IRC log of sml on 2009-03-16

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16:26:26 [ht]
zakim, this will be sml
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ok, ht; I see XML_SMLWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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ht has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0019.html
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XML_SMLWG()12:30PM has now started
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+ +1.603.823.aaaa
16:30:18 [ht]
zakim, please call ht-781
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ok, ht; the call is being made
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+Ht
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+[Microsoft]
16:31:10 [lencharest]
zakim, Microsoft is me
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+lencharest; got it
16:31:17 [Kirk]
scribenick: Kirk
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scribe: Kirk Wilson
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chair: John Arwe
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Regrets: Kumar
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Meeting: W3C SML Teleconference
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zakim, who's on the phone?
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On the phone I see +1.603.823.aaaa, Ht, lencharest
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zakim, aaaa is me
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+ +1.845.433.aabb
16:34:07 [Kirk]
rrsagent, make log public
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zakim, who's on the phone?
16:34:46 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kirk, Ht, lencharest, +1.845.433.aabb
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zakim, aabb is me
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+johnarwe_; got it
16:36:25 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Approval of minutes 3/9
16:37:03 [johnarwe_]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/att-0018/20090309-sml-minutes.html (different value vs agenda!)
16:38:10 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: Approved without objection.
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TOPIC: Notes from CG
16:38:38 [Kirk]
John: Nothing new from this group.
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TOPIC: Action Items.
16:39:19 [Kirk]
John: Zero opened items.
16:40:41 [Kirk]
Henry: RE Action 210. Waiting for WG review before closing it.
16:41:04 [johnarwe_]
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/actions/210
16:41:16 [Kirk]
John: Henry needs to add appropriate URLs for review.
16:41:22 [ht]
You could look at e.g. http://www.w3.org/2008/03/sml.html
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WG should review these next week.
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s/there/these for
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TOPIC: Open Issues
16:42:31 [johnarwe_]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0015.html
16:42:54 [johnarwe_]
preceding is URI of Kumar's email soliciting Henry's feedback on specific items
16:43:28 [Kirk]
Henry: Will answer the email on this issue.
16:44:12 [Kirk]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6480
16:44:48 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Status of Response to Recommendation
16:45:00 [Kirk]
Henry: eight Responses
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Henry: There is one objection: Update references to XML and XML Base.
16:45:46 [Zakim]
+Sandy
16:47:19 [Kirk]
Henry: Reference section contains a dated reference that is not current version of these specs.
16:49:32 [Kirk]
Henry: There are no conformance issues between XML Base 1st and 2nd editions.
16:50:52 [Kirk]
Len: Does this objection block acceptance? Otherwise, it does not seem to be critical.
16:52:16 [Kirk]
Sandy: Needs time to think of the consequences of upgrading.
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scribe: Kirk_
17:00:46 [lencharest]
Link to XML 5th ed. with changes from 4th ed. highlighted: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/REC-xml-20081126-review.html
17:01:28 [Kirk_]
John: Henry to investigate implications.
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Summary
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-Sandy
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1. Sandy to investigate impact on Xerces of going with XML 5th ED.
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2. Henry to investage implications of alternative approaches/check with objector.
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3. Microsoft: to check what edition of XML their SML development is based on: what trajectory.
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TOPIC: EPR Note
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No new comments submitted on this.
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TOPIC: XLink Note
17:04:48 [johnarwe_]
PDF http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0015.html
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=658
17:07:38 [Kirk_]
John: Acknowledges that Ginny may have comments on style.
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Len: Comment 1--common naming convention of SML reference schemes. Call this is SML XLink Scheme.
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....EPR note should say EPR-based Reference Scheme for SML.
17:09:02 [johnarwe_]
4.3.1 SML URI Reference Scheme
17:10:40 [Kirk_]
John: We should defer until Ginny can attend.
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preceding = on changing title of xlink note
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Comments 2 & 3--following EPR Note.
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RESOLUTION: Acceptance of these without objection.
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Comment 4 is the "same" thing again.
17:11:53 [Kirk_]
John: Any objection ot replace words with hyperlinks as per comments 2, 3, & 4.
17:12:17 [Kirk_]
RESOLUTION: Passed with no objections. Objections should be raised at particular points.
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s/ot/to/
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Comment 5--Merge Note with paragraph
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RESOLUTION: Consensus amongst those present for the merged form for using "Note".
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...In general, there is no objection to letting the spec editors work this out with note editors.
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Comment 6--This is quoted from XLink spec. No objection to accepting the suggested additional wording for clarity.
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Comment 7--no objection; accepted.
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Comment 8--Len's suggestion: take each numbered item and each one a subheading and number the subbullets.
17:19:37 [Kirk_]
John: Last week to expressed concern about making the notes look different from the spec.
17:20:02 [Kirk_]
...How strongly do we want to be parallel to the SML spec.
17:20:55 [Kirk_]
Kirk: Prefers to keep parallel for readability
17:21:23 [Kirk_]
John: Suggests the Len get together with the spec editors to resolve this issue.
17:22:00 [Kirk_]
Comment 10--"follow" --> "matches" No objection.
17:22:45 [Kirk_]
Comment 11--add square brackets to designate a hyperlink on square bracket. No objection.
17:23:49 [Kirk_]
John: We should tell people to look through Style, and post notes to the issue. If no comments are posted, that will indicate acceptance of the Style change.
17:24:37 [Kirk_]
Comment 13--"schema of U"
17:25:32 [ht]
HST: Would like "URI scheme"
17:26:30 [Kirk_]
John: Replace "schema" with "URI scheme" No objections.
17:28:31 [Kirk_]
Comment 15 & 16--Reword from SML spec
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Henry: Wants to look at the text.
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s/Reword/Rewording
17:31:38 [Kirk_]
John: SML does not define [base URI].
17:32:10 [Zakim]
-Ht
17:32:23 [Kirk_]
Henry: We need to give thought where to get the definition of base URI for this note.
17:32:55 [Kirk_]
Adjournment: 1:32 ET
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/16-sml-minutes.html Kirk_
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-johnarwe_
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-lencharest
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-Kirk
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Attendees were +1.603.823.aaaa, Ht, lencharest, Kirk, +1.845.433.aabb, johnarwe_, Sandy
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