IRC log of sml on 2009-01-29

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logging to
19:01:53 [lencharest]
How do I ask zakim who is on the line?
19:01:55 [johnarwe_]
rrsagent, make log public
19:02:00 [johnarwe_]
zakim, who is here?
19:02:00 [Zakim]
sorry, johnarwe_, I don't know what conference this is
19:02:01 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Kirk, lencharest, johnarwe_, trackbot, MSM
19:02:12 [johnarwe_]
zakim, this is sml
19:02:12 [Zakim]
ok, johnarwe_; that matches XML_SMLWG()2:00PM
19:02:42 [Kirk]
rrsagent, make log public
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19:02:48 [MSM]
zakim, please call MSM-617
19:02:48 [Zakim]
ok, MSM; the call is being made
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19:03:03 [lencharest]
zakim, who is here?
19:03:03 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kirk, Sandy, [Microsoft], johnarwe_, MSM
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On IRC I see Sandy, RRSAgent, Zakim, Kirk, lencharest, johnarwe_, trackbot, MSM
19:03:14 [lencharest]
zakim, [Microsoft] is lencharest
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+lencharest; got it
19:03:25 [Kirk]
chair: John Arwe
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+ +1.425.836.aaaa
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zakim, aaaa is kiumar
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+kiumar; got it
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zakim, kiumar is kumar
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+kumar; got it
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19:08:33 [Kirk]
Topic: Approval of minutes 1/22
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19:09:09 [lencharest]
19:10:01 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: No objections to accepting minutes
19:10:20 [Kirk]
TOPIC: No Change to CG
19:10:42 [Kirk]
We are not attending F2F week of Feb 23
19:10:55 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Action Items
19:11:54 [Kirk]
MSM hopes to have action items closed by EOB tomorrow
19:12:30 [Kirk]
Except for AI 190 (lax fallback) will not be complete. John will close this AI.
19:12:48 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Change of Meeting Team
19:13:14 [Kirk]
We will decide to see what progress is today to decide whether we should meet again on this coming Monday.
19:13:32 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Farewell to MSM
19:14:58 [Kirk]
Tomorrow will be MSM's last day as a member of the Team.
19:15:38 [ginny_]
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19:15:54 [Kirk]
John expressed appreciation for MSM contributions to the working group.
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MSM expressed belief that Henry will due well, and we will be happy with Henry as well.
19:16:51 [Kirk]
TOPIC: New Work
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No new bugs
19:18:11 [Kirk]
MSM reports that issue regarding the length of the code lines as been resolved. That bug can be closed.
19:20:13 [Kirk]
Kumar: Will correct documents to "PR" version.
19:20:44 [Kirk]
Ginny: There is nothing left to fix with latest correction. Kumar can go ahead and fix the document.
19:21:33 [johnarwe_]
A. SML-IF Schema
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B. Localization of IF Identity Sample (Non-Normative)
19:21:33 [Kirk]
John: Points out the SML-IF doc has no copyright date; missing schema in SML.
19:22:25 [johnarwe_]
Actually you have them reversed Kirk... SML schema has no copyright date, SMLIF schema is xi:include
19:23:57 [MSM];%20charset=utf-8#SML_schema
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19:27:39 [Kirk]
Ginny: Editors need to check that schemas are present when they do a rebuild.
19:28:19 [Kirk]
Ginny will close 5492. Change target to PR.
19:29:37 [Kirk]
Issue 6260:
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Kumar will review this issue.
19:30:37 [Kirk]
19:31:08 [Kirk]
MSM: Changes 1, 2, 3 are now incorporated in SML & SML-IF
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...Change 4 is no longer necessary.
19:32:32 [Kirk]
John: Reports the has covered this in his draft.
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19:33:28 [Kirk]
Kumar: Reports that he wil cover change 6. Kumar will close bug.
19:33:58 [Kirk]
Issue 5680:
19:35:12 [Kirk]
Ginny has provided diff file.
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Len: Appendix F, offset paragraph, #1, too many "is"s. Ginny will remove one of the "is"s.
19:41:46 [Kirk]
Kumar: Recommends using "PR" when checking this in to invoke the PR rules.
19:42:10 [Kirk]
John: Agrees,
19:43:02 [Kirk]
MSM: Wishes there were a better solution to this problem within W3C.
19:43:21 [Kirk]
Ginny: Ch
19:43:45 [Kirk]
Ginny: Checking this in, Feb 12, 2009, with "PR".
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John: Any further changes to 5680? Any objections to marking 5680 as Editorial? Any need for "Needs Review"?
19:46:30 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: No Objections to any of these proposal. Ginny updates the issue.
19:46:48 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Review of PR Transition Request Draft
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19:50:06 [Kirk]
John: URIs refer to dates that we expect.
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19:51:06 [Kirk]
John: On MSMs recommendation, John needs to add URI to current version.
19:51:44 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: Consensus without objection to the proposed publication date.
19:53:52 [Kirk]
John reviews text and any changes to the text.
19:55:07 [Kirk]
...Implementation Information is a new section. No comments on this section.
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...Document Status has changes. Reviews changes.
19:57:45 [Kirk]
...Editors are allowed to readd the sentence what is striked-out if it is necessary to get the PubRules to run.
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20:00:42 [Kirk]
Kumar: Suggests moving sentences. John suggests moving Teil paragraph after "(XML) Activity"
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RESOLUTION: No further changes appear to be necessary. Consensus on content of the Transition Request.
20:03:45 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Implementation Reports
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20:04:23 [johnarwe_]
20:04:32 [Kirk]
Feature Implementation Report:
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MSM: Suggests using color backgrounds for Results.
20:07:08 [johnarwe_]
impl results: file:///C:/ARWE/Standards/SML/Temp/SMLPRTestCaseImplementationResults.html
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Implementation Results
20:07:19 [johnarwe_]
20:09:17 [Kirk]
John: Yellow means the tests are not committed by COSMOS to CVS, but they have been run by COSMOS.
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No further comments on Implementation Results
20:11:20 [Kirk]
TOPIC: SML Diffs Attecting performance
20:11:22 [johnarwe_]
SML diffs:;%20charset=utf-8
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20:15:59 [Kirk]
MSM: Points out that Appendix B of SML needs to be run through style sheet.
20:17:11 [Kirk]
John: Notes that the namespaces names have disappeared from the schema in Appendix A. MSM will try to fix. (Editors may need to manually fix this.)
20:19:45 [johnarwe_]
20:19:49 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: No other problems in the SML spec.
20:22:56 [Kirk]
John: Same namespace binding issue on the SML-IF schema.
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20:30:03 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: No other problems in the SML-IF schema.
20:32:03 [Kirk]
TOPIC: Meeting this Monday 02/02
20:33:04 [Kirk]
Possible topics: Review of the two Notes.
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NOTE: Kirk expresses regrets regarding meeting 02/02.
20:35:01 [Kirk]
John: Team is not ready to review Notes on Monday, given the need to do final editing.
20:35:45 [Kirk]
DECISION: Cancel 02/02 meeting. Resume 02/09. Topic: Discuss changes to Notes.
20:36:28 [Kirk]
John: Because of schedule transition meeting with Director, we may need to push out the publication date to the 19th.
20:36:53 [Kirk]
RESOLUTION: No objections to allowing this change of date of publication date.
20:38:07 [Kirk]
Len: Delete original Word docs from CVS, not part of revision history.
20:38:29 [Kirk]
...No objections noted.
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20:39:26 [Kirk]
Adjournment: 3:38 pm ET
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20:39:45 [Kirk]
rrsaagent, generate minutes
20:40:03 [Kirk]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate Kirk
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XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Kirk, Sandy, johnarwe_, MSM, lencharest, +1.425.836.aaaa, kumar, Ginny_Smith
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20:42:57 [MSM]
Kumar, Ginny, I've now checked in a fresh version of prettyprintxml.xsl
20:43:16 [MSM]
If you refresh and re-build, I think the schemas will have the required namespace declarations.
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