IRC log of wai-wcag on 2009-03-26

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20:01:20 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
20:01:20 [RRSAgent]: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc
20:01:24 [MichaelC]: rrsagent, make log world
20:01:27 [Sofia]: zakim, +1.415.536.aaaa is Sofia_Celic
20:01:27 [Zakim]: +Sofia_Celic; got it
20:01:31 [MichaelC]: zakim, who's on the phone?
20:01:31 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Cooper
20:01:54 [Zakim]: +Bruce_Bailey
20:02:14 [Zakim]: +??P9
20:02:21 [Ben]: zakim, ??P9 is Ben_Caldwell
20:02:21 [Zakim]: +Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:03:32 [Zakim]: +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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20:06:55 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
20:08:01 [Loretta]: zakim, who is on the phone?
20:08:01 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Andi_Snow_Weaver, Alex_Li, David_MacDonald, Sofia_Celic, Cooper, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:09:23 [Zakim]: + +1.617.219.aabb
20:10:33 [Zakim]: +Bruce_Bailey
20:10:53 [Zakim]: +[Microsoft]
20:15:07 [Ben]: zakim, [Microsoft] is Cynthia_Shelly
20:15:07 [Zakim]: +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:16:20 [awk]: awk has joined #wai-wcag
20:16:58 [MichaelC]: scribe: awk
20:18:01 [Zakim]: +??P13
20:18:04 [awk]: ITEM: 6. Specifying borders and layout in CSS to delineate areas of a Web page ...
20:18:51 [Loretta]: C23: Specifying text and background colors of secondary content such as banners, features and navigation in CSS while not specifying text and background colors of the main content
20:19:17 [awk]: RESOLUTION: Technique already included.
20:19:31 [awk]: ITEM: 7. Specifying text and background colors of secondary content such as banners, features ...
20:19:36 [awk]: RESOLUTION: Technique already included.
20:19:50 [awk]: ITEM: 8. Avoiding confusion in navigation
20:21:40 [awk]: ACTION: write a response to submitter
20:21:40 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - write
20:21:45 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
20:22:31 [awk]: ACTION: David to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation"\
20:22:31 [trackbot]: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David
20:22:31 [trackbot]: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dmacdona, dtodd2)
20:23:00 [awk]: ACTION: David_MacDonald to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation"
20:23:00 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - David_MacDonald
20:23:13 [Zakim]: +Bruce_Bailey
20:23:30 [awk]: ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation"
20:23:30 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-12 - Write a response to submitter for issue \"Avoiding confusion in navigation\" [on David MacDonald - due 2009-04-02].
20:23:55 [MichaelC]: drop action 1
20:24:03 [MichaelC]: rrsagent, drop action 1
20:24:05 [MichaelC]: rrsagent, drop action 2
20:24:07 [MichaelC]: rrsagent, drop action 3
20:25:16 [awk]: ITEM: 9. Reducing user errors
20:26:52 [awk]: ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for "reducing user errors"
20:26:52 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-13 - Write a response to submitter for \"reducing user errors\" [on David MacDonald - due 2009-04-02].
20:28:20 [awk]: ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter "Making the functionality of content predictable"
20:28:20 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-14 - Write a response to submitter \"Making the functionality of content predictable\" [on David MacDonald - due 2009-04-02].
20:28:57 [awk]: ITEM: 11. Using semantic markup whenever color cues are used
20:31:16 [Ben]: ACTION: Ben to add "Screen Readers lack emphasis" - http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=41 as a related resource to G138
20:31:16 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-15 - Add \"Screen Readers lack emphasis\" - http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=41 as a related resource to G138 [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02].
20:32:37 [awk]: RESOLUTION: respond to submitter that this is covered under g138
20:32:48 [awk]: ITEM: 12. Failure due to omitting labels for form controls for item selection or text input
20:35:37 [awk]: RESOLUTION: Respond to submitter that this issue covered by f68
20:36:04 [awk]: ITEM: Send a confirmation to the user
20:37:47 [awk]: RESOLUTION: Add to extensive list of undrafted techniques.
20:38:33 [awk]: ACTION: Loretta to draft advisory technique for "send a confirmation to the user"
20:38:33 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-16 - Draft advisory technique for \"send a confirmation to the user\" [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2009-04-02].
20:40:46 [awk]: ITEM: Linking to the form element from the error text
20:42:07 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
20:44:42 [Zakim]: +Bruce_Bailey
20:46:59 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
20:47:45 [awk]: ACTION: reply to submitter that this is already covered by G139
20:47:45 [trackbot]: Sorry, couldn't find user - reply
20:48:03 [awk]: RESOLUTION: reply to submitter that this is already covered by G139
20:48:28 [awk]: rrsagent, drop action 9
20:48:56 [Ben]: ACTION: Ben to remove "Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)"
20:48:56 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-17 - Remove \"Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)\" [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02].
20:48:56 [Zakim]: +Bruce_Bailey
20:49:45 [awk]: ITEM: Provide metadata about the delivery unit
20:51:51 [awk]: ACTION: loretta to draft response to "provide metadata about the delivery unit".
20:51:51 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-18 - Draft response to \"provide metadata about the delivery unit\". [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2009-04-02].
20:53:28 [Loretta]: http://www.eramp.com/s_wcag_new_techniques.htm#Aug04
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21:00:01 [Zakim]: + +34.92.202.aacc
21:00:16 [Christophe]: zakim, +34.92.202.aacc is Christophe_Strobbe
21:00:17 [Zakim]: +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
21:01:59 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
21:04:27 [Zakim]: +Bruce_Bailey
21:06:29 [awk]: ACTION: cynthia to submit harsh language speaking against using image replacement techniques and encouraging the use of real text
21:06:29 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-19 - Submit harsh language speaking against using image replacement techniques and encouraging the use of real text [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2009-04-02].
21:08:09 [awk]: ITEM: Popup links with minimal script within markup
21:12:45 [awk]: RESOLUTION: don't include technique.
21:13:44 [awk]: ACTION: Loretta to reply to popup link technique submitter
21:13:44 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-20 - Reply to popup link technique submitter [on Loretta Guarino Reid - due 2009-04-02].
21:14:07 [awk]: ITEM: Use correct grammar and spelling
21:18:20 [Ben]: or GL 2.4 advisory?
21:22:36 [awk]: RESOLUTION: do not include as technique
21:24:22 [awk]: ITEM: Highlight search terms
21:24:25 [Ben]: ACTION: Ben to include "Highlight search terms" as an advisory under guideline 2.4.
21:24:25 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-21 - Include \"Highlight search terms\" as an advisory under guideline 2.4. [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02].
21:24:53 [Zakim]: - +1.617.219.aabb
21:24:58 [Ben]: scribe: Ben
21:26:44 [Ben]: Topic: Use sounds to focus user's attention
21:27:15 [Ben]: RESOLUTION: make "Use sounds to focus user's attention" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1
21:27:42 [Ben]: ACTION: Ben to add "Use sounds to focus user's attention" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1
21:27:42 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-22 - Add \"Use sounds to focus user's attention\" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1 [on Ben Caldwell - due 2009-04-02].
21:27:50 [Zakim]: -Andi_Snow_Weaver
21:28:40 [Ben]: Topic: Hide optional form fields
21:30:29 [Ben]: RESOLUTION: include "Hide optional form fields" as advisory under guideline 3.3"
21:30:39 [Ben]: Topic: Blinking via JavaScript and CSS
21:32:28 [Ben]: ACTION: Christophe to draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/2004Sep/0000.html Blinking via JavaScript and CSS as sufficient technique for 2.2.2
21:32:28 [trackbot]: Created ACTION-23 - Draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/2004Sep/0000.html Blinking via JavaScript and CSS as sufficient technique for 2.2.2 [on Christophe Strobbe - due 2009-04-02].
21:32:40 [Ben]: Topic: Image-based headings
21:33:00 [Ben]: RESOLUTION: not accepted
21:33:22 [Zakim]: -??P13
21:34:14 [Ben]: discuss ARIA Last Call next week, reminder to all to review
21:34:17 [Zakim]: -Sofia_Celic
21:34:19 [Zakim]: -Alex_Li
21:34:21 [Zakim]: -Cynthia_Shelly
21:34:21 [Zakim]: -Bruce_Bailey
21:34:23 [Zakim]: -Cooper
21:34:25 [Zakim]: -David_MacDonald
21:34:27 [Zakim]: -Ben_Caldwell
21:34:28 [Zakim]: -Christophe_Strobbe
21:34:28 [Zakim]: -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:34:29 [Zakim]: WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
21:34:30 [Zakim]: Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Andi_Snow_Weaver, David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Cooper, Sofia_Celic, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, +1.617.219.aabb, Cynthia_Shelly,
21:34:33 [Zakim]: ... Christophe_Strobbe
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22:57:49 [MichaelC]: zakim, bye
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22:57:51 [MichaelC]: rrsagent, bye
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for issue "Avoiding confusion in navigation" [4]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-23-30
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter for "reducing user errors" [5]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-26-52
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: dmacdona to write a response to submitter "Making the functionality of content predictable" [6]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-28-20
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to add "Screen Readers lack emphasis" - http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=41 as a related resource to G138 [7]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-31-16
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Loretta to draft advisory technique for "send a confirmation to the user" [8]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-38-33
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to remove "Assisting the user in making corrections by providing links to each error (future link)" [10]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-48-56
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: loretta to draft response to "provide metadata about the delivery unit". [11]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-51-51
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: cynthia to submit harsh language speaking against using image replacement techniques and encouraging the use of real text [12]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-06-29
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Loretta to reply to popup link technique submitter [13]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-13-44
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to include "Highlight search terms" as an advisory under guideline 2.4. [14]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-24-25
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ben to add "Use sounds to focus user's attention" an advisory technique for 2.2.1 and 3.3.1 [15]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-27-42
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Christophe to draft http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag2-techs/2004Sep/0000.html Blinking via JavaScript and CSS as sufficient technique for 2.2.2 [16]
22:57:51 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-32-28