20:01:20 RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag 20:01:20 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc 20:01:24 rrsagent, make log world 20:01:27 zakim, +1.415.536.aaaa is Sofia_Celic 20:01:27 +Sofia_Celic; got it 20:01:31 zakim, who's on the phone? 20:01:31 On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Cooper 20:01:54 +Bruce_Bailey 20:02:14 +??P9 20:02:21 zakim, ??P9 is Ben_Caldwell 20:02:21 +Ben_Caldwell; got it 20:03:32 +Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:04:48 David_MacDonald has joined #wai-wcag 20:05:28 Andi has joined #wai-wcag 20:06:55 -Bruce_Bailey 20:08:01 zakim, who is on the phone? 20:08:01 On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Cooper, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid 20:09:23 + +1.617.219.aabb 20:10:33 +Bruce_Bailey 20:10:53 +[Microsoft] 20:15:07 zakim, [Microsoft] is Cynthia_Shelly 20:15:07 +Cynthia_Shelly; got it 20:16:20 awk has joined #wai-wcag 20:16:58 scribe: awk 20:18:01 +??P13 20:18:04 ITEM: 6. Specifying borders and layout in CSS to delineate areas of a Web page ... 20:18:51 C23: Specifying text and background colors of secondary content such as banners, features and navigation in CSS while not specifying text and background colors of the main content 20:19:17 RESOLUTION: Technique already included. 20:19:31 ITEM: 7. Specifying text and background colors of secondary content such as banners, features ... 20:19:36 RESOLUTION: Technique already included. 20:19:50 ITEM: 8. Avoiding confusion in navigation 20:21:40 ACTION: write a response to submitter 20:21:40 Sorry, couldn't find user - write 20:21:45 -Bruce_Bailey 20:22:31 ACTION: David to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation"\ 20:22:31 Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David 20:22:31 Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dmacdona, dtodd2) 20:23:00 ACTION: David_MacDonald to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation" 20:23:00 Sorry, couldn't find user - David_MacDonald 20:23:13 +Bruce_Bailey 20:23:30 ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation" 20:23:30 Created ACTION-12 - Write a response to submitter for issue \"Avoiding confusion in navigation\" [on David MacDonald - due 2009-04-02]. 20:23:55 drop action 1 20:24:03 rrsagent, drop action 1 20:24:05 rrsagent, drop action 2 20:24:07 rrsagent, drop action 3 20:25:16 ITEM: 9. Reducing user errors 20:26:52 ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for "reducing user errors" 20:26:52 Created ACTION-13 - Write a response to submitter for \"reducing user errors\" [on David MacDonald - due 2009-04-02]. 20:28:20 ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter "Making the functionality of content predictable" 20:28:20 Created ACTION-14 - Write a response to submitter \"Making the functionality of content predictable\" [on David MacDonald - due 2009-04-02]. 20:28:57 ITEM: 11. Using semantic markup whenever color cues are used 20:31:16 ACTION: Ben to add "Screen Readers lack emphasis" - http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=41 as a related resource to G138 20:31:16 Created ACTION-15 - Add \"Screen Readers lack emphasis\" - http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=41 as a related resource to G138 [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02]. 20:32:37 RESOLUTION: respond to submitter that this is covered under g138 20:32:48 ITEM: 12. Failure due to omitting labels for form controls for item selection or text input 20:35:37 RESOLUTION: Respond to submitter that this issue covered by f68 20:36:04 ITEM: Send a confirmation to the user 20:37:47 RESOLUTION: Add to extensive list of undrafted techniques. 20:38:33 ACTION: Loretta to draft advisory technique for "send a confirmation to the user" 20:38:33 Created ACTION-16 - Draft advisory technique for \"send a confirmation to the user\" [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2009-04-02]. 20:40:46 ITEM: Linking to the form element from the error text 20:42:07 -Bruce_Bailey 20:44:42 +Bruce_Bailey 20:46:59 -Bruce_Bailey 20:47:45 ACTION: reply to submitter that this is already covered by G139 20:47:45 Sorry, couldn't find user - reply 20:48:03 RESOLUTION: reply to submitter that this is already covered by G139 20:48:28 rrsagent, drop action 9 20:48:56 ACTION: Ben to remove "Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)" 20:48:56 Created ACTION-17 - Remove \"Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)\" [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02]. 20:48:56 +Bruce_Bailey 20:49:45 ITEM: Provide metadata about the delivery unit 20:51:51 ACTION: loretta to draft response to "provide metadata about the delivery unit". 20:51:51 Created ACTION-18 - Draft response to \"provide metadata about the delivery unit\". [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2009-04-02]. 20:53:28 http://www.eramp.com/s_wcag_new_techniques.htm#Aug04 20:58:14 Christophe has joined #wai-wcag 21:00:01 + +34.92.202.aacc 21:00:16 zakim, +34.92.202.aacc is Christophe_Strobbe 21:00:17 +Christophe_Strobbe; got it 21:01:59 -Bruce_Bailey 21:04:27 +Bruce_Bailey 21:06:29 ACTION: cynthia to submit harsh language speaking against using image replacement techniques and encouraging the use of real text 21:06:29 Created ACTION-19 - Submit harsh language speaking against using image replacement techniques and encouraging the use of real text [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2009-04-02]. 21:08:09 ITEM: Popup links with minimal script within markup 21:12:45 RESOLUTION: don't include technique. 21:13:44 ACTION: Loretta to reply to popup link technique submitter 21:13:44 Created ACTION-20 - Reply to popup link technique submitter [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2009-04-02]. 21:14:07 ITEM: Use correct grammar and spelling 21:18:20 or GL 2.4 advisory? 21:22:36 RESOLUTION: do not include as technique 21:24:22 ITEM: Highlight search terms 21:24:25 ACTION: Ben to include "Highlight search terms" as an advisory under guideline 2.4. 21:24:25 Created ACTION-21 - Include \"Highlight search terms\" as an advisory under guideline 2.4. [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02]. 21:24:53 - +1.617.219.aabb 21:24:58 scribe: Ben 21:26:44 Topic: Use sounds to focus user's attention 21:27:15 RESOLUTION: make "Use sounds to focus user's attention" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1 21:27:42 ACTION: Ben to add "Use sounds to focus user's attention" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1 21:27:42 Created ACTION-22 - Add \"Use sounds to focus user's attention\" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1 [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02]. 21:27:50 -Andi_Snow_Weaver 21:28:40 Topic: Hide optional form fields 21:30:29 RESOLUTION: include "Hide optional form fields" as advisory under guideline 3.3" 21:30:39 Topic: Blinking via JavaScript and CSS 21:32:28 ACTION: Christophe to draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/2004Sep/0000.html Blinking via JavaScript and CSS as sufficient technique for 2.2.2 21:32:28 Created ACTION-23 - Draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/2004Sep/0000.html Blinking via JavaScript and CSS as sufficient technique for 2.2.2 [on Christophe Strobbe - due 2009-04-02]. 21:32:40 Topic: Image-based headings 21:33:00 RESOLUTION: not accepted 21:33:22 -??P13 21:34:14 discuss ARIA Last Call next week, reminder to all to review 21:34:17 -Sofia_Celic 21:34:19 -Alex_Li 21:34:21 -Cynthia_Shelly 21:34:21 -Bruce_Bailey 21:34:23 -Cooper 21:34:25 -David_MacDonald 21:34:27 -Ben_Caldwell 21:34:28 -Christophe_Strobbe 21:34:28 -Loretta_Guarino_Reid 21:34:29 WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended 21:34:30 Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, +1.617.219.aabb, Cynthia_Shelly, 21:34:33 ... Christophe_Strobbe 22:19:45 Judy has joined #wai-wcag 22:50:26 Ben has left #wai-wcag 22:53:16 Ben_ has joined #wai-wcag 22:57:49 zakim, bye 22:57:49 Zakim has left #wai-wcag 22:57:51 rrsagent, bye 22:57:51 I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-actions.rdf : 22:57:51 ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation" [4] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-23-30 22:57:51 ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for "reducing user errors" [5] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-26-52 22:57:51 ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter "Making the functionality of content predictable" [6] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-28-20 22:57:51 ACTION: Ben to add "Screen Readers lack emphasis" - http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=41 as a related resource to G138 [7] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-31-16 22:57:51 ACTION: Loretta to draft advisory technique for "send a confirmation to the user" [8] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-38-33 22:57:51 ACTION: Ben to remove "Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)" [10] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-48-56 22:57:51 ACTION: loretta to draft response to "provide metadata about the delivery unit". [11] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-51-51 22:57:51 ACTION: cynthia to submit harsh language speaking against using image replacement techniques and encouraging the use of real text [12] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-06-29 22:57:51 ACTION: Loretta to reply to popup link technique submitter [13] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-13-44 22:57:51 ACTION: Ben to include "Highlight search terms" as an advisory under guideline 2.4. [14] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-24-25 22:57:51 ACTION: Ben to add "Use sounds to focus user's attention" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1 [15] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-27-42 22:57:51 ACTION: Christophe to draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/2004Sep/0000.html Blinking via JavaScript and CSS as sufficient technique for 2.2.2 [16] 22:57:51 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-32-28