IRC log of sml on 2009-03-16
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- zakim, this will be sml
- 16:26:26 [Zakim]
- ok, ht; I see XML_SMLWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- ht has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0019.html
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- XML_SMLWG()12:30PM has now started
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- + +1.603.823.aaaa
- 16:30:18 [ht]
- zakim, please call ht-781
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- ok, ht; the call is being made
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- +Ht
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- +[Microsoft]
- 16:31:10 [lencharest]
- zakim, Microsoft is me
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- +lencharest; got it
- 16:31:17 [Kirk]
- scribenick: Kirk
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- scribe: Kirk Wilson
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- chair: John Arwe
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- Regrets: Kumar
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- Meeting: W3C SML Teleconference
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- zakim, who's on the phone?
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- On the phone I see +1.603.823.aaaa, Ht, lencharest
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- zakim, aaaa is me
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- + +1.845.433.aabb
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- zakim, who's on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Kirk, Ht, lencharest, +1.845.433.aabb
- 16:34:51 [johnarwe_]
- zakim, aabb is me
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- +johnarwe_; got it
- 16:36:25 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: Approval of minutes 3/9
- 16:37:03 [johnarwe_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/att-0018/20090309-sml-minutes.html (different value vs agenda!)
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- RESOLUTION: Approved without objection.
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- TOPIC: Notes from CG
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- John: Nothing new from this group.
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- TOPIC: Action Items.
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- John: Zero opened items.
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- Henry: RE Action 210. Waiting for WG review before closing it.
- 16:41:04 [johnarwe_]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/actions/210
- 16:41:16 [Kirk]
- John: Henry needs to add appropriate URLs for review.
- 16:41:22 [ht]
- You could look at e.g. http://www.w3.org/2008/03/sml.html
- 16:41:34 [Kirk]
- WG should review these next week.
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- s/there/these for
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- TOPIC: Open Issues
- 16:42:31 [johnarwe_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0015.html
- 16:42:54 [johnarwe_]
- preceding is URI of Kumar's email soliciting Henry's feedback on specific items
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- Henry: Will answer the email on this issue.
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- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6480
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- TOPIC: Status of Response to Recommendation
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- Henry: eight Responses
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- Henry: There is one objection: Update references to XML and XML Base.
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- +Sandy
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- Henry: Reference section contains a dated reference that is not current version of these specs.
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- Henry: There are no conformance issues between XML Base 1st and 2nd editions.
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- Len: Does this objection block acceptance? Otherwise, it does not seem to be critical.
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- Sandy: Needs time to think of the consequences of upgrading.
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- scribe: Kirk_
- 17:00:46 [lencharest]
- Link to XML 5th ed. with changes from 4th ed. highlighted: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/REC-xml-20081126-review.html
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- John: Henry to investigate implications.
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- Summary
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- -Sandy
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- 1. Sandy to investigate impact on Xerces of going with XML 5th ED.
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- 2. Henry to investage implications of alternative approaches/check with objector.
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- 3. Microsoft: to check what edition of XML their SML development is based on: what trajectory.
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- TOPIC: EPR Note
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- No new comments submitted on this.
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- TOPIC: XLink Note
- 17:04:48 [johnarwe_]
- PDF http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0015.html
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- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=658
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- John: Acknowledges that Ginny may have comments on style.
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- Len: Comment 1--common naming convention of SML reference schemes. Call this is SML XLink Scheme.
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- ....EPR note should say EPR-based Reference Scheme for SML.
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- 4.3.1 SML URI Reference Scheme
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- John: We should defer until Ginny can attend.
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- preceding = on changing title of xlink note
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- Comments 2 & 3--following EPR Note.
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- RESOLUTION: Acceptance of these without objection.
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- Comment 4 is the "same" thing again.
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- John: Any objection ot replace words with hyperlinks as per comments 2, 3, & 4.
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- RESOLUTION: Passed with no objections. Objections should be raised at particular points.
- 17:12:21 [johnarwe_]
- s/ot/to/
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- Comment 5--Merge Note with paragraph
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- RESOLUTION: Consensus amongst those present for the merged form for using "Note".
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- ...In general, there is no objection to letting the spec editors work this out with note editors.
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- Comment 6--This is quoted from XLink spec. No objection to accepting the suggested additional wording for clarity.
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- Comment 7--no objection; accepted.
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- Comment 8--Len's suggestion: take each numbered item and each one a subheading and number the subbullets.
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- John: Last week to expressed concern about making the notes look different from the spec.
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- ...How strongly do we want to be parallel to the SML spec.
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- Kirk: Prefers to keep parallel for readability
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- John: Suggests the Len get together with the spec editors to resolve this issue.
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- Comment 10--"follow" --> "matches" No objection.
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- Comment 11--add square brackets to designate a hyperlink on square bracket. No objection.
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- John: We should tell people to look through Style, and post notes to the issue. If no comments are posted, that will indicate acceptance of the Style change.
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- Comment 13--"schema of U"
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- HST: Would like "URI scheme"
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- John: Replace "schema" with "URI scheme" No objections.
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- Comment 15 & 16--Reword from SML spec
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- Henry: Wants to look at the text.
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- s/Reword/Rewording
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- John: SML does not define [base URI].
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- -Ht
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- Henry: We need to give thought where to get the definition of base URI for this note.
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- Adjournment: 1:32 ET
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/16-sml-minutes.html Kirk_
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- Attendees were +1.603.823.aaaa, Ht, lencharest, Kirk, +1.845.433.aabb, johnarwe_, Sandy
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