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20:18:38 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
20:18:38 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()5:00PM scheduled to start in 42 minutes
20:18:46 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set record i18n
20:18:53 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
20:19:06 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core WG Teleconference
20:19:12 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
20:19:20 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
20:19:46 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0306.html
20:19:53 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
20:19:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
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21:00:31 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()5:00PM has now started
21:00:38 <Zakim> + +1.408.790.aaaa
21:00:42 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
21:00:43 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
21:00:43 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
21:00:44 <Zakim> +Richard
21:01:43 <David> I'll be with you in 5 minutes
21:01:53 <aphillip> Regrets: YvesS
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21:08:08 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
21:09:00 <Zakim> -Richard
21:09:41 <r12a> zakim, dial richard-home
21:09:41 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
21:09:43 <Zakim> +Richard
21:10:51 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda and Minutes
21:11:39 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Mar/0017.html
21:11:49 <aphillip> agenda + qa-lang-priorities
21:12:10 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
21:12:19 <aphillip> Addison: send list of pending reviews and update review radar so we can respond to requests 
21:13:24 <aphillip> Addison: Ping CSS3 about normalization issue 
21:13:33 <aphillip> Addison: supply text to WG of a suitable selectors normalization health warning 
21:13:47 <aphillip> richard: mock up changes to indexes for review 
21:13:48 <aphillip> DONE
21:14:00 <aphillip> David: poll the working group about date and time changes for the teleconference due to Summer/Daylight Time 
21:14:03 <aphillip> IN PROGRESS
21:14:19 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
21:14:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
21:14:33 <David> 10 seconds...
21:14:53 <aphillip> richard: need to reply about TPAC
21:15:05 <aphillip> ... today, no extension
21:15:09 <aphillip> addison: it's in our agenda
21:15:11 <Zakim> +??P2
21:15:20 <aphillip> zakim, ??P2 is David
21:15:20 <Zakim> +David; got it
21:15:45 <r12a>  yes we can hear you
21:15:50 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
21:15:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
21:16:17 <aphillip> Topic: TPAC 2009 Participation
21:16:33 <aphillip> addison: i would like to indicate that we'll have a f2f at tpac 2009
21:16:41 <aphillip> ... which is in sta. clara, California
21:17:02 <aphillip> ... have seen no objections; not many folks can come?
21:17:17 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: sign up i18n for tpac 2009
21:17:37 <aphillip> Topic: Time slot for future teleconferences
21:17:50 <David> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pHvp1TNbXGvJ_0EYGGwkjKQ
21:17:56 <aphillip> david has pulled together our responses
21:18:23 <aphillip> b most popular (1900 UTC)
21:19:43 <aphillip> any objections to making this our new teleconference time?
21:19:57 <aphillip> (following 28th march)
21:20:22 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: change zakim reservation beginning in April to reflect new telecon time of 1900Z
21:21:17 <aphillip> Topic: SKOS Language Tagging
21:21:46 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0300.html
21:22:59 <aphillip> discussion of language tagging and selection in SKOS
21:29:17 <aphillip> richard: asked for wording about their not showing what best practice is
21:29:58 <aphillip> "See the SKOS Primer for more examples of labeling SKOS concepts. Note that the labeling shown in these examples does not necessarily indicate best practice. The SKOS Reference tries to establish a general framework that is applicable across a range of situations, which may then be refined and/or constrained by usage conventions for more specific situations. Application and language-specific usage conventions are out of scope for the SKOS Reference."
21:31:29 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0290.html
21:31:47 <aphillip> Because there are many more language tags that can be generated than there are distinct labels needed in any particular KOS, it is recommended that implementations match requests for a label in a given language to related language tags that exist in the SKOS document, perhaps by implementing the "lookup" algorithm from IETF BCP 47. This allows the SKOS document to carry only those labels that are distinct for a given language or collection of languages.
21:35:56 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: reply to SKOS supporting richard and addison's positions
21:36:18 <aphillip> Topic: Alphabetic Index for Topics 
21:36:25 <aphillip> Richard would like us to agree to move forward with the alphabetic index replacing the current topic index and rearranging the main navigation links as per   283.html
21:36:32 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0283.html
21:36:57 <najib> q+
21:37:00 <aphillip> addison: any comments?
21:37:08 <aphillip> najib?
21:37:10 <aphillip> q
21:37:12 <aphillip> q?
21:37:22 <najib> I have remarks about Arabic titles. Will be sent by mail.
21:37:25 <aphillip> ack najib
21:37:27 <aphillip> okay
21:37:37 <aphillip> thanks najib!
21:37:38 <najib> Can help with index.
21:37:50 <najib> That's all.
21:37:55 <aphillip> thanks
21:38:01 <aphillip> richard; two things here
21:38:10 <aphillip> .... first, would like green light
21:38:30 <aphillip> ... second, would also like to rearrange site nav links as described in email linked above
21:39:20 <aphillip> addison: can we spell i18n out?
21:45:49 <aphillip> addison: also a little concerned to see an "alphabet tab", since this is commonly an i18n warning sign
21:51:07 <aphillip> chair: any objections ot making live?
21:51:30 <aphillip> ACTION: Richard: make the new index live with appropriate changes to site nav and responding to issues raised
21:52:21 <aphillip>  Topic: Unicode Normalization in CSS Selectors, XML, HTML, and the fate of CharMod 
21:52:45 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0311.html
21:55:29 <aphillip> addison: volunteer to participate in future xml telecon?
21:56:10 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Mar/0017.html
21:56:14 <aphillip> Topic: QA Lang Priorities
21:56:24 <aphillip> which is here:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Mar/0017.html
21:56:58 <aphillip> richard: would like to clean this list up
21:57:12 <aphillip> any objections?
21:57:17 <aphillip> (none voiced)
21:57:34 <aphillip> ACTION: Richard: clean up qa-lang-priorities
21:57:50 <aphillip> Topic: Setting Language Text 
21:57:58 <aphillip> Richard would also like feedback on the proposed text and associated links on the home page related to setting language as per the first part of   287.html
21:58:09 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2009JanMar/0287.html
21:59:02 <aphillip> richard: would like to put the languages on the home page, with a target page with explanation, etc.
21:59:12 <aphillip> ... any thoughts?
21:59:59 <aphillip> any objections?
22:00:08 <aphillip> (none voiced)
22:00:29 <aphillip> richard will send a note to the list saying "I'm about to do this"
22:00:51 <aphillip> public and winter
22:03:21 <aphillip> just to winter
22:03:36 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
22:04:36 <Zakim> -aphillip
22:04:38 <Zakim> -dchiba
22:04:44 <Zakim> -David
22:04:48 <Zakim> -Richard
22:04:49 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()5:00PM has ended
22:04:50 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.408.790.aaaa, Richard, aphillip, [Oracle], dchiba, David
22:04:57 <aphillip> zakim, bye
22:04:57 <Zakim> Zakim has left #core
22:05:04 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
22:05:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
22:05:09 <aphillip> RRSAgent, bye
22:05:09 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-actions.rdf :
22:05:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Addison: sign up i18n for tpac 2009 [1]
22:05:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-irc#T21-17-17
22:05:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Addison: change zakim reservation beginning in April to reflect new telecon time of 1900Z [2]
22:05:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-irc#T21-20-22
22:05:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Addison: reply to SKOS supporting richard and addison's positions [3]
22:05:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-irc#T21-35-56
22:05:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard: make the new index live with appropriate changes to site nav and responding to issues raised [4]
22:05:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-irc#T21-51-30
22:05:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard: clean up qa-lang-priorities [5]
22:05:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-core-irc#T21-57-34