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<GregC> I guess GregC is first on the scribe list
<GregC> and willing?
<GregC> Tag, I'm it.
<Bob> scribe: Greg Carpenter
<GregC> I'm am trying to get to the FAQ., but experiencing some delays ...
<dug> how do I get the link to the minutes/rssagent?
<dug> thanks
<dug> Geoff "holds" Asir??
<dug> too much info :-)
<gpilz> finally found an IRC client that can work with Oracle's proxy
<Vikas> This is Vikas
<dug> LOL we need webconf :-)
<GregC> The agenda is available at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Jan/0045.html
<GregC> The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
<GregC> s/teh/the
<dug> I believe Greg was suckered into that one!
<GregC> add "unilateral wihtdrawal of issues" to the agenda
<GregC> People need more time to read and approve minutes from f2f
<GregC> bob: I wont be able chair
<GregC> bob: should we cancel or have Yves chair?
<GregC> Meeting will be held as planned, Yves will chair
<GregC> bob: Editors should use CVS to avoid "lost updates" from multiple editors
<GregC> Editors need to get Public Keys if they don't already have one
<GregC> bob: first drafts in W3C format with no changes
<GregC> bob: who will produce which first working drafts and when
<GregC> dug: are there conversion tools and should we use them?
<GregC> asir: conversion tools are avialable but still require significant manual effort
<dug> yves which doc were you thinking of?
<GregC> Yves: Perhaps some subnissions are already up to spec and will be easier?
<GregC> bob: In two weeks time, all submitted specs will be converted and available in xml spec format
<GregC> bob: specs may come out independently during that time
<GregC> bob: people will be given adequate time to review
<GregC> ACTION: editors will have first Public Working drafts available on or before Feb 3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-ws-ra-minutes.html#action01]
<asir> Yves - you probably want to think about a Tracker user named 'editors'
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<Yves> tracker not associated to irc yet, but we can the web interface for now
<GregC> bob: some WGs find a primer to be a useful aid to understanding the specs
<GregC> bob: Shall the WS-RA WG produce a primer?
<GregC> ??: One Primer per spec, or just one Primer?
<dug> While I think, in general, primers are good, until we have an area of confusion I'd prefer to wait
<GregC> bob: Is there anyone on this call who is willing to write a Primer?
<GregC> gpilz: maybe
<dug> my first choice would be to have areas of confusion be fixed in the spec
<GregC> GregC: Primers are for wordy explanations that might not be appropriate for a spec
<GregC> gpilz: tend to agree -- good place for use cases, etc
<Yves> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6442
<GregC> Issue 6442
<GregC> bob: any opposition to accepting issue 6442?
<GregC> bob: Accepted without opposition
<GregC> bob: Issue assigned to gpilz
<GregC> bob: I assume the open question in the initial issue will be addressed with a more specific proposal
<GregC> Geoff: Note that this is another example of the larger upgrade to support WS-Addressing REC
<GregC> Geoff: do we have lots of individual issues (which is OK, just asking)
<Prasad2> +1 to having separate issues, helps focus the issue to specific area or matter
<dug> bob - there's 6459
<dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6459
<GregC> bob: granularity is up to the issue submitter
<GregC> new issue 6459
<gpilz> good catch!
<GregC> bob: issue 6459 accepted without opposition and assigned to Li
<dug> this is the _easy_ one you mentioned at the f2f :-)
<Bob> scribe: Bob
<Prasad2> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6433
ITopic: Issue-6433
proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Jan/0041.html
<dug> backbones?
<gregcarp> Can you see me now?
<gpilz> +1 to Doug
<gpilz> +q
<dug> LOL
<Prasad2> So, the WS-A:EPR definition has no extensibility built in?
<gpilz> EPR's have extensibility in them
Bob: The extensibility facet of this issue was decided at the f2f to be separate from the decision of which version of epr to reference
<gpilz> +q
resolution: Resolve Issue-6433 with the proposal contained in Bugzilla Comment #1 w/o
<dug> latest 6398: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Jan/0043.html
<Prasad2> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6398
<dug> no objection to more digestion/composting :-)
<asir> what was that :-)
send to the list and defer consideration for a future meeting
<dug> since this was pretty much covered at the f2f I wouldn't object to accepting it now - but no objection to composting either :-)
proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Jan/0047.html
Li introduces his proposal
<gpilz> I wouldn't object to accepting it either - good work
Li introduces his prosal
<gpilz> again this looks acceptable
Originator wishes to withdraw these issues
resolution: Gudge 6408 6409 6410 6414 6415 6416 w/o
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