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<dug> Bob - I'd like to verify the attendee list for the f2f - if that's ok
<dug> so, who was SVij ?
<Sumeet> Sumeet I am there
<Yves> http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim
Fred Maciel as scribe
<Bob> scribe: Fred Maciel
<Bob> scribenick: fmaciel
<dug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Mar/0005.html
added F2F attendance
<Bob> Geoff's comments re minutes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Mar/0009.html
On (1) Agreement to add Bob's comment. No requests for other comments.
<Bob> bob will ad his comment concerning pointer to ws-ra homepage and mixed list
<dug> Bob asked several times and ways to see if people had any more
<dug> questions about either proposal and no one spoke up.
<asir> but we did not discuss IBM proposal last week
<Bob> Geoff described summary section of proposal. the chair asked if there were any questions concerning the proposal - "People can read" was one comment made.
<asir> i recall that both Geoff and I asked for more discussion of Geoff's proposal (particularly given variations in geoff's proposal
<gpilz1> me thinks he probably typed that in IRC
On (2), decided to use text above by Bob
Discussion on (3)
<Bob> geoff: voting on it is too soon, need more time to discuss. My proposal was only submitted yesterday and there were new comments on the mailing list about it as little as 10 minutes before the start of this call.
Text above accepted
Discussion on (4)
<dug> Bob asked if anyone's position would change with more discussions and
<dug> no one spoke up. This wasn't specific to Geoff's proposal but rather
<dug> to the issue itself.
<jeffm> +q
<Bob> Will any more discussion change anybody's minds?
<dug> +1
<jeffm> +q
<jeffm> =q
<dug> the vote was clear on which proposal we were voting on - I didn't hear any objection/confusion on that point.
<Bob> acj jeff
<asir> That is not what we heard ..
<asir> context is everything!
<gpilz1> timing is everything
Bob will add his recollection of his statement
<gpilz1> (sorry - as a drummer I have to say that)
Aproval of minutes defered until corrections done
F2F: 11 people attending in person
F2F in November? Need decision in call next week.
<dug> SoTD note: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Mar/0000.html
<Geoff> Bob - you were going to talk about the agenda for the F2F?
First working draft comments: received comment that front matter not clear what
is the purpose of document
<Geoff> bob's proposal looks OK to us
<Geoff> +1 to Yves
<dug> The working group <a>page</a> provides additional information and the related specifications produced by this working group.
<asir> why not mention the issues list?
<dug> we discussed and voted on this last week
Alternative wording by dug accepted
Structure of minutes
Proposal by Bob on issues for F2F discussion accepted without discussion (Bob: please add details later)
<scribe> New issues: all accepted, with proposers as owners
issues marked as completed changed to closed
6587
<Bob> proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Mar/0004.html
Curly brackets 1, 2, 4 accepted as partial resolution
<Geoff> +q
<dug> no text needed in not.conv. - just let ... say "ignore unknown extensions"
<Geoff> +q
<Katy> This text: ... If a receiver does not recognize an extension, the receiver SHOULD ignore it.
<asir> not consensus
Discussion on 3: undecided if it's notational or semantic change
<dug> if the WG says that black is white then of course we can say it :-)
<asir> Katy - your voice is breaking up a bit on the phone
Issue 6648 created for SOAP processing for Eventing
<Geoff> +q
<Bob> proposal, move {3} to a point after notional conventions labeled extensibility behavior
<gpilz1> !
<asir> Bob's proposal is consistent with other Web Service specifications
<Geoff> +1
<asir> See http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-ws-policy-20070904/#Extensibility
Bob's proposal accepted
<dug> shemp 1,2,4
<Bob> resolution: resolve 6587 with {1,2,and 4} limit description of ... to simply denote an extensibility point, and move explicit description of extensibility behavior to a new section
<Yves> +1
resolution accepted
proposal, close with no actions
Issue 6392 closed with no action
<Bob> resolution: 6392 CWNA
proposal, close with no actions
resolution: 6396 CWNA
resolution: 6588 closed
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