IRC log of soap-jms on 2009-01-13
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-soap-jms-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be SJMS
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- ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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- Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 13 January 2009
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Jan/0009.html
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- Chair: Roland
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- Regrets: Mark
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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- Zakim, Roland_Merrick is Roland
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- +Roland; got it
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- +eric
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- Scribe:peaston
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- Topic:Outstanding actions
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- Scribe: Peaston
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- scribetopic: outstanding actions
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- topic: outstanding actions
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/open
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- chair: roland
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- Need to see Yves wrt act 55 because of last call status revisit next week
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/wiki/2008-09_FAQ
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- topic: URI Spec
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- eric: Cisco employee awaiting email internally
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- topic: last call review comments from TSG
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- give this a week for responses to be made
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- awaiting from Oracle, SDA input on spec
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- topic: review testing and Dereks email re property test
- 17:17:50 [Roland]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2009Jan/0007.html
- 17:18:36 [peaston]
- derek: have spec and a testing question
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- action: derek to raise spec question independently after call
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- Created ACTION-57 - Raise spec question independently after call [on Derek Rokicki - due 2009-01-20].
- 17:20:59 [peaston]
- derek: should we be testing the how or source of the message property wsdl uir etc
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- s/uir/uri/
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- derek: how do we test the precedence rules?
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- eric: we should not have individual tests try and accomplish multiple properties in one test
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- roland: I think we need specific tests
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- phil: true individual test cases but not necessarity individual tests
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- roland: criteria is to provide a test suite to validate assertions
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- phil: do we need a concrete suite
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- eric: first priority is to ensure testability of all assertions also smaller test collateral is better
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- eric: value also to test individual failed tests
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- eric: but don't get too specific e.g. JAXWS might not be the environment
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- eric: no value in massive number of tests
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- roland: no rules for this on W3C
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- roland: stick to goal can we test all the assertions
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- derek: ok consensus is that fewer physical tests is better
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- derek: do we have to spell whole WSDL or just shell
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- eric: keep all WSDL tests in one section
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- roland: yes because of conformance groupings
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- roland: perhaps an aspect approach e.g. WSDL conformance needs tests x,y,z
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- topic: delivery mode issue
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- property name for non persistent is incorrect or inconsistent propose NON_PERSISTENT i.e. underscore present
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- topic: AOB?
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- eric: time frame for approval ?
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- s/eric/phil/
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- amy: rules of thumb are 3 months between cr,pr etc
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- roland: we need implementations
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- I have lost my phone !!!
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- thats all f9olks
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- bye all
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.919.663.aaaa, Roland, alewis, +1.512.286.aabb, Derek, Peter_Easton, eric, Phil
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/13-soap-jms-minutes.html peaston
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