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16:26:26 <ht> zakim, this will be sml
16:26:26 <Zakim> ok, ht; I see XML_SMLWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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16:30:18 <ht> zakim, please call ht-781
16:30:19 <Zakim> ok, ht; the call is being made
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16:31:00 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:31:10 <lencharest> zakim, Microsoft is me
16:31:10 <Zakim> +lencharest; got it
16:31:17 <Kirk> scribenick: Kirk
16:31:27 <Kirk> scribe: Kirk Wilson
16:31:47 <Kirk> chair: John Arwe
16:32:00 <Kirk> Regrets: Kumar
16:32:23 <Kirk> Meeting: W3C SML Teleconference
16:32:48 <Kirk> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:32:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.603.823.aaaa, Ht, lencharest
16:33:01 <Kirk> zakim, aaaa is me
16:33:01 <Zakim> +Kirk; got it
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16:34:07 <Kirk> rrsagent, make log public
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16:34:46 <johnarwe_> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:34:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kirk, Ht, lencharest, +1.845.433.aabb
16:34:51 <johnarwe_> zakim, aabb is me
16:34:51 <Zakim> +johnarwe_; got it
16:36:25 <Kirk> TOPIC: Approval of minutes 3/9
16:37:03 <johnarwe_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/att-0018/20090309-sml-minutes.html (different value vs agenda!)
16:38:10 <Kirk> RESOLUTION: Approved without objection.
16:38:26 <Kirk> TOPIC: Notes from CG
16:38:38 <Kirk> John: Nothing new from this group.
16:38:55 <Kirk> TOPIC: Action Items.
16:39:19 <Kirk> John: Zero opened items.
16:40:41 <Kirk> Henry: RE Action 210.  Waiting for WG review before closing it.
16:41:04 <johnarwe_> http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/actions/210
16:41:16 <Kirk> John: Henry needs to add appropriate URLs for review.
16:41:22 <ht> You could look at e.g. http://www.w3.org/2008/03/sml.html
16:41:34 <Kirk> WG should review these next week.
16:41:48 <Kirk> s/there/these for
16:42:07 <Kirk> TOPIC: Open Issues
16:42:31 <johnarwe_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0015.html
16:42:54 <johnarwe_> preceding is URI of Kumar's email soliciting Henry's feedback on specific items
16:43:28 <Kirk> Henry:  Will answer the email on this issue. 
16:44:12 <Kirk> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6480
16:44:48 <Kirk> TOPIC: Status of Response to Recommendation
16:45:00 <Kirk> Henry: eight Responses
16:45:40 <Kirk> Henry: There is one objection: Update references to XML and XML Base.
16:45:46 <Zakim> +Sandy
16:47:19 <Kirk> Henry: Reference section contains a dated reference that is not current version of these specs.
16:49:32 <Kirk> Henry: There are no conformance issues between XML Base 1st and 2nd editions.
16:50:52 <Kirk> Len: Does this objection block acceptance?  Otherwise, it does not seem to be critical.
16:52:16 <Kirk> Sandy: Needs time to think of the consequences of upgrading.
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17:00:46 <lencharest> Link to XML 5th ed. with changes from 4th ed. highlighted: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/REC-xml-20081126-review.html
17:01:28 <Kirk_> John: Henry to investigate implications.
17:01:42 <Kirk_> Summary
17:02:06 <Zakim> -Sandy
17:02:40 <Kirk_> 1.  Sandy to investigate impact on Xerces of going with XML 5th ED.
17:03:15 <Kirk_> 2. Henry to investage implications of alternative approaches/check with objector.
17:03:52 <Kirk_> 3.  Microsoft: to check what edition of XML their SML development is based on: what trajectory.
17:04:15 <Kirk_> TOPIC: EPR Note
17:04:30 <Kirk_> No new comments submitted on this.
17:04:38 <Kirk_> TOPIC: XLink Note
17:04:48 <johnarwe_> PDF http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Mar/0015.html
17:05:49 <johnarwe_> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=658
17:07:38 <Kirk_> John: Acknowledges that Ginny may have comments on style.
17:08:32 <Kirk_> Len: Comment 1--common naming convention of SML reference schemes.  Call this is SML XLink Scheme.
17:08:55 <Kirk_> ....EPR note should say EPR-based Reference Scheme for SML.
17:09:02 <johnarwe_> 4.3.1 SML URI Reference Scheme
17:10:40 <Kirk_> John: We should defer until Ginny can attend.
17:10:59 <johnarwe_> preceding = on changing title of xlink note
17:11:03 <Kirk_> Comments 2 & 3--following EPR Note.
17:11:16 <Kirk_> RESOLUTION: Acceptance of these without objection.
17:11:33 <Kirk_> Comment 4 is the "same" thing again.
17:11:53 <Kirk_> John: Any objection ot replace words with hyperlinks as per comments 2, 3, & 4.
17:12:17 <Kirk_> RESOLUTION: Passed with no objections.  Objections should be raised at particular points.
17:12:21 <johnarwe_> s/ot/to/
17:13:17 <Kirk_> Comment 5--Merge Note with paragraph
17:13:40 <Kirk_> RESOLUTION: Consensus amongst those present for the merged form for using "Note".
17:14:36 <Kirk_> ...In general, there is no objection to letting the spec editors work this out with note editors.
17:16:41 <Kirk_> Comment 6--This is quoted from XLink spec.   No objection to accepting the suggested additional wording for clarity.
17:17:13 <Kirk_> Comment 7--no objection; accepted.
17:18:45 <Kirk_> Comment 8--Len's suggestion: take each numbered item and each one a subheading and number the subbullets.
17:19:37 <Kirk_> John: Last week to expressed concern about making the notes look different from the spec.
17:20:02 <Kirk_> ...How strongly do we want to be parallel to the SML spec.
17:20:55 <Kirk_> Kirk: Prefers to keep parallel for readability
17:21:23 <Kirk_> John: Suggests the Len get together with the spec editors to resolve this issue.
17:22:00 <Kirk_> Comment 10--"follow" --> "matches"  No objection.
17:22:45 <Kirk_> Comment 11--add square brackets to designate a hyperlink on square bracket.  No objection.
17:23:49 <Kirk_> John: We should tell people to look through Style, and post notes to the issue.  If no comments are posted, that will indicate acceptance of the Style change.
17:24:37 <Kirk_> Comment 13--"schema of U"
17:25:32 <ht> HST: Would like "URI scheme"
17:26:30 <Kirk_> John: Replace "schema" with "URI scheme"  No objections.
17:28:31 <Kirk_> Comment 15 & 16--Reword from SML spec
17:29:20 <Kirk_> Henry: Wants to look at the text.
17:29:32 <Kirk_> s/Reword/Rewording
17:31:38 <Kirk_> John: SML does not define [base URI].
17:32:10 <Zakim> -Ht
17:32:23 <Kirk_> Henry: We need to give thought where to get the definition of base URI for this note.
17:32:55 <Kirk_> Adjournment: 1:32 ET
17:33:17 <Kirk_> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:33:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/16-sml-minutes.html Kirk_
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