09:37:56 RRSAgent has joined #mediafrag 09:37:56 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-irc 09:37:58 RRSAgent, make logs public 09:37:58 Zakim has joined #mediafrag 09:38:00 Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG 09:38:00 ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes 09:38:01 Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference 09:38:01 Date: 04 March 2009 09:58:30 mhausenblas has joined #mediafrag 09:59:04 davy has joined #mediafrag 09:59:43 jackjansen has joined #mediafrag 10:00:10 Is there a teleconf today? I haven't seen an agenda.... 10:01:07 Yes Jack, agenda is at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Mar/0004.html 10:01:15 IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started 10:01:22 +raphael 10:01:52 Gui has joined #mediafrag 10:02:07 +Yves 10:02:27 +Jack_Jansen 10:02:54 +cleophas 10:03:01 tmichel has joined #mediafrag 10:03:17 zakim, cleophas is Gui 10:03:17 +Gui; got it 10:03:24 + +81.80.614.3.aaaa 10:03:39 zakim, aaaa is conrad 10:03:39 +conrad; got it 10:03:55 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Mar/0004.html 10:04:01 +Thierry 10:04:01 +??P5 10:04:31 Chairs: Erik, Raphael 10:04:44 Scribe: Guillaume 10:04:48 Scribenick: Gui 10:05:41 zakim, mute me 10:05:41 Jack_Jansen should now be muted 10:06:00 zakim, mute me 10:06:00 Gui should now be muted 10:06:14 Topic: 1. Admin 10:06:20 Propose to accept the minutes: http://www.w3.org/2009/02/25-mediafrag-minutes.html 10:06:25 +1 10:06:26 Accept last meeting minutes? 10:06:26 +1 10:06:28 +1 10:06:31 +??P6 10:06:33 erik has joined #mediafrag 10:06:43 Zakim, ??P6 is me 10:06:43 +mhausenblas; got it 10:06:51 TOPIC: Next F2F meeting 10:07:05 Silvia to participate in the morning 10:07:47 Yves to book the Zakim session for the F2F 10:08:31 Next TPAC meeting is in Santa Clara, raphael proposes alternative to meet at MIT in Boston. What does the group think? 10:08:51 TOPIC: Next TPAC meeting 10:09:12 2-6 November 10:09:33 Davy & I will be able to attend at whatever premises 10:09:36 Yves says we should have it with the Media Annotation WG 10:10:26 We might want to have input from the other working group and to discuss with them 10:10:54 zakim, unmute me 10:10:54 Jack_Jansen should no longer be muted 10:11:07 zakim, unmute me 10:11:07 Gui should no longer be muted 10:12:27 zakim, mute me 10:12:27 Gui should now be muted 10:13:24 jack mention that since most people in Europe, a European meeting might be preferred but it's about having TAPC with other groups 10:13:36 s/mention/mentions/ 10:13:47 s/mention/mentions 10:14:11 Daylight Savings Time -- aka Summer Time -- coming next week to the US. 10:14:11 Most of the US will be moving its clocks forward this year on March 8. 10:14:11 This is 3 weeks earlier than Europe. 10:14:13 Most folk outside the US will need to join teleconferences 1 hour 10:14:15 earlier between 8 March and 29 March at 12:00-13:00Z. 10:14:16 After 29 March most teleconferences will be back on the same relative 10:14:18 local time for Europe. 10:15:24 Zakim bridge is on US time 10:16:53 The next meeting agenda will have the teleconference time message in bold 10:16:57 Topic: 2. Preparation of Working Draft 10:17:02 http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/ 10:17:06 We could request to have our telecon scheduled in UTC, but I would not recommend this as it may colapse with other conference which are schedulled in US time 10:17:34 q+ 10:18:49 Michael would like a @tmichel in the draft 10:19:47 tmichel offers to do some editions : starts with the requirement section 10:19:49 ack q 10:19:57 s/tmichiel/mhausenblas 10:20:28 q- 10:20:50 i'd like to help with section 7 10:20:52 zakim, ack erik 10:20:52 I see no one on the speaker queue 10:21:50 Raphael encourages everybody to have there section ready for next week teleconference 10:22:38 jackjansen needs a replacement for preparing section 6 Naming Fragments 10:23:51 mhausenblas offered to work on section 6 10:24:41 Topic: 2.2 Syntax 10:26:52 jackjansen worries with the current syntax using colons it's difficult to parse the different types of digits 10:28:09 Existing libraries do not provide clues on how to recognize a typical timecode s 10:29:03 Yves : Issue would be if there is an ambiguity, which makes it difficult to parse 10:29:22 Ask the community to comment on the issue 10:29:59 FINDING A NAME FOR THE TOP LEVEL 10:30:16 zakim, unmute me 10:30:16 Gui should no longer be muted 10:30:20 Topic: FINDING A NAME FOR THE TOP LEVEL 10:30:37 zakim, mute me 10:30:37 Gui should now be muted 10:30:47 +1 for vote 10:30:52 Let's have a questionnaire for this 10:31:28 ACTION : Erik and Raphael to set up a questionnaire to find a name for the top level Media Fragment predicate 10:31:28 Created ACTION-45 - And Raphael to set up a questionnaire to find a name for the top level Media Fragment predicate [on Erik Mannens - due 2009-03-11]. 10:32:01 Zakim, mute me 10:32:01 conrad should now be muted 10:33:18 Topic 2.23. Time units, optional? 10:34:00 ACTION: Yves Check on later version of the grammar - 25/03/2009 10:34:01 Created ACTION-46 - Check on later version of the grammar - 25/03/2009 [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-03-11]. 10:34:54 zakim, unmute me 10:34:54 Gui should no longer be muted 10:36:07 zakim, mute me 10:36:07 Gui should now be muted 10:36:26 marie has joined #mediafrag 10:36:26 http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=railroad+diagrams&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 10:36:42 Thanks! 10:37:01 TOPIC: 2.4 Existing Technologies Survey 10:37:56 Send email to mailing list to get feedback, otherwise we put the content into main document 10:38:17 TOPIC: 3. ISSUES 10:38:22 ISSUE-3 10:38:38 Does our MF URI syntax imply that we need to update MIME Type 10:38:39 registrations? 10:40:16 We should do it the generic way (to ensure the adoption of the media types) 10:41:11 ACTION: Michael Write the options and the procedure on Wiki 10:41:11 Created ACTION-47 - Write the options and the procedure on Wiki [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2009-03-11]. 10:42:52 Priority is to have the draft ready 10:43:01 Remember the 1 hour earlier next week 10:43:02 -mhausenblas 10:43:02 bye 10:43:03 -Jack_Jansen 10:43:04 RRSAgent, draft minutes 10:43:04 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-minutes.html Gui 10:43:04 thanks 10:43:05 -Yves 10:43:06 -raphael 10:43:06 -IBBT 10:43:08 -Gui 10:43:10 -conrad 10:43:11 meetings adjourned 10:43:18 RRSAgent, draft minutes 10:43:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael 10:43:22 -Thierry 10:43:23 IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended 10:43:24 Attendees were raphael, Yves, Jack_Jansen, Gui, +81.80.614.3.aaaa, conrad, Thierry, Erik, Davy, mhausenblas 10:43:25 RRSAgent, make logs public 10:43:27 RRSAgent, draft minutes 10:43:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/04-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael 10:43:31 bye Zakim 10:43:33 zakim, bye 10:43:33 Zakim has left #mediafrag 10:44:05 Thanks for your help, Raphael 10:46:06 :-) 10:46:11 minutes sounds good 10:46:25 Yves, can you just remove the draft ? I will then send them on the mailing list 10:47:02 sure, 2s 10:47:23 thx 10:48:44 done! 10:53:04 ups 10:53:07 just as I remembered 10:53:09 :( 10:53:11 sorry! 10:53:22 an hour later would suit me better 10:54:11 for the next 3 weeks ? 10:54:30 sorry Silvia, we might revise that, but currently it is just the fault of the daylight saving times in US 10:54:37 before Europe applies the same 10:58:15 maybe we are an hour later, if you are an hour earlier in Europe 10:58:18 that will work well for me 10:58:27 didn't miss much, did I? 10:59:10 re: calendar, I will send in the agenda for next week telecon the exact hour for all time zones :-) 10:59:15 no, you didn't .. 10:59:20 we decided that the fragment name would be "fragmentfragmentfragment" 10:59:28 LOL 10:59:32 O:-) 10:59:48 main point is: WD is in place, we need ALL to update asap the various sections ... editing the xml portion 10:59:55 first copy the content from the wiki 11:00:26 i will send later today *my* description of the 2-ways and 4-ways handshake and request your comments :-) 11:08:42 don't be scared :) 11:31:21 lol 11:31:45 I have kept the page open to remind me to do the editing this week 13:24:49 raphael has joined #mediafrag