IRC log of mediafrag on 2009-03-04
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
- 09:38:00 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
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- Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 04 March 2009
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- 10:00:10 [jackjansen]
- Is there a teleconf today? I haven't seen an agenda....
- 10:01:07 [raphael]
- Yes Jack, agenda is at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Mar/0004.html
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- IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started
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- +raphael
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- +Yves
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- +Jack_Jansen
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- +cleophas
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- zakim, cleophas is Gui
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- +Gui; got it
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- + +81.80.614.3.aaaa
- 10:03:39 [raphael]
- zakim, aaaa is conrad
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- +conrad; got it
- 10:03:55 [raphael]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Mar/0004.html
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- +Thierry
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- +??P5
- 10:04:31 [raphael]
- Chairs: Erik, Raphael
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- Scribe: Guillaume
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- Scribenick: Gui
- 10:05:41 [jackjansen]
- zakim, mute me
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- zakim, mute me
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- 10:06:14 [raphael]
- Topic: 1. Admin
- 10:06:20 [raphael]
- Propose to accept the minutes: http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-mediafrag-minutes.html
- 10:06:25 [davy]
- +1
- 10:06:26 [Gui]
- Accept last meeting minutes?
- 10:06:26 [conrad]
- +1
- 10:06:28 [Gui]
- +1
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- +??P6
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- 10:06:43 [mhausenblas]
- Zakim, ??P6 is me
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- +mhausenblas; got it
- 10:06:51 [Gui]
- TOPIC: Next F2F meeting
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- Silvia to participate in the morning
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- Yves to book the Zakim session for the F2F
- 10:08:31 [Gui]
- Next TPAC meeting is in Santa Clara, raphael proposes alternative to meet at MIT in Boston. What does the group think?
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- TOPIC: Next TPAC meeting
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- 2-6 November
- 10:09:33 [erik]
- Davy & I will be able to attend at whatever premises
- 10:09:36 [Gui]
- Yves says we should have it with the Media Annotation WG
- 10:10:26 [Gui]
- We might want to have input from the other working group and to discuss with them
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- zakim, unmute me
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- zakim, unmute me
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- zakim, mute me
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- jack mention that since most people in Europe, a European meeting might be preferred but it's about having TAPC with other groups
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- s/mention/mentions/
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- s/mention/mentions
- 10:14:11 [tmichel]
- Daylight Savings Time -- aka Summer Time -- coming next week to the US.
- 10:14:11 [tmichel]
- Most of the US will be moving its clocks forward this year on March 8.
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- This is 3 weeks earlier than Europe.
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- Most folk outside the US will need to join teleconferences 1 hour
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- earlier between 8 March and 29 March at 12:00-13:00Z.
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- After 29 March most teleconferences will be back on the same relative
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- local time for Europe.
- 10:15:24 [Gui]
- Zakim bridge is on US time
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- The next meeting agenda will have the teleconference time message in bold
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- Topic: 2. Preparation of Working Draft
- 10:17:02 [raphael]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/
- 10:17:06 [tmichel]
- We could request to have our telecon scheduled in UTC, but I would not recommend this as it may colapse with other conference which are schedulled in US time
- 10:17:34 [erik]
- q+
- 10:18:49 [Gui]
- Michael would like a @tmichel in the draft
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- tmichel offers to do some editions : starts with the requirement section
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- ack q
- 10:19:57 [raphael]
- s/tmichiel/mhausenblas
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- q-
- 10:20:50 [conrad]
- i'd like to help with section 7
- 10:20:52 [raphael]
- zakim, ack erik
- 10:20:52 [Zakim]
- I see no one on the speaker queue
- 10:21:50 [Gui]
- Raphael encourages everybody to have there section ready for next week teleconference
- 10:22:38 [Gui]
- jackjansen needs a replacement for preparing section 6 Naming Fragments
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- mhausenblas offered to work on section 6
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- Topic: 2.2 Syntax
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- jackjansen worries with the current syntax using colons it's difficult to parse the different types of digits
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- Existing libraries do not provide clues on how to recognize a typical timecode s
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- Yves : Issue would be if there is an ambiguity, which makes it difficult to parse
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- Ask the community to comment on the issue
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- FINDING A NAME FOR THE TOP LEVEL
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- zakim, unmute me
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- Topic: FINDING A NAME FOR THE TOP LEVEL
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- zakim, mute me
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- 10:30:47 [jackjansen]
- +1 for vote
- 10:30:52 [Gui]
- Let's have a questionnaire for this
- 10:31:28 [Gui]
- ACTION : Erik and Raphael to set up a questionnaire to find a name for the top level Media Fragment predicate
- 10:31:28 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-45 - And Raphael to set up a questionnaire to find a name for the top level Media Fragment predicate [on Erik Mannens - due 2009-03-11].
- 10:32:01 [conrad]
- Zakim, mute me
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- Topic 2.23. Time units, optional?
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- ACTION: Yves Check on later version of the grammar - 25/03/2009
- 10:34:01 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-46 - Check on later version of the grammar - 25/03/2009 [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-03-11].
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- zakim, unmute me
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- zakim, mute me
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- http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=railroad+diagrams&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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- Thanks!
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- TOPIC: 2.4 Existing Technologies Survey
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- Send email to mailing list to get feedback, otherwise we put the content into main document
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- TOPIC: 3. ISSUES
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- ISSUE-3
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- Does our MF URI syntax imply that we need to update MIME Type
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- registrations?
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- We should do it the generic way (to ensure the adoption of the media types)
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- ACTION: Michael Write the options and the procedure on Wiki
- 10:41:11 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-47 - Write the options and the procedure on Wiki [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-03-11].
- 10:42:52 [Gui]
- Priority is to have the draft ready
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- Remember the 1 hour earlier next week
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- -mhausenblas
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- bye
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- -Jack_Jansen
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- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-minutes.html Gui
- 10:43:04 [conrad]
- thanks
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- -Yves
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- -raphael
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- -IBBT
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- -Gui
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- -conrad
- 10:43:11 [raphael]
- meetings adjourned
- 10:43:18 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
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- -Thierry
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- IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were raphael, Yves, Jack_Jansen, Gui, +81.80.614.3.aaaa, conrad, Thierry, Erik, Davy, mhausenblas
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 10:43:27 [raphael]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
- 10:43:31 [raphael]
- bye Zakim
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- zakim, bye
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- 10:44:05 [Gui]
- Thanks for your help, Raphael
- 10:46:06 [raphael]
- :-)
- 10:46:11 [raphael]
- minutes sounds good
- 10:46:25 [raphael]
- Yves, can you just remove the draft ? I will then send them on the mailing list
- 10:47:02 [Yves]
- sure, 2s
- 10:47:23 [raphael]
- thx
- 10:48:44 [Yves]
- done!
- 10:53:04 [nessy]
- ups
- 10:53:07 [nessy]
- just as I remembered
- 10:53:09 [nessy]
- :(
- 10:53:11 [nessy]
- sorry!
- 10:53:22 [nessy]
- an hour later would suit me better
- 10:54:11 [raphael]
- for the next 3 weeks ?
- 10:54:30 [raphael]
- sorry Silvia, we might revise that, but currently it is just the fault of the daylight saving times in US
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- before Europe applies the same
- 10:58:15 [nessy]
- maybe we are an hour later, if you are an hour earlier in Europe
- 10:58:18 [nessy]
- that will work well for me
- 10:58:27 [nessy]
- didn't miss much, did I?
- 10:59:10 [raphael]
- re: calendar, I will send in the agenda for next week telecon the exact hour for all time zones :-)
- 10:59:15 [raphael]
- no, you didn't ..
- 10:59:20 [Yves]
- we decided that the fragment name would be "fragmentfragmentfragment"
- 10:59:28 [raphael]
- LOL
- 10:59:32 [Yves]
- O:-)
- 10:59:48 [raphael]
- main point is: WD is in place, we need ALL to update asap the various sections ... editing the xml portion
- 10:59:55 [raphael]
- first copy the content from the wiki
- 11:00:26 [raphael]
- i will send later today *my* description of the 2-ways and 4-ways handshake and request your comments :-)
- 11:08:42 [Yves]
- don't be scared :)
- 11:31:21 [nessy]
- lol
- 11:31:45 [nessy]
- I have kept the page open to remind me to do the editing this week
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