IRC log of tsdtf on 2009-01-13

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13:08:19 [Christophe]
zakim, what conferences?
13:08:19 [Zakim]
I see IA_MAWG()8:00AM, UW_Team()8:00AM active
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also scheduled at this time is ARCH_Team()8:00AM
13:08:29 [Christophe]
zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
13:08:29 [Zakim]
ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
13:09:19 [Christophe]
Meetinig: WAI TSD TF
13:09:34 [Christophe]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2009Jan/0004.html
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Chair: ChristopheS
13:10:13 [Christophe]
Agenda+ Web interface for displaying test samples
13:10:36 [Christophe]
Agenda+ Open action items: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/tracker/actions/open
13:10:48 [Christophe]
Agenda+ Reviews of test samples
13:30:22 [shadi]
zakim, call shadi-617
13:30:22 [Zakim]
ok, shadi; the call is being made
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WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
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+Shadi
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+??P16
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+Carlos_Iglesias
13:32:07 [Christophe]
zakim, ??P16 is Christophe_Strobbe
13:32:07 [Zakim]
+Christophe_Strobbe; got it
13:32:54 [Christophe]
Regrets: CarlosV
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+Cooper
13:37:32 [Christophe]
Wiki frontpage: http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/FrontPage
13:38:46 [MichaelC]
scribe: MichaelC
13:40:23 [Christophe]
zakim, take up agendum 1
13:40:23 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Web interface for displaying test samples" taken up [from Christophe]
13:40:37 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/Overview
13:41:23 [Christophe]
Requirements: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/WebInterface/Mockups/design.html
13:42:00 [MichaelC]
saz: prototype interface (not functional yet)
13:42:21 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/complete
13:43:07 [MichaelC]
q+ to say the "search tests" not sure why in 3 screens - would prefer to combine, or explain up front the steps
13:43:36 [MichaelC]
q+ to say listboxes with an option that says "default" should be selected
13:44:14 [MichaelC]
saz: you can view "all tests" and tool can crawl everything
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in the "view for tools" option
13:45:00 [MichaelC]
cs: worried about a new ID separate from the ones in the XML files
13:45:27 [MichaelC]
cs: should table with tests have success criterion shown?
13:46:31 [MichaelC]
mc: techniques can apply to multiple SC, think it would be confusing to show SC
13:47:52 [MichaelC]
would rather that be in a search view
13:47:53 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/view.php?id=123
13:47:59 [MichaelC]
cs: currrently only one SC per test
13:48:24 [shadi]
http://canada.esat.kuleuven.be/bentoweb/tsdtf/xhtml/index.html
13:48:43 [MichaelC]
cs: able to see XML of test?
13:49:05 [MichaelC]
saz: the generated version is shown
13:49:15 [MichaelC]
with links to the other parts
13:51:50 [MichaelC]
saz: open issue is the ID
13:52:17 [MichaelC]
mc: don't want semantics in ID, one generated by database is fine; if want the XML one, could expose as another field
13:52:32 [MichaelC]
saz: problem is that we now have many IDs?
13:52:46 [MichaelC]
cs: yes, the URI, the ID from the XML, and now the DB one
13:53:10 [MichaelC]
harder to resolve when someone says "I used ID x"
13:53:42 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/view.php?id=213
13:55:46 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/simple
13:58:45 [MichaelC]
mc: not sure why 3 screens in the search
13:59:04 [MichaelC]
saz: each screen filters the next, difficult to do in one without a lot of options and scripting
13:59:26 [MichaelC]
mc: well, at least could be clearer what the steps are; didn't see on first pass through why they needed to be separate
13:59:47 [MichaelC]
cs: <missed>
14:00:25 [MichaelC]
s/<missed>/what if someone wants to sort by technique, not by technology?
14:00:46 [MichaelC]
saz: true, not as intuitive, would have to get to 3rd screen to make selections
14:00:47 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/simple
14:02:37 [MichaelC]
saz: could also do it without prefiltering, but easier for user to choose a set of options that yield no results
14:04:41 [MichaelC]
mc: could use AJAX, or script arrays of data to refine search options as user makes selections, or just accept reporting "no results"
14:05:32 [MichaelC]
cs: screens could show what your choices were in previous steps, so when you get to end you know why no results
14:07:15 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/complete.php?sort=id&submit=Sort&view=tools
14:09:16 [MichaelC]
saz: you can give the TCDL to a compliant tool so it can process metadata
14:09:29 [MichaelC]
(reduces manual steps in test)
14:11:29 [MichaelC]
saz: will revise the search interface
14:11:30 [MichaelC]
q-
14:14:49 [shadi]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/WebInterface/Mockups/search.html
14:21:14 [MichaelC]
<scribe got lost for a while>
14:21:30 [MichaelC]
<discussion of using short names instead of full titles>
14:23:41 [MichaelC]
zakim, next item
14:23:41 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Open action items: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2006/tests/tracker/actions/open" taken up [from Christophe]
14:23:55 [MichaelC]
cs: can close actions relating to accessibility support database
14:26:17 [MichaelC]
need to see if actions to review test samples are still current
14:26:46 [MichaelC]
asks Carlos I to take a pass
14:26:48 [MichaelC]
ci: ok
14:27:56 [Zakim]
-Cooper
14:27:58 [Zakim]
-Carlos_Iglesias
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-Shadi
14:28:00 [Zakim]
-Christophe_Strobbe
14:28:00 [Zakim]
WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
14:28:02 [Zakim]
Attendees were Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias, Christophe_Strobbe, Cooper
14:37:08 [shadi]
zakim, bye
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14:37:14 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
14:37:18 [shadi]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:37:18 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
14:37:19 [shadi]
rrsagent, make logs world
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rrsagent, bye
14:37:26 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items