IRC log of er on 2009-03-11
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be 3794
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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- Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 11 March 2009
- 13:26:42 [shadi]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Mar/0010.html
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- agenda+ Review of updated EARL 1.0 Schema
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- agenda+ Review of updated EARL Overview
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- agenda+ Progress check-in and schedule
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- agenda+ Next and future meetings
- 13:28:56 [JohannesK]
- JohannesK has joined #er
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- WAI_ERTWG()9:30AM has now started
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- +CarlosV
- 13:29:52 [JohannesK]
- zakim, CarlosV is really me
- 13:29:52 [Zakim]
- +JohannesK; got it
- 13:30:01 [shadi]
- zakim, call shadi-617
- 13:30:01 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; the call is being made
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- +Shadi
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- -Shadi
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- zakim, call shadi-617
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- ok, shadi; the call is being made
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- +Shadi
- 13:30:34 [carlosI]
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- +CarlosI
- 13:34:06 [shadi]
- regrets: Mike
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- agenda?
- 13:35:10 [shadi]
- scribe: Johannes
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- scribenick: JohannesK
- 13:35:30 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Review of updated EARL 1.0 Schema" taken up [from shadi]
- 13:35:42 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090309
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- -Shadi
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- zakim, call shadi-617
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- ok, shadi; the call is being made
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- +Shadi
- 13:37:21 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Mar/0014.html
- 13:37:33 [JohannesK]
- saz: EALR 1.0 schema doc seems quite complete; some comments by JK
- 13:38:08 [Zakim]
- -Shadi
- 13:38:20 [shadi]
- zakim, code?
- 13:38:20 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 3794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
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- +??P12
- 13:38:53 [shadi]
- zakim, ? is me
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- +shadi; got it
- 13:40:49 [shadi]
- action: shadi "producer must generate" to "produce must be able to generate"
- 13:40:49 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-80 - \"producer must generate\" to \"produce must be able to generate\" [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 13:40:50 [JohannesK]
- SAZ: Comment of Producer section; Accept proposed wording
- 13:41:33 [JohannesK]
- SAZ: Comment on Consumer: RDF/XML is a specifcation in itself
- 13:41:52 [shadi]
- action: shadi "in RDF/XML serialization" to "in any RDF/XML serialization"
- 13:41:52 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-81 - \"in RDF/XML serialization\" to \"in any RDF/XML serialization\" [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 13:41:52 [JohannesK]
- SAZ: Proposed wording may not be necessary
- 13:42:19 [cvelasco]
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- 13:42:20 [JohannesK]
- SAZ: Accept editorial change
- 13:42:27 [shadi]
- action: to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK
- 13:42:27 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - to
- 13:42:43 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Nov/0023.html
- 13:42:49 [shadi]
- action: shadi to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK
- 13:42:49 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-82 - Do editorial suggestions by JohannesK [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 13:43:20 [Zakim]
- +JohannesK.a
- 13:44:22 [cvelasco]
- zakim, JohannesK.a is really cvelasco
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- +cvelasco; got it
- 13:44:23 [JohannesK]
- zakim: JohannesK.a is really CarlosV
- 13:44:45 [shadi]
- action: shadi to change outcome value and test mode from instance to sub-classes (throughtout the document)
- 13:44:54 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-83 - Change outcome value and test mode from instance to sub-classes (throughtout the document) [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 13:45:19 [JohannesK]
- saz: more thoughts/comments?
- 13:46:54 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090309#terms
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090309#conformance
- 13:56:36 [JohannesK]
- CV: we should define "related properties" somewhere in the document
- 13:57:37 [Zakim]
- -CarlosI
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- +CarlosI
- 13:58:51 [JohannesK]
- JK: If there were conformance sections like this in Content-in-RDF and HTTP-in-RDF would it then be wise to require conforming EARL producers/consumers to be conforming Content and HTTP producers/consumers?
- 14:00:19 [shadi]
- action: shadi to add editor's note about supporting HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and Pointers-in-RDF
- 14:00:19 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-84 - Add editor's note about supporting HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and Pointers-in-RDF [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 14:01:47 [JohannesK]
- JK: section 3.8 range of pointer property is None. Should it be something like ptr:Pointer? Should Pointer methods be listed in item #14 of section 4.1?
- 14:02:16 [shadi]
- action: shadi to add pointers to point #4 of section 4.1
- 14:02:16 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-85 - Add pointers to point #4 of section 4.1 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 14:02:47 [cvelasco]
- Aside note: replace in the EARL Schema minCardinality and maxCardinality by cardinality
- 14:03:29 [JohannesK]
- CarlosV, I think the RDFS online is outdated anyway
- 14:03:43 [shadi]
- action: shadi to add range of earl:pointer to ptrs:Pointer
- 14:03:43 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-86 - Add range of earl:pointer to ptrs:Pointer [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-03-18].
- 14:05:54 [JohannesK]
- saz: please read section4 and appendix A, and send comments about improving them
- 14:06:12 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2. "Review of updated EARL Overview" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:06:23 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/earl-new.php
- 14:06:39 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Mar/0015.html
- 14:07:39 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/earl.php
- 14:11:00 [JohannesK]
- saz issues are still in the issue tracking system
- 14:14:39 [JohannesK]
- JK: change "The working group has since published a series of modules for EARL, including" to "The working group has since published a series of other vocabularies that could be used together with EARL 1.0 Schema, including"
- 14:15:53 [JohannesK]
- JK: change "before publishing a Last Call for EARL 1.0 Schema together with its modules" to "before publishing a Last Call for EARL 1.0 Schema together with the other vocabularies"
- 14:17:44 [JohannesK]
- CV: I see all the vocabularies more like a whole framework
- 14:18:35 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 3. "Progress check-in and schedule" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:18:49 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/charter4
- 14:20:55 [JohannesK]
- CV: will send a new guide draft by next week
- 14:24:30 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 4. "Next and future meetings" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:24:42 [JohannesK]
- saz: please send questions about timeline/scheduling
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- -cvelasco
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- -JohannesK
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- -CarlosI
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- -shadi
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- WAI_ERTWG()9:30AM has ended
- 14:25:29 [Zakim]
- Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, CarlosI, cvelasco
- 14:34:07 [shadi]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 14:34:07 [Zakim]
- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 14:34:08 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
- 14:34:09 [RRSAgent]
- I see 8 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: shadi "producer must generate" to "produce must be able to generate" [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-40-49
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- ACTION: shadi "in RDF/XML serialization" to "in any RDF/XML serialization" [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-41-52
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- ACTION: to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-42-27
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- ACTION: shadi to do editorial suggestions by JohannesK [4]
- 14:34:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-42-49
- 14:34:09 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: shadi to change outcome value and test mode from instance to sub-classes (throughtout the document) [5]
- 14:34:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T13-44-45
- 14:34:09 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: shadi to add editor's note about supporting HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and Pointers-in-RDF [6]
- 14:34:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T14-00-19
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- ACTION: shadi to add pointers to point #4 of section 4.1 [7]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T14-02-16
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- ACTION: shadi to add range of earl:pointer to ptrs:Pointer [8]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-er-irc#T14-03-43