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13:25:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3794
13:25:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:25:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
13:25:29 <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2009
13:26:42 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Mar/0010.html
13:26:52 <shadi> agenda+ Review of updated EARL 1.0 Schema
13:27:06 <shadi> agenda+ Review of updated EARL Overview
13:27:14 <shadi> agenda+ Progress check-in and schedule
13:27:24 <shadi> agenda+ Next and future meetings
13:28:56 <JohannesK> JohannesK has joined #er
13:29:33 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()9:30AM has now started
13:29:39 <Zakim> +CarlosV
13:29:52 <JohannesK> zakim, CarlosV is really me
13:29:52 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
13:30:01 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:30:01 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:30:02 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:30:19 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:30:27 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:30:27 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:30:28 <Zakim> +Shadi
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13:31:55 <Zakim> +CarlosI
13:34:06 <shadi> regrets: Mike
13:35:00 <shadi> agenda?
13:35:10 <shadi> scribe: Johannes
13:35:17 <shadi> scribenick: JohannesK
13:35:30 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
13:35:30 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Review of updated EARL 1.0 Schema" taken up [from shadi]
13:35:42 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090309
13:36:17 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:36:19 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:36:19 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:36:21 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:37:21 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Mar/0014.html
13:37:33 <JohannesK> saz: EALR 1.0 schema doc seems quite complete; some comments by JK
13:38:08 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:38:20 <shadi> zakim, code?
13:38:20 <Zakim> the conference code is 3794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
13:38:40 <Zakim> +??P12
13:38:53 <shadi> zakim, ? is me
13:38:53 <Zakim> +shadi; got it
13:40:49 <shadi> action: shadi "producer must generate" to "produce must be able to generate"
13:40:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - \"producer must generate\" to \"produce must be able to generate\" [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
13:40:50 <JohannesK> SAZ: Comment of Producer section; Accept proposed wording
13:41:33 <JohannesK> SAZ: Comment on Consumer: RDF/XML is a specifcation in itself
13:41:52 <shadi> action: shadi "in RDF/XML serialization" to "in any RDF/XML serialization"
13:41:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - \"in RDF/XML serialization\" to \"in any RDF/XML serialization\" [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
13:41:52 <JohannesK> SAZ: Proposed wording may not be necessary
13:42:19 <cvelasco> cvelasco has joined #er
13:42:20 <JohannesK> SAZ: Accept editorial change
13:42:27 <shadi> action: to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK
13:42:27 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
13:42:43 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Nov/0023.html
13:42:49 <shadi> action: shadi to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK
13:42:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Do editorial suggestions by JohannesK [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
13:43:20 <Zakim> +JohannesK.a
13:44:22 <cvelasco> zakim, JohannesK.a is really cvelasco
13:44:22 <Zakim> +cvelasco; got it
13:44:23 <JohannesK> zakim: JohannesK.a is really CarlosV
13:44:45 <shadi> action: shadi to change outcome value and test mode from instance to sub-classes (throughtout the document)
13:44:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Change outcome value and test mode from instance to sub-classes (throughtout the document) [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
13:45:19 <JohannesK> saz: more thoughts/comments?
13:46:54 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090309#terms
13:47:17 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090309#conformance
13:56:36 <JohannesK> CV: we should define "related properties" somewhere in the document
13:57:37 <Zakim> -CarlosI
13:58:18 <Zakim> +CarlosI
13:58:51 <JohannesK> JK: If there were conformance sections like this in Content-in-RDF and HTTP-in-RDF would it then be wise to require conforming EARL producers/consumers to be conforming Content and HTTP producers/consumers?
14:00:19 <shadi> action: shadi to add editor's note about supporting HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and Pointers-in-RDF
14:00:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Add editor's note about supporting HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and Pointers-in-RDF [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
14:01:47 <JohannesK> JK: section 3.8 range of pointer property is None. Should it be something like ptr:Pointer? Should Pointer methods be listed in item #14 of section 4.1?
14:02:16 <shadi> action: shadi to add pointers to point #4 of section 4.1
14:02:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-85 - Add pointers to point #4 of section 4.1 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
14:02:47 <cvelasco> Aside note: replace in the EARL Schema minCardinality and maxCardinality by cardinality
14:03:29 <JohannesK> CarlosV, I think the RDFS online is outdated anyway
14:03:43 <shadi> action: shadi to add range of earl:pointer to ptrs:Pointer
14:03:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Add range of earl:pointer to ptrs:Pointer [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
14:05:54 <JohannesK> saz: please read section4 and appendix A, and send comments about improving them
14:06:12 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:06:12 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review of updated EARL Overview" taken up [from shadi]
14:06:23 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/earl-new.php
14:06:39 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Mar/0015.html
14:07:39 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/earl.php
14:11:00 <JohannesK> saz issues are still in the issue tracking system
14:14:39 <JohannesK> JK: change "The working group has since published a series of modules for EARL, including" to "The working group has since published a series of other vocabularies that could be used together with EARL 1.0 Schema, including"
14:15:53 <JohannesK> JK: change "before publishing a Last Call for EARL 1.0 Schema together with its modules" to "before publishing a Last Call for EARL 1.0 Schema together with the other vocabularies"
14:17:44 <JohannesK> CV: I see all the vocabularies more like a whole framework
14:18:35 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:18:35 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Progress check-in and schedule" taken up [from shadi]
14:18:49 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/charter4
14:20:55 <JohannesK> CV: will send a new guide draft by next week
14:24:30 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:24:30 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Next and future meetings" taken up [from shadi]
14:24:42 <JohannesK> saz: please send questions about timeline/scheduling
14:25:12 <Zakim> -cvelasco
14:25:16 <Zakim> -JohannesK
14:25:25 <Zakim> -CarlosI
14:25:26 <Zakim> -shadi
14:25:28 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()9:30AM has ended
14:25:29 <Zakim> Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, CarlosI, cvelasco
14:34:07 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:34:07 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:34:07 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:34:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:34:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-minutes.html trackbot
14:34:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> I see 8 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-actions.rdf :
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi "producer must generate" to "produce must be able to generate" [1]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-40-49
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi "in RDF/XML serialization" to "in any RDF/XML serialization" [2]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-41-52
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK [3]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-42-27
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK [4]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-42-49
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to change outcome value and test mode from instance to sub-classes (throughtout the document) [5]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-44-45
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to add editor's note about supporting HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and Pointers-in-RDF [6]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T14-00-19
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to add pointers to point #4 of section 4.1 [7]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T14-02-16
14:34:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to add range of earl:pointer to ptrs:Pointer [8]
14:34:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T14-03-43