IRC log of tsdtf on 2009-01-13
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- 13:08:09 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-tsdtf-irc
- 13:08:19 [Christophe]
- zakim, what conferences?
- 13:08:19 [Zakim]
- I see IA_MAWG()8:00AM, UW_Team()8:00AM active
- 13:08:20 [Zakim]
- also scheduled at this time is ARCH_Team()8:00AM
- 13:08:29 [Christophe]
- zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
- 13:08:29 [Zakim]
- ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
- 13:09:19 [Christophe]
- Meetinig: WAI TSD TF
- 13:09:34 [Christophe]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2009Jan/0004.html
- 13:09:42 [Christophe]
- Chair: ChristopheS
- 13:10:13 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Web interface for displaying test samples
- 13:10:36 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Open action items: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/tracker/actions/open
- 13:10:48 [Christophe]
- Agenda+ Reviews of test samples
- 13:30:22 [shadi]
- zakim, call shadi-617
- 13:30:22 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; the call is being made
- 13:30:23 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
- 13:30:24 [Zakim]
- +Shadi
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- 13:31:52 [Zakim]
- +??P16
- 13:32:04 [Zakim]
- +Carlos_Iglesias
- 13:32:07 [Christophe]
- zakim, ??P16 is Christophe_Strobbe
- 13:32:07 [Zakim]
- +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
- 13:32:54 [Christophe]
- Regrets: CarlosV
- 13:35:25 [MichaelC]
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- +Cooper
- 13:37:32 [Christophe]
- Wiki frontpage: http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/FrontPage
- 13:38:46 [MichaelC]
- scribe: MichaelC
- 13:40:23 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 13:40:23 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Web interface for displaying test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
- 13:40:37 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/Overview
- 13:41:23 [Christophe]
- Requirements: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/WebInterface/Mockups/design.html
- 13:42:00 [MichaelC]
- saz: prototype interface (not functional yet)
- 13:42:21 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/complete
- 13:43:07 [MichaelC]
- q+ to say the "search tests" not sure why in 3 screens - would prefer to combine, or explain up front the steps
- 13:43:36 [MichaelC]
- q+ to say listboxes with an option that says "default" should be selected
- 13:44:14 [MichaelC]
- saz: you can view "all tests" and tool can crawl everything
- 13:44:39 [MichaelC]
- in the "view for tools" option
- 13:45:00 [MichaelC]
- cs: worried about a new ID separate from the ones in the XML files
- 13:45:27 [MichaelC]
- cs: should table with tests have success criterion shown?
- 13:46:31 [MichaelC]
- mc: techniques can apply to multiple SC, think it would be confusing to show SC
- 13:47:52 [MichaelC]
- would rather that be in a search view
- 13:47:53 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/view.php?id=123
- 13:47:59 [MichaelC]
- cs: currrently only one SC per test
- 13:48:24 [shadi]
- http://canada.esat.kuleuven.be/bentoweb/tsdtf/xhtml/index.html
- 13:48:43 [MichaelC]
- cs: able to see XML of test?
- 13:49:05 [MichaelC]
- saz: the generated version is shown
- 13:49:15 [MichaelC]
- with links to the other parts
- 13:51:50 [MichaelC]
- saz: open issue is the ID
- 13:52:17 [MichaelC]
- mc: don't want semantics in ID, one generated by database is fine; if want the XML one, could expose as another field
- 13:52:32 [MichaelC]
- saz: problem is that we now have many IDs?
- 13:52:46 [MichaelC]
- cs: yes, the URI, the ID from the XML, and now the DB one
- 13:53:10 [MichaelC]
- harder to resolve when someone says "I used ID x"
- 13:53:42 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/view.php?id=213
- 13:55:46 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/simple
- 13:58:45 [MichaelC]
- mc: not sure why 3 screens in the search
- 13:59:04 [MichaelC]
- saz: each screen filters the next, difficult to do in one without a lot of options and scripting
- 13:59:26 [MichaelC]
- mc: well, at least could be clearer what the steps are; didn't see on first pass through why they needed to be separate
- 13:59:47 [MichaelC]
- cs: <missed>
- 14:00:25 [MichaelC]
- s/<missed>/what if someone wants to sort by technique, not by technology?
- 14:00:46 [MichaelC]
- saz: true, not as intuitive, would have to get to 3rd screen to make selections
- 14:00:47 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/simple
- 14:02:37 [MichaelC]
- saz: could also do it without prefiltering, but easier for user to choose a set of options that yield no results
- 14:04:41 [MichaelC]
- mc: could use AJAX, or script arrays of data to refine search options as user makes selections, or just accept reporting "no results"
- 14:05:32 [MichaelC]
- cs: screens could show what your choices were in previous steps, so when you get to end you know why no results
- 14:07:15 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/complete.php?sort=id&submit=Sort&view=tools
- 14:09:16 [MichaelC]
- saz: you can give the TCDL to a compliant tool so it can process metadata
- 14:09:29 [MichaelC]
- (reduces manual steps in test)
- 14:11:29 [MichaelC]
- saz: will revise the search interface
- 14:11:30 [MichaelC]
- q-
- 14:14:49 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/WebInterface/Mockups/search.html
- 14:21:14 [MichaelC]
- <scribe got lost for a while>
- 14:21:30 [MichaelC]
- <discussion of using short names instead of full titles>
- 14:23:41 [MichaelC]
- zakim, next item
- 14:23:41 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Open action items: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/tracker/actions/open" taken up [from Christophe]
- 14:23:55 [MichaelC]
- cs: can close actions relating to accessibility support database
- 14:26:17 [MichaelC]
- need to see if actions to review test samples are still current
- 14:26:46 [MichaelC]
- asks Carlos I to take a pass
- 14:26:48 [MichaelC]
- ci: ok
- 14:27:56 [Zakim]
- -Cooper
- 14:27:58 [Zakim]
- -Carlos_Iglesias
- 14:27:59 [Zakim]
- -Shadi
- 14:28:00 [Zakim]
- -Christophe_Strobbe
- 14:28:00 [Zakim]
- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
- 14:28:02 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper
- 14:37:08 [shadi]
- zakim, bye
- 14:37:08 [Zakim]
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- 14:37:14 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 14:37:18 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 14:37:18 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
- 14:37:19 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
- 14:37:26 [shadi]
- rrsagent, bye
- 14:37:26 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items