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01:09:18 anyone here working with the ARIA folk on the spec that defines the generic terms for html5 to plug into?
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04:51:08 http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2009/01/post31_plans.html
04:51:10 Title: Well, I'm Back: Post-3.1 Plans (at weblogs.mozillazine.org)
04:51:56 "Brian Birtles and Daniel Holbert have massively cleaned up and simplified the SMIL patch so that it's ready for landing. This is just the basic SMIL infrastructure --- considerably more work is required to implement all the features of SVG Animation --- but it's a great base to build on."
04:52:47 yum
04:55:26 yay!
05:03:09 MikeSmith: you saw this? http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20090114-nokia-qt-lgpl-switch-huge-win-for-cross-platform-development.html
05:03:22 yep
05:04:06 they're also making read access to their source repository public
05:05:29 and (I think) putting into place some mechanism for enabling chosen non-Trolltech/Nokia committers
05:05:47 similar to WebKit project
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05:11:26 shepazu: also, Qt 4.5 ships with the Qt WebKit port as an integrated component
05:12:51 so I'd imagine the adoption of LPGL for Qt could mean that WebKit will show up a few more places than it has so far
05:14:02 sweet, MikeSmith
05:16:02 yeah, I know I'm sweet.
05:16:12 sweet like sorghum molasses
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05:18:27 3 moles are climbing out of a mole-hole during a picnic... top mole says, I smell honey ... middle mole says, I smell maple syrup... bottom mole says, I only smell molasses
05:23:18 shepazu: I think that joke should be title "Missouri Wisdom"
05:23:49 MikeSmith: well, I heard it from a guy from Mississippi, just recently
05:24:01 same thing
05:24:36 It's all one big happy extended family down there
05:25:15 ok, jetpack... where are you from again?
05:25:35 Nishi-Shinjuku
05:25:43 right next to Chuo-koen
05:26:15 I thought you were from Ala-bama
05:27:42 I lived in Montgomery for 1 year
05:28:10 then I lived in Ohio for a while
05:28:25 later in Texas
05:28:28 that alabama stink must still be on you, son
05:30:20 Texas is actually a separate country, and native Texans allow the rest of the US to consider it a state
05:31:07 don't I wish!
05:31:46 they can have that hick-hole
05:31:48 even austin and san antonio aren't enough to redeem it
05:31:51 I've lived in texas
05:32:30 we should give it back to mexico, as punishment for letting so many immigrants leave their country
05:33:46 although I do like parts of west texas, like palo dura canyon
05:41:18 http://cameronmoll.com/archives/2009/01/12_resources_for_html5/
05:41:21 Title: 12 resources for getting a jump on HTML 5 ~ Authentic Boredom (at cameronmoll.com)
05:46:26 "So far from what I’m learning, the consensus among several of these articles seems to be this: The world isn’t ready for HTML 5 at large just yet, but we can begin preparing for it by using common, semantic selector names"
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06:26:34 http://ajaxian.com/archives/chris-wilson-interview-on-tech-luminaries
06:26:35 Title: Ajaxian » Chris Wilson interview on Tech Luminaries (at ajaxian.com)
06:29:11 http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2009/01/changes-for-jaiku-and-farewell-to.html
06:29:22 Title: Google Code Blog: Changes for Jaiku and Farewell to Dodgeball and Mashup Editor (at google-code-updates.blogspot.com)
06:31:59 "we are in the process of porting Jaiku over to Google App Engine. After the migration is complete, we will release the new open source Jaiku Engine project on Google Code under the Apache License... With the open source Jaiku Engine project, organizations, groups and individuals will be able to roll-their-own microblogging services and deploy them on Google App Engine. The new Jaiku Engine will include support for OAuth"
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09:49:47 bugmail: "[Bug 6438] New: Error in step 9.4 of the internal algorithm for scanning and assigning header cells" (1 message in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0020.html> 4** "[Bug 6437] New: document.location should update when the browsing context is navigated without the Document changing" ( message in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0019.html>
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12:46:05 planet: Using WAI ARIA Landmark Roles <11http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=106>
12:52:03 bugmail: "[Bug 6440] New: To which elements applies the formatBlock command?" (1 message in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0022.html> 4** "[Bug 6439] New: should stringify href (like )" (1 message in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0021.html>
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13:22:10 bugmail: "[Bug 6440] To which elements applies the formatBlock command?" (1 message in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0023.html>
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13:52:18 bugmail: "[Bug 6439] should stringify href (like )" (1 message in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jan/0024.html>
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14:27:11 that comment clearly missed the point
14:28:01 anne: which comment?
14:37:24 in bug 6439
14:41:04 gotta love public bug systems :)
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15:57:25 zakim, code?
15:58:47 the bot is not here
15:58:56 and it's an hour early
15:59:11 is it?
15:59:18 yep
15:59:19 trackbot, list
15:59:19 Sorry, MikeSmith, I don't understand 'trackbot, list'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
15:59:20 Title: IRC Trackbot (at www.w3.org)
15:59:36 oh, it is. sorry.
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15:59:49 Zakim, list
15:59:49 I see Math_IG()10:00AM, W3C_(W3F_TF)8:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM active
15:59:51 also scheduled at this time are Style_XSL FO()10:00AM, WS_WSRA()11:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, Team_Comm()11:00AM, GA_SVGIG()11:00AM, XML_PMWG()11:00AM, SW_RIF(F2F12)11:00AM,
15:59:57 ... IA_WebApps(Widgets)10:00AM, GA_WebCGM()11:00AM, INC_EMOXG()10:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM
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16:27:45 Lachy, will you dial in? I haven't been able to fix Skype
16:28:15 (I haven't put much effort into it yet, either, tbh)
16:32:31 is there a telcon on tonight?
16:32:43 yes, 30m
16:32:52 ok. I suppose I can call in
16:34:31 DanC has changed the topic to: HTML WG telcon 15 Jan 16:00Z http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0001.html ; This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/
16:36:18 close ACTION-92
16:36:18 ACTION-92 Ask Matt May if he can help represent WAI WGs in the HTML WG closed
16:36:30 ACTION-92: dup of ACTION-90
16:36:30 ACTION-92 Ask Matt May if he can help represent WAI WGs in the HTML WG notes added
16:37:22 action-90: Masinter 14 Jan http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0002.html
16:37:22 ACTION-90 Ask Matt May if he can help represent WAI WGs in the HTML WG notes added
16:37:23 Title: Action 90 & 92: Ask Matt May if he can help represent WAI WGs in the HTML WG - due 2009-01-15 - open from Larry Masinter on 2009-01-14 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from January to March 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
16:39:24 action-91: Ruby 8 Jan http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jan/0063.html
16:39:24 ACTION-91 Propose 'legacy-compat' and report on feedback notes added
16:39:25 Title: ISSUE-54: doctype-legacy-compat from Sam Ruby on 2009-01-08 (public-html@w3.org from January 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
16:39:40 Isn't the meeting at 17:00Z or am I confused about timezones?
16:40:20 agenda says 16:00Z ... checking the bridge reservation system...
16:41:00 DanC has changed the topic to: HTML WG telcon 15 Jan 17:00Z http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0001.html ; This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/
16:41:11 17:00 per http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_2715
16:41:50 jgraham, welcome to Linköping ;)
16:41:56 "12noon Boston time." -- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#telcon
16:41:57 Title: W3C HTML Working Group (at www.w3.org)
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16:46:06 action-75?
16:46:06 ACTION-75 -- Michael(tm) Smith to raise question to group about Yes, leave @profile out, No, re-add it -- and cite Hixie's summary of the discussion -- due 2009-02-19 -- OPEN
16:46:06 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/75
16:46:07 Title: ACTION-75 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:49:24 wanna give a new ETA on action-87? (semantics-tables)
16:50:30 action-29 due 2009-09-30
16:50:30 ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now 2009-09-30
16:51:06 trackbot, comment action-89 plan is to spec Origin header as an IETF Internet Draft, with Adam Barth as editor
16:51:06 ACTION-89 Make a proposal to the WebApps WG that we take this on as a work item there, with Adam Barth as the editor notes added
16:51:23 trackbot, close action-89
16:51:23 ACTION-89 Make a proposal to the WebApps WG that we take this on as a work item there, with Adam Barth as the editor closed
16:52:57 hmm... maybe mark 89 pending review rather than closed, so we can talk about who takes the ball next on ISSUE-63 origin-req-scope?
16:53:34 trackbot, comment action-87 Hixie responded; see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Dec/thread.html#msg175
16:53:34 ACTION-87 Ensure Ian Hickson follows up on semantics-tables messages notes added
16:53:35 Title: public-html@w3.org from December 2008: by thread (at lists.w3.org)
16:53:42 DanC: yep
16:54:26 cool. marked 63 open while I'm at it
16:54:59 action-89?
16:54:59 ACTION-89 -- Michael(tm) Smith to make a proposal to the WebApps WG that we take this on as a work item there, with Adam Barth as the editor -- due 2008-12-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:54:59 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/89
16:55:00 Title: ACTION-89 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:55:09 action-87?
16:55:09 ACTION-87 -- Michael(tm) Smith to ensure Ian Hickson follows up on semantics-tables messages -- due 2008-12-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
16:55:09 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/87
16:55:10 Title: ACTION-87 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:55:39 ACTION-87 due 20 Dec 2009
16:55:39 ACTION-87 Ensure Ian Hickson follows up on semantics-tables messages due date now 20 Dec 2009
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16:55:56 (date to match hixie's msg, for agenda sorting)
16:57:04 trackbot, start meeting
16:57:06 RRSAgent, make logs public
16:57:08 Zakim, this will be HTML
16:57:08 "HTML" matches HTML_WG()12:00PM, and Team_(html)16:00Z, trackbot
16:57:09 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:57:09 Date: 15 January 2009
16:57:17 DanC, hasn't Hixie done that already?
16:57:31 yup
16:58:05 action-89 due 6 Jan 2009
16:58:05 ACTION-89 Make a proposal to the WebApps WG that we take this on as a work item there, with Adam Barth as the editor due date now 6 Jan 2009
16:58:15 (that's when the plan was figured out, I think)
16:58:55 zakim, code?
16:58:55 sorry, Joshue, I don't know what conference this is
16:59:11 Zakim, this is html
16:59:11 ok, anne; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
16:59:19 Zakim, this will be HTML
16:59:19 ok, MikeSmith, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:59:33 - +049251280aaaa
16:59:41 +[Microsoft]
16:59:44 dsinger has joined #html-wg
17:00:01 -??P6
17:00:03 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:00:03 On the phone I see Sam, [Microsoft]
17:00:06 ACTION-87 due 20 Dec 2008
17:00:06 ACTION-87 Ensure Ian Hickson follows up on semantics-tables messages due date now 20 Dec 2008
17:00:16 + +049251280aabb
17:00:17 Zakim, +049251280aaaa is me
17:00:18 sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named '+049251280aaaa'
17:00:19 +[Apple]
17:00:24 Zakim, +049251280aabb is me
17:00:25 +Julian; got it
17:00:28 +??P14
17:00:29 zakim, [Apple] has dsinger
17:00:29 +dsinger; got it
17:00:45 zaki, ??P14 is Joshue
17:00:48 +Matt_May
17:00:58 +??P18
17:00:58 zakim, ??P14 is Joshue
17:01:00 +Joshue; got it
17:01:06 (ideally, we would have updated those actions and sent out the contents of http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda at T-24hrs, but hey... we'll get there)
17:01:06 Zakim, ??P18 is me
17:01:06 +hsivonen; got it
17:01:07 Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Weekly - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:01:08 Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
17:01:08 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:01:09 +Mike
17:01:15 +DanC
17:01:27 ChrisWilson has joined #html-wg
17:01:32 +??P21
17:01:44 Zakim, who's on the phone?
17:01:44 On the phone I see Sam, [Microsoft], Julian, [Apple], Joshue, Matt_May, hsivonen, Mike, DanC, ??P21
17:01:47 [Apple] has dsinger
17:01:48 Zakim, I am P21
17:01:48 sorry, Lachy, I do not see a party named 'P21'
17:01:51 Zakim, I am ??P21
17:01:51 +Lachy; got it
17:01:52 Zakim, Microsoft is me
17:01:52 +ChrisWilson; got it
17:01:54 + +1.408.536.aacc
17:01:55 + +1.519.538.aadd
17:02:03 Topic: Convene, take roll, review agenda
17:02:12 Zakim, drop Mike
17:02:12 Mike is being disconnected
17:02:13 -Mike
17:02:19 Zakim, call Mike
17:02:19 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:02:20 +Mike
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17:02:44 zakim, who is on the phone?
17:02:44 On the phone I see Sam, ChrisWilson, Julian, [Apple], Joshue, Matt_May, hsivonen, DanC, Lachy, MurrayM, LarryM, Mike
17:02:46 [Apple] has dsinger
17:03:09 Zakim, drop Mike
17:03:09 Mike is being disconnected
17:03:11 -Mike
17:03:19 agenda?
17:03:46 zakim, who's making noise?
17:03:48 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009JanMar/0001.html
17:03:50 Title: Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2008-11-20 from Sam Ruby on 2009-01-13 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from January to March 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
17:03:55 and this is sorted: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
17:03:56 Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Weekly - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:03:57 ChrisWilson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ChrisWilson (5%), Joshue (15%), LarryM (9%), DanC (29%)
17:04:00 zakim, mute me
17:04:00 Joshue should now be muted
17:04:42 zakim, who's here?
17:04:42 On the phone I see Sam, ChrisWilson, Julian, [Apple], Joshue (muted), Matt_May, hsivonen, DanC, Lachy, MurrayM, LarryM
17:04:43 Zakim, call Mike
17:04:45 [Apple] has dsinger
17:04:46 On IRC I see masinter, ChrisWilson, dsinger, Joshue, MikeSmith, rubys, gavin_, Lachy, Zakim, Sander, laplink, aaronlev, tlr, MichaelC, aroben, Julian, myakura, maddiin, ROBOd,
17:04:50 ... darobin, heycam, sryo, krijnh, gsnedders, anne, timelyx, tH, shepazu, deltab, hober, Shunsuke, Dashiva, matt, Hixie, DanC, gavin, drry, xover, trackbot, inimino, hsivonen,
17:04:54 ... wilhelm, jmb, Philip, RRSAgent, Yudai, phenny, pimpbot, takkaria, jgraham
17:04:56 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:04:56