W3C

WAI TSDTF

27 Jan 2009

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
CarlosI, Shadi, Christophe, MichaelC, CarlosV, Tim
Regrets
Chair
CarlosV, Christophe
Scribe
Shadi

Contents


Web interface for displaying test samples

<Christophe> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/Overview

CS: Shadi updated the mockups
... the search page

http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/simple

SAZ: may need additional tweaks based on experience from using the search functions
... may also use some wording and presentation tweaks, maybe EOWG can help
... for now, is this the functionality that we want?
... we had talked about categorizing Techniques or Test Samples into "automatable" or not
... is this a priority to consider now?

CS: we used to have this information in the BenToWeb metadata

<Christophe> Automatable or not: see testMode element in TCDL: http://www.bentoweb.org/refs/TCDL2.0.html#edef-testmode

TB: we have information on the Technology, may also help selecting tests

SAZ: what kind of information is key for tool developers?

MC: all information, with the metadata, and let me deal with it myself

CV: agree with michael

CS: all tests regardless if automatable or not?

CV: yes. want information about automatable or not but want everything

MC: might have my own definition of what's automatable or not

TB: agree

SAZ: there is the "view format" feature
... seems that this may be most useful
... may need to better highlight it or explain it

CS: techniques and technology features will be pretty long
... might be a problem to select

SAZ: ideally scripting could help pre-select these based on other criteria
... anyone has ideas for addressing this?

RESOLUTION: mockups accepted, SAZ to start implementing functionality

<scribe> ACTION: Shadi to add issue on AJAX scripting on the search interface into tracker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-25 - Add issue on AJAX scripting on the search interface into tracker [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-02-03].

<scribe> ACTION: shadi to ask shawn if we can bring these mockups into EOWG for additional feedback (from an educational perspective) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Ask shawn if we can bring these mockups into EOWG for additional feedback (from an educational perspective) [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-02-03].

<Christophe> CarlosI's review: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2009Jan/0009.html

CS: want to review that status of where we are
... CarlosI researched and summarized the situation

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2009Jan/0011.html

SAZ: seems that #26 is out of synch, what are you proposing to change?

CS: expand the table to make summary attribute more useful

SAZ: so change the sample file to align it with the purpose/description?

CS: yes

<scribe> ACTION: christophe to update the sample files for test #26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Update the sample files for test #26 [on Christophe Strobbe - due 2009-02-03].

CS: #36 and #41 have same issue, we have dummy page to avod 404 that is outside the naming convention

CI: two option, using a single dummy file or use one per test case

CS: have a duplicate for each test anyway, just doesn't follow the naming convention

SAZ: see no reason why

<scribe> ACTION: christophe to change names of the dummy pages for #36 and #41, to follow the naming convention [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-28 - Change names of the dummy pages for #36 and #41, to follow the naming convention [on Christophe Strobbe - due 2009-02-03].

<Christophe> status list: http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList

CS: test samples need review
... should we start reviewing or should we wait for the automation?

SAZ: will take some time until the WG tool is ready
... may be better to do some manual reviewing

CS: even if people did 10 reviews per week it would still take until March 2010 to finish all the tests currently in the repository

SAZ: primarily Michael, CarlosI, and Tim for now
... available to do reviews?

MC: overhead so difficult that it takes too much time
... have trouble getting my head around the actual reviews

SAZ: concludes that the WG tool has much higher priority now

CS: maybe more than the public web interface

SAZ: think that at least the draft mockups are important to show our work and potentially recruit participation
... but now need to put more focus on the WG tool

New time slot?

CS: maybe a new time might make it more easy for folks in north america to attend

MC: is there a request?

SAZ: any known conflicts?
... let's defer until have a real need

Next meeting: 10 February 2009

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: christophe to change names of the dummy pages for #36 and #41, to follow the naming convention [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: christophe to update the sample files for test #26 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Shadi to add issue on AJAX scripting on the search interface into tracker [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: shadi to ask shawn if we can bring these mockups into EOWG for additional feedback (from an educational perspective) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-tsdtf-minutes.html#action02]
 
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