59 <steph> ken: tactical tech doing similar things, partnership possible
13:06:59 <steph> action: steph to come with a document structure and summary of each section
13:08:06 <steph> Topic: next meeting
13:08:20 <steph> Steph: next meeting == doha ictd2009
13:08:27 <steph> i propose May 11 (may 4 impossible for me)
13:09:01 <Zakim> -ken
13:09:02 <Zakim> -steph
13:09:02 <Zakim> -lauri
13:09:04 <Zakim> - +41.22.730.aacc
13:09:10 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
13:09:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-minutes.html steph
13:09:25 <steph> zakim, make log public
13:09:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make log public', steph
13:09:31 <steph> rrsagent, make log public
13:09:36 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
13:09:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/06-mw4d-minutes.html steph
13:16:56 <Zakim> -arun
13:16:58 <Zakim> UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
13:16:59 <Zakim> Attendees were +91.11.41.29.aaaa, steph, ken, +035850558aabb, lauri, arun, +41.22.730.aacc