13:59:14 RRSAgent has joined #tt 13:59:14 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/13-tt-irc 13:59:16 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:59:16 Zakim has joined #tt 13:59:18 Zakim, this will be DFXP 13:59:18 ok, trackbot; I see IA_(DFXP)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute 13:59:19 Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 13:59:19 Date: 13 March 2009 14:00:50 IA_(DFXP)10:00AM has now started 14:00:51 +Plh 14:01:54 + +0154558aaaa 14:02:43 +??P21 14:05:00 + +41.22.717.aabb 14:11:03 Topic: Test results 14:11:23 Sean: I'm working on an implementation, called TimedTextPad 14:11:32 ... I cover all of the timing 14:11:55 ... Paragraph002 is incorrect now, since body is a par 14:12:11 ... so Timing and content are well covered 14:12:24 ... and Glenn covers those pretty well as well 14:12:29 ... issue is with Timing 14:12:40 ... three major grouping of functionalities 14:12:51 ... color: background, visibility, opcate, color 14:13:03 ... I pass all of those. Glenn does. Philippe as well 14:13:06 ... so we're fine 14:13:09 ... then fonts stuff 14:13:31 ... fonts is relatively easy to pass for me and should be straighforward 14:13:44 ... both Glenn and Philippe pass those 14:14:05 ... tests aren't very well organized 14:14:18 ... some of those tests need to be slightly reworked 14:14:34 ... the only one at is the blur raduis on text outline 14:14:46 ... Glenn and Philippe don't do 14:15:24 Philippe: willing to submit new tests for font family? 14:15:53 Sean: eventually, I'll figure out if every test is correct 14:16:19 ... some of the tests cannot be told if they work or not 14:16:41 ... biggest concern is writing mode and unicode bidi group 14:16:46 ... vertical text and right to left 14:17:08 so, we don't have that many feature that don't have two implementations 14:17:44 ... there are some stress tests we could provide 14:17:55 ... like lots of nested, multiple regions 14:18:38 ... ie testing the implementation rather than the spec 14:18:45 Philippe: would be nice to have 14:20:30 Sean: could put them into a separate bucket 14:21:37 ... we need the animation tests 14:21:51 ... and all the other 14:21:54 Philippe: will do 14:23:31 Sean: can you run Glen's implementation? 14:23:41 Philippe: not for the 27 unfortunately 14:24:36 Sean: I'll run tests on Glen then 14:25:15 David: what about the metadata test? 14:28:20 Sean: our implementations don't do anything with those 14:28:26 Philippe: at least, we don't crash :) 14:28:43 Sean: If I get around the rest, I might do something 14:29:33 David: we do something with them, when converting to our own XML format 14:30:20 ... the color code that we use is sophisticated 14:30:27 ... using scene details as well 14:31:19 ... I could send a pointer around, it's under license GPLv2 14:32:08 Sean: so, we're in a pretty good shape 14:32:24 ... paramaters: cell resolution? clock mode? 14:33:10 David: if you're dealing with region, it would be relatively easy 14:33:16 Sean: yes 14:34:06 Sean: framerate is fine, no sure with multipliers. but that basic arithmetic 14:37:06 Topic: Schedule 14:37:16 Sean: let's pick May 1. June 1 for end of last call 14:37:48 ... July 1 done with comments 14:37:53 ... PR by July 1 14:40:02 Philippe: that would be REC in August. not the best time for a press release 14:41:31 sean: press release last week of August or first week of september 14:44:12 Philippe: if Glenn doesn't show up by April 1, we can look into finding an alternate editor 14:45:10 David: there was two or three required features what the authoring system is required to support 14:46:38 Sean: I'll look at the features in appendix C 14:47:00 ... we should leave April for writing and testing implementations 14:48:49 ... for example. for blur radius, we need to have that text provisional. 14:51:51 Philippe: we should make it clear that everything needs to be implemented no later than July 1. Everything that it is not is out. 14:53:52 Topic: Next meeting 14:54:06 No meeting on March 20 14:54:09 -Plh 14:54:11 -??P21 14:54:12 - +41.22.717.aabb 14:54:15 - +0154558aaaa 14:54:16 IA_(DFXP)10:00AM has ended 14:54:17 Attendees were Plh, +0154558aaaa, +41.22.717.aabb 14:54:18 Next meeting is March 27 14:54:24 Regrets from plh 14:54:27 [adjourned] 14:54:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/13-tt-minutes.html plh 16:07:13 Zakim has left #tt