IRC log of swd on 2009-01-20

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15:52:15 [TomB]
rrsagent, bookmark
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See http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T15-52-15
15:52:20 [TomB]
zakim, this will be swd
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ok, TomB; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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Meeting: SWD WG
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Chair: Tom
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rrsagent, please make record public
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jan/0051.html
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Previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-swd-minutes.html
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Regrets: Daniel, Margherita, Ed
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SW_SWD()11:00AM has now started
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+??P5
15:56:35 [TomB]
zakim, ??p5 is me
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+TomB; got it
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+Ralph
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zakim, who is on the call?
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On the phone I see TomB, Ralph
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+Antoine_Isaac
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+josema
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zakim, josema is me
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+berrueta; got it
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scribenick:Antoine
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-minutes.html Ralph
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+??P36
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zakim, ??P36 is me
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+seanb; got it
16:08:53 [Antoine]
Tom: this is the 96th teleconf!
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Topic: ADMIN
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RESOLVED to accept minutes of last teleconference http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-swd-minutes.html
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Topic: RDFA
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ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
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Topic: RECIPES
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ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
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ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
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Topic: RDFa METADATA NOTE
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ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
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Topic: AOB
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CTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10]
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Topic: SKOS
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ACTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10]
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Topic: SKOS
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ACTION: Guus to report on usage of SKOS in vocabularies at VU for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action09]
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ACTION: Sean to report on SKOSED for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action10]
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Tom: transition request?
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Ralph: it's in progress
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... we made the request, and are waiting for the answer
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Tom: will the answer come in the form of an announcement that the docs have been published?
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Ralph: yes
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Tom: I wanted to have a discussion on mapping relationships
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... but Alistair is not here
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Ralph: would somebody be ready to start an implementation template?
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Tom: Guus said that someone of his group was working on that
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Sean: I looked at previous impl. rep. ...
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... when we don't have tests it's not easy to write
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Tom: it could start next week
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Tom: I suggest we adjourn today
16:17:36 [Ralph]
Tom: next meeting next week (27 Feb)
16:17:49 [Ralph]
Antoine: I had a question from a colleague about use of rdfs:label
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... we don't say anything in Reference about rdfs:label or rdfs:comment
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s/rdfs:label/skos:note
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Antoine: did we consider making all the notes subproperty of rdfs:comment ?
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Sean: no, but I don't think it would break anything
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... skos:note is an AnnotationProperty now
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... so we could easily add the subProperty relationship from skos:note to rdfs:comment
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Antoine: if we wanted to consider this, would it be a big change?
16:21:36 [Ralph]
Ralph: I advise against the WG adding that unilaterally. Would be better if CR implementors or users initiated a discussion on a mailing list suggesting "it would be nice if ..."
16:22:11 [Ralph]
Sean: we could record this as a placeholder for future consideration
16:23:08 [Ralph]
... feels like a useful issue to log as 'postpone'
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Tom: I wonder whether it is appropriate to raise issue after CR request
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... theoretically issues can come up from the community
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.. there's no formal rule barring us to raise one
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Tom: any other issues?
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... meeting is adjourned
16:26:29 [Zakim]
-seanb
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-minutes.html Ralph
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-berrueta
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-TomB
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-Antoine_Isaac
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-Ralph
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SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were TomB, Ralph, Antoine_Isaac, berrueta, seanb
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-minutes.html Ralph
16:27:26 [Ralph]
zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-10-05
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ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-10-28
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ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-10-41
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ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-11-12
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ACTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10] [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-12-24
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ACTION: Guus to report on usage of SKOS in vocabularies at VU for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action09] [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-12-58
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ACTION: Sean to report on SKOSED for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action10] [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-13-13