15:52:10 RRSAgent has joined #swd 15:52:10 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc 15:52:15 rrsagent, bookmark 15:52:15 See http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T15-52-15 15:52:20 zakim, this will be swd 15:52:20 ok, TomB; I see SW_SWD()11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes 15:52:26 Meeting: SWD WG 15:52:30 Chair: Tom 15:52:47 rrsagent, please make record public 15:52:59 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jan/0051.html 15:53:09 Previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-swd-minutes.html 15:53:27 Regrets: Daniel, Margherita, Ed 15:56:20 SW_SWD()11:00AM has now started 15:56:27 +??P5 15:56:35 zakim, ??p5 is me 15:56:35 +TomB; got it 15:58:54 Ralph has joined #swd 16:00:51 +Ralph 16:01:19 zakim, who is on the call? 16:01:19 On the phone I see TomB, Ralph 16:02:27 Antoine has joined #swd 16:03:48 +Antoine_Isaac 16:05:19 seanb has joined #swd 16:06:01 +josema 16:06:16 zakim, josema is me 16:06:17 +berrueta; got it 16:07:18 scribenick:Antoine 16:07:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-minutes.html Ralph 16:07:36 +??P36 16:07:42 zakim, ??P36 is me 16:07:42 +seanb; got it 16:08:53 Tom: this is the 96th teleconf! 16:09:09 Topic: ADMIN 16:09:39 RESOLVED to accept minutes of last teleconference http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-swd-minutes.html 16:09:45 Topic: RDFA 16:10:05 ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] 16:10:10 --CONTINUES 16:10:19 Topic: RECIPES 16:10:28 ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] 16:10:32 --CONTINUES 16:10:41 ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] 16:10:45 --CONTINUES 16:11:04 Topic: RDFa METADATA NOTE 16:11:12 ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] 16:11:16 --CONTINUES 16:11:28 Topic: AOB 16:11:36 CTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10] 16:11:40 --CONTINUES 16:11:46 Topic: SKOS 16:12:24 ACTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10] 16:12:28 --CONTINUES 16:12:48 Topic: SKOS 16:12:58 ACTION: Guus to report on usage of SKOS in vocabularies at VU for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action09] 16:13:04 --CONTINUES 16:13:13 ACTION: Sean to report on SKOSED for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action10] 16:13:15 --CONTINUES 16:13:26 Tom: transition request? 16:13:33 Ralph: it's in progress 16:13:50 ... we made the request, and are waiting for the answer 16:14:12 Tom: will the answer come in the form of an announcement that the docs have been published? 16:14:15 Ralph: yes 16:14:42 Tom: I wanted to have a discussion on mapping relationships 16:14:46 ... but Alistair is not here 16:15:25 Ralph: would somebody be ready to start an implementation template? 16:15:40 Tom: Guus said that someone of his group was working on that 16:15:56 Sean: I looked at previous impl. rep. ... 16:16:14 ... when we don't have tests it's not easy to write 16:16:45 Tom: it could start next week 16:17:03 Tom: I suggest we adjourn today 16:17:36 Tom: next meeting next week (27 Feb) 16:17:49 Antoine: I had a question from a colleague about use of rdfs:label 16:18:06 ... we don't say anything in Reference about rdfs:label or rdfs:comment 16:18:27 s/rdfs:label/skos:note 16:19:30 Antoine: did we consider making all the notes subproperty of rdfs:comment ? 16:19:37 Sean: no, but I don't think it would break anything 16:19:46 ... skos:note is an AnnotationProperty now 16:20:05 ... so we could easily add the subProperty relationship from skos:note to rdfs:comment 16:20:22 Antoine: if we wanted to consider this, would it be a big change? 16:21:36 Ralph: I advise against the WG adding that unilaterally. Would be better if CR implementors or users initiated a discussion on a mailing list suggesting "it would be nice if ..." 16:22:11 Sean: we could record this as a placeholder for future consideration 16:23:08 ... feels like a useful issue to log as 'postpone' 16:23:43 Tom: I wonder whether it is appropriate to raise issue after CR request 16:23:58 ... theoretically issues can come up from the community 16:24:44 .. there's no formal rule barring us to raise one 16:26:11 Tom: any other issues? 16:26:27 ... meeting is adjourned 16:26:29 -seanb 16:26:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-minutes.html Ralph 16:26:36 -berrueta 16:27:06 -TomB 16:27:08 -Antoine_Isaac 16:27:09 -Ralph 16:27:09 Antoine has left #swd 16:27:10 SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended 16:27:11 Attendees were TomB, Ralph, Antoine_Isaac, berrueta, seanb 16:27:20 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-minutes.html Ralph 16:27:26 zakim, bye 16:27:26 Zakim has left #swd 16:27:53 rrsagent, bye 16:27:53 I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-actions.rdf : 16:27:53 ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [1] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-10-05 16:27:53 ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] [2] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-10-28 16:27:53 ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [3] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-10-41 16:27:53 ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] [4] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-11-12 16:27:53 ACTION: Guus to look at OWL documents for review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-swd-minutes.html#action10] [5] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-12-24 16:27:53 ACTION: Guus to report on usage of SKOS in vocabularies at VU for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action09] [6] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-12-58 16:27:53 ACTION: Sean to report on SKOSED for SKOS implementation report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-swd-minutes.html#action10] [7] 16:27:53 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/20-swd-irc#T16-13-13