IRC log of sml on 2009-01-29
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/29-sml-irc
- 19:01:53 [lencharest]
- How do I ask zakim who is on the line?
- 19:01:55 [johnarwe_]
- rrsagent, make log public
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- zakim, who is here?
- 19:02:00 [Zakim]
- sorry, johnarwe_, I don't know what conference this is
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Kirk, lencharest, johnarwe_, trackbot, MSM
- 19:02:12 [johnarwe_]
- zakim, this is sml
- 19:02:12 [Zakim]
- ok, johnarwe_; that matches XML_SMLWG()2:00PM
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- +johnarwe_
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- zakim, please call MSM-617
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- ok, MSM; the call is being made
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- +MSM
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- 19:03:03 [lencharest]
- zakim, who is here?
- 19:03:03 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Kirk, Sandy, [Microsoft], johnarwe_, MSM
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- On IRC I see Sandy, RRSAgent, Zakim, Kirk, lencharest, johnarwe_, trackbot, MSM
- 19:03:14 [lencharest]
- zakim, [Microsoft] is lencharest
- 19:03:14 [Zakim]
- +lencharest; got it
- 19:03:25 [Kirk]
- chair: John Arwe
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- + +1.425.836.aaaa
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- zakim, aaaa is kiumar
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- +kiumar; got it
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- zakim, kiumar is kumar
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- +kumar; got it
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- +Ginny_Smith
- 19:08:33 [Kirk]
- Topic: Approval of minutes 1/22
- 19:08:38 [Kirk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0065.html
- 19:09:09 [lencharest]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/att-0058/20090122-sml-minutes.html
- 19:10:01 [Kirk]
- RESOLUTION: No objections to accepting minutes
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- TOPIC: No Change to CG
- 19:10:42 [Kirk]
- We are not attending F2F week of Feb 23
- 19:10:55 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: Action Items
- 19:11:54 [Kirk]
- MSM hopes to have action items closed by EOB tomorrow
- 19:12:30 [Kirk]
- Except for AI 190 (lax fallback) will not be complete. John will close this AI.
- 19:12:48 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: Change of Meeting Team
- 19:13:14 [Kirk]
- We will decide to see what progress is today to decide whether we should meet again on this coming Monday.
- 19:13:32 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: Farewell to MSM
- 19:14:58 [Kirk]
- Tomorrow will be MSM's last day as a member of the Team.
- 19:15:38 [ginny_]
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- 19:15:54 [Kirk]
- John expressed appreciation for MSM contributions to the working group.
- 19:16:32 [Kirk]
- MSM expressed belief that Henry will due well, and we will be happy with Henry as well.
- 19:16:51 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: New Work
- 19:17:07 [Kirk]
- No new bugs
- 19:18:11 [Kirk]
- MSM reports that issue regarding the length of the code lines as been resolved. That bug can be closed.
- 19:20:13 [Kirk]
- Kumar: Will correct documents to "PR" version.
- 19:20:44 [Kirk]
- Ginny: There is nothing left to fix with latest correction. Kumar can go ahead and fix the document.
- 19:21:33 [johnarwe_]
- A. SML-IF Schema
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- <xi:include></xi:include>
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- B. Localization of IF Identity Sample (Non-Normative)
- 19:21:33 [Kirk]
- John: Points out the SML-IF doc has no copyright date; missing schema in SML.
- 19:22:25 [johnarwe_]
- Actually you have them reversed Kirk... SML schema has no copyright date, SMLIF schema is xi:include
- 19:23:57 [MSM]
- http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2007/xml/sml/build/sml.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8#SML_schema
- 19:25:37 [ginny_]
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- 19:27:39 [Kirk]
- Ginny: Editors need to check that schemas are present when they do a rebuild.
- 19:28:19 [Kirk]
- Ginny will close 5492. Change target to PR.
- 19:29:37 [Kirk]
- Issue 6260:
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- Kumar will review this issue.
- 19:30:37 [Kirk]
- http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6260
- 19:31:08 [Kirk]
- MSM: Changes 1, 2, 3 are now incorporated in SML & SML-IF
- 19:31:21 [Kirk]
- ...Change 4 is no longer necessary.
- 19:32:32 [Kirk]
- John: Reports the has covered this in his draft.
- 19:32:41 [johnarwe_]
- this=5
- 19:33:28 [Kirk]
- Kumar: Reports that he wil cover change 6. Kumar will close bug.
- 19:33:58 [Kirk]
- Issue 5680: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=5680
- 19:35:12 [Kirk]
- Ginny has provided diff file.
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- Len: Appendix F, offset paragraph, #1, too many "is"s. Ginny will remove one of the "is"s.
- 19:41:46 [Kirk]
- Kumar: Recommends using "PR" when checking this in to invoke the PR rules.
- 19:42:10 [Kirk]
- John: Agrees,
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- MSM: Wishes there were a better solution to this problem within W3C.
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- Ginny: Ch
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- Ginny: Checking this in, Feb 12, 2009, with "PR".
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- John: Any further changes to 5680? Any objections to marking 5680 as Editorial? Any need for "Needs Review"?
- 19:46:30 [Kirk]
- RESOLUTION: No Objections to any of these proposal. Ginny updates the issue.
- 19:46:48 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: Review of PR Transition Request Draft
- 19:47:31 [johnarwe_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/att-0077/SML_PR_Transition_request.htm
- 19:49:38 [ginny_]
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- 19:50:06 [Kirk]
- John: URIs refer to dates that we expect.
- 19:50:30 [johnarwe_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/att-0077/SML_PR_Transition_request.htm
- 19:51:06 [Kirk]
- John: On MSMs recommendation, John needs to add URI to current version.
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- RESOLUTION: Consensus without objection to the proposed publication date.
- 19:53:52 [Kirk]
- John reviews text and any changes to the text.
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- ...Implementation Information is a new section. No comments on this section.
- 19:56:59 [Kirk]
- ...Document Status has changes. Reviews changes.
- 19:57:45 [Kirk]
- ...Editors are allowed to readd the sentence what is striked-out if it is necessary to get the PubRules to run.
- 19:59:37 [ginny_]
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- Kumar: Suggests moving sentences. John suggests moving Teil paragraph after "(XML) Activity"
- 20:02:13 [Kirk]
- RESOLUTION: No further changes appear to be necessary. Consensus on content of the Transition Request.
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- TOPIC: Implementation Reports
- 20:03:52 [Kirk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2009Jan/0059.html
- 20:04:23 [johnarwe_]
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/SMLPRFeatureImplementationReport.html
- 20:04:32 [Kirk]
- Feature Implementation Report:
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- MSM: Suggests using color backgrounds for Results.
- 20:07:08 [johnarwe_]
- impl results: file:///C:/ARWE/Standards/SML/Temp/SMLPRTestCaseImplementationResults.html
- 20:07:15 [Kirk]
- Implementation Results
- 20:07:19 [johnarwe_]
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/SMLPRTestCaseImplementationResults.html
- 20:09:17 [Kirk]
- John: Yellow means the tests are not committed by COSMOS to CVS, but they have been run by COSMOS.
- 20:10:47 [Kirk]
- No further comments on Implementation Results
- 20:11:20 [Kirk]
- TOPIC: SML Diffs Attecting performance
- 20:11:22 [johnarwe_]
- SML diffs: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2007/xml/sml/extra/sml-diff-between-CR-and-PR.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8
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- 20:11:39 [johnarwe_]
- http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2007/xml/sml/extra/sml-diff-between-CR-and-PR.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8
- 20:15:59 [Kirk]
- MSM: Points out that Appendix B of SML needs to be run through style sheet.
- 20:17:11 [Kirk]
- John: Notes that the namespaces names have disappeared from the schema in Appendix A. MSM will try to fix. (Editors may need to manually fix this.)
- 20:19:45 [johnarwe_]
- SMLIF http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2007/xml/sml/extra/sml-if-diff-between-CR-and-PR.html?content-type=text/html;%20charset=utf-8
- 20:19:49 [Kirk]
- RESOLUTION: No other problems in the SML spec.
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- John: Same namespace binding issue on the SML-IF schema.
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- -Sandy
- 20:30:03 [Kirk]
- RESOLUTION: No other problems in the SML-IF schema.
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- TOPIC: Meeting this Monday 02/02
- 20:33:04 [Kirk]
- Possible topics: Review of the two Notes.
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- NOTE: Kirk expresses regrets regarding meeting 02/02.
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- John: Team is not ready to review Notes on Monday, given the need to do final editing.
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- DECISION: Cancel 02/02 meeting. Resume 02/09. Topic: Discuss changes to Notes.
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- John: Because of schedule transition meeting with Director, we may need to push out the publication date to the 19th.
- 20:36:53 [Kirk]
- RESOLUTION: No objections to allowing this change of date of publication date.
- 20:38:07 [Kirk]
- Len: Delete original Word docs from CVS, not part of revision history.
- 20:38:29 [Kirk]
- ...No objections noted.
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- -kumar
- 20:39:26 [Kirk]
- Adjournment: 3:38 pm ET
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- -lencharest
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- -Ginny_Smith
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- -MSM
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- -johnarwe_
- 20:39:45 [Kirk]
- rrsaagent, generate minutes
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 20:40:03 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/29-sml-minutes.html Kirk
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- -Kirk
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- XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Kirk, Sandy, johnarwe_, MSM, lencharest, +1.425.836.aaaa, kumar, Ginny_Smith
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- 20:42:57 [MSM]
- Kumar, Ginny, I've now checked in a fresh version of prettyprintxml.xsl
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- If you refresh and re-build, I think the schemas will have the required namespace declarations.
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