IRC log of wai-wcag on 2009-01-22
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/22-wai-wcag-irc
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- rrsagent, make log world
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- meeting: WCAG
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- agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/824e742c0901161416m2fb45561h9c634c936a65216c@mail.gmail.com
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- agenda+ Life after Rec
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- agenda+ Post-Rec Charter
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- agenda+ Proposal for handling WCAG 2 questions and issues
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- agenda+ Meeting Schedule
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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- +David_MacDonald
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- zakim, call cooper-mit
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- ok, MichaelC; the call is being made
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- +Cooper
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- + +1.410.757.aaaa
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- zakim, +1.410 is Drew_LaHart
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- +Drew_LaHart; got it
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- regrets: Roberto_Scano
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- +??P7
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- 21:02:21 [mbertoni]
- zakim, ??P7 is mbertoni
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- +mbertoni; got it
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- +??P8
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- -??P8
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- +Alex_Li
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- + +1.415.373.aabb
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- zakim, +1.415 is Sofia_Celic
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- +Sofia_Celic; got it
- 21:04:15 [mbertoni]
- zakim, mute me
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- mbertoni should now be muted
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- +??P8
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- zakim, ??P8 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- zakim, Gregg has Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +Tim_Boland
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- + +1.301.668.aacc
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- agenda?
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- zakim, +1.301 is Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey; got it
- 21:08:04 [Tim]
- Topic: life after Rec
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Process for responding for questions directed at editors" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- scirbe: Tim
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- scribe: Tim
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- +??P11
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- zakim, ??P11 is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
- 21:10:52 [Tim]
- need to renew charter
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- maintaining understanding doc
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- Post Rec Tasks: http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Post_Recommendation_Tasks
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- +[Microsoft]
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- q+
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- ack MichaelC
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- work in TSDTF within WCAG scope
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- ack me
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- collaborate with ERTWG via the TSDTF in their efforts to create a test suite for evaluation tools
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- updated Post Rec Tasks in wiki -> http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Post_Recommendation_Tasks
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
- 21:23:51 [Tim]
- extent of collaboration with other organizations on future work (re: WCAG outreach)
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- work with PFWG on ARIA techniques
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- +[Microsoft]
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- +??P1
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- zakim, ?PP1 is Roberto_Ellero
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- sorry, rellero_, I do not recognize a party named '?PP1'
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- 04 01zakim, ?P1 is Roberto_Ellero
- 21:26:57 [Tim]
- promoting WCAG2.0 is important
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- 04 01zakim, ?P1 is Roberto_Ellero
- 21:27:46 [Tim]
- ack Cynthia
- 21:27:49 [Loretta]
- ack c
- 21:28:14 [Drew]
- q+
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- application notes and adding more techniques (including scripting)
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- ack d
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- 04 01zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Ellero
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- +??P3
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- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
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- sorry, rscano, I do not see a party named 'Roberto_Scano'
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- zakim, ??P3 is Roberto_Scano
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- +Roberto_Scano; got it
- 21:30:09 [rscano]
- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
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- ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
- 21:30:22 [rellero_]
- 04 01zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Ellero
- 21:30:26 [Tim]
- checklists to measure WCAG2.0 understanding
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- 04 01zakim, ?PP1 is Roberto Ellero
- 21:31:08 [rscano]
- zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
- 21:31:08 [Tim]
- make it easier to submit techniques/ideas
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- outreach efforts needed (for example to governments)
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- +??P16
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- tools for outreach needed (public relations, workshops, media, etc.)
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- agree
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- may involve collaboration with EO
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- WCAG2.0 being examined in conjunction with 508 refresh
- 21:38:56 [rscano]
- we will also start a review of italian law (hope in february) for conform to WCAG 2.0
- 21:39:08 [MichaelC]
- q+ to ask if we need "train the trainer" resources, even workshops
- 21:39:18 [Tim]
- ack MichaelC
- 21:39:18 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, you wanted to ask if we need "train the trainer" resources, even workshops
- 21:39:36 [Loretta]
- ack m
- 21:40:17 [Ben_]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 21:40:28 [Zakim]
- Ben_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mbertoni (4%)
- 21:40:44 [Loretta]
- mute mbertoni
- 21:40:47 [David_MacDonald]
- zakim, who is making noice
- 21:40:47 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is making noice', David_MacDonald
- 21:40:47 [mbertoni]
- zakim, mute me
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- mbertoni should now be muted
- 21:41:04 [Tim]
- people have written books after specs in other WGs
- 21:42:15 [David_MacDonald]
- zakim, who's making noise?
- 21:42:26 [Zakim]
- David_MacDonald, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
- 21:42:26 [Tim]
- focus on techniques/testing tools in this group
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- online seminar to promote understanding in addition?
- 21:44:54 [rscano]
- zakim, unmute me
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- Roberto_Scano should no longer be muted
- 21:45:53 [mbertoni]
- agree
- 21:46:16 [Tim]
- promote understanding of guidelines/techniques
- 21:46:47 [Loretta]
- zakim, who is on the phone
- 21:46:47 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is on the phone', Loretta
- 21:48:51 [Tim]
- have list of things we can do (prioritize list?)
- 21:48:54 [MichaelC]
- q+ to ask if we want to resurrect the break-out teams to do tasks, and have plenary meetings less, as maybe we don't need to make consensus decisions as much
- 21:49:20 [Tim]
- ack MichaelC
- 21:49:20 [Zakim]
- MichaelC, you wanted to ask if we want to resurrect the break-out teams to do tasks, and have plenary meetings less, as maybe we don't need to make consensus decisions as much
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- tasks related to items on list
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- have TSDTF come to WCAG and report
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- make survey of different tasks and ask for participation
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- ..also time commitment/resources
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- third-party techniques important
- 21:58:22 [David_MacDonald]
- q+
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- ack David
- 21:59:47 [rscano]
- and create a VPAT-like for the other technologies?
- 21:59:48 [Tim]
- how to open WCAG to other technologies
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- with approval of W3C?
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- should recruit more potential WG members to work on tasks in future
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- Topic: handling WCAG2 questions and issues
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- process needed for handling questions/issues
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- editorial items send to MC
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- other questions should be answered and documented
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- additional items may relate to understanding doc - filed as issues?
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- may involve overhead but keeping WG connected
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- other category is technical support
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- point to forums in these cases
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- ..preferably neutral forums
- 22:12:16 [rscano]
- a ning :-)
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- ack Bruce
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- -Drew_LaHart
- 22:15:35 [Tim]
- use gl list
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- gl list needs to focus on wg activities
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- quality of support may be issue on external lists
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- frequency of meetings - how often?
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- depends on results of survey
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- need mechanism for keeping energy going into work to do (also need deadlines for motivation)
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- next meeting Feb 5
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- my birthday :D
- 22:25:12 [Tim]
- ACTION: MC to create draft WCAG charter for review
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- ACTION: Loretta to create survey of activity areas
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- -Alex_Li
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- -??P16
- 22:26:16 [mbertoni]
- bye
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- -Bengt_Farre
- 22:26:24 [rscano]
- bye :)
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- -Tim_Boland
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- -mbertoni
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- -Roberto_Scano
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Cooper
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Cynthia_Shelly
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were David_MacDonald, Cooper, +1.410.757.aaaa, Drew_LaHart, mbertoni, Alex_Li, +1.415.373.aabb, Sofia_Celic, Ben_Caldwell, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Tim_Boland,
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- ... +1.301.668.aacc, Bruce_Bailey, Bengt_Farre, Cynthia_Shelly, Roberto_Ellero, Roberto_Scano
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