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Zakim, this will be DFXP

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Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 13 March 2009

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IA_(DFXP)10:00AM has now started

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Topic: Test results

14:11:23 [plh]

Sean: I'm working on an implementation, called TimedTextPad

14:11:32 [plh]

... I cover all of the timing

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... Paragraph002 is incorrect now, since body is a par

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... so Timing and content are well covered

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... and Glenn covers those pretty well as well

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... issue is with Timing

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... three major grouping of functionalities

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... color: background, visibility, opcate, color

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... I pass all of those. Glenn does. Philippe as well

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... so we're fine

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... then fonts stuff

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... fonts is relatively easy to pass for me and should be straighforward

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... both Glenn and Philippe pass those

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... tests aren't very well organized

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... some of those tests need to be slightly reworked

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... the only one at is the blur raduis on text outline

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... Glenn and Philippe don't do

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Philippe: willing to submit new tests for font family?

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Sean: eventually, I'll figure out if every test is correct

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... some of the tests cannot be told if they work or not

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... biggest concern is writing mode and unicode bidi group

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... vertical text and right to left

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so, we don't have that many feature that don't have two implementations

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... there are some stress tests we could provide

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... like lots of nested, multiple regions

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... ie testing the implementation rather than the spec

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Philippe: would be nice to have

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Sean: could put them into a separate bucket

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... we need the animation tests

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... and all the other

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Philippe: will do

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Sean: can you run Glen's implementation?

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Philippe: not for the 27 unfortunately

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Sean: I'll run tests on Glen then

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David: what about the metadata test?

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Sean: our implementations don't do anything with those

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Philippe: at least, we don't crash :)

14:28:43 [plh]

Sean: If I get around the rest, I might do something

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David: we do something with them, when converting to our own XML format

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... the color code that we use is sophisticated

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... using scene details as well

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... I could send a pointer around, it's under license GPLv2

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Sean: so, we're in a pretty good shape

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... paramaters: cell resolution? clock mode?

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David: if you're dealing with region, it would be relatively easy

14:33:16 [plh]

Sean: yes

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Sean: framerate is fine, no sure with multipliers. but that basic arithmetic

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Topic: Schedule

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Sean: let's pick May 1. June 1 for end of last call

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... July 1 done with comments

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... PR by July 1

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Philippe: that would be REC in August. not the best time for a press release

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sean: press release last week of August or first week of september

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Philippe: if Glenn doesn't show up by April 1, we can look into finding an alternate editor

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David: there was two or three required features what the authoring system is required to support

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Sean: I'll look at the features in appendix C

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... we should leave April for writing and testing implementations

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... for example. for blur radius, we need to have that text provisional.

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Philippe: we should make it clear that everything needs to be implemented no later than July 1. Everything that it is not is out.

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Topic: Next meeting

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No meeting on March 20

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-Plh

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IA_(DFXP)10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Plh, +0154558aaaa, +41.22.717.aabb

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Next meeting is March 27

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Regrets from plh

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[adjourned]

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/13-tt-minutes.html plh

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