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15:59:26 <mhausenblas> shall I scribe, Ashok ?
15:59:34 <Ashok> Please ...
15:59:45 <Ashok> zakim, this is rdb2rdf
15:59:45 <Zakim> ok, Ashok; that matches INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM
16:00:03 <mhausenblas> Meeting:  RDB2RDF XG
16:00:03 <Ashok> chair/; Ashok Malhotra
16:00:13 <mhausenblas> ?me takes over :)
16:00:17 <Ashok> chair: Ashok Malhotra
16:00:33 <Ashok> meeting RDB2RDF XG Jan 9, 2009
16:00:44 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0016.html
16:00:52 <Ashok> scribe mhausenblas
16:01:04 <Ashok> scribenick: mhausenblas
16:01:14 <mhausenblas> previous: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2008Dec/0019.html
16:01:27 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make record public
16:01:33 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:01:43 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
16:02:10 <Zakim> +Andrew_Eisenberg
16:02:14 <Zakim> +??P13
16:02:17 <Zakim> +??P15
16:02:27 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am ??P13
16:02:27 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
16:02:50 <Zakim> + +49.322.222.0.aaaa
16:03:20 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here
16:03:20 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you need to end that query with '?'
16:03:31 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:03:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P9, Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, mhausenblas, ??P15, +49.322.222.0.aaaa
16:03:31 <Soeren> Soeren has joined #rdb2rdf
16:03:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Ashok, AndrewE, ssahoo2, mhausenblas, MacTed, iv_an_ru, JimM
16:04:18 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is Soeren 
16:04:19 <Zakim> +Soeren; got it
16:05:43 <Zakim> +??P17
16:06:39 <Zakim> -??P17
16:06:49 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
16:06:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P9, Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, mhausenblas, ??P15, Soeren
16:06:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see Soeren, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ashok, AndrewE, ssahoo2, mhausenblas, MacTed, iv_an_ru, JimM
16:07:04 <Zakim> +??P8
16:07:09 <Zakim> + +01212803aabb
16:07:45 <iv_an_ru> Zakim, +01212803 is me
16:07:45 <Zakim> +iv_an_ru; got it
16:08:00 <ssahoo2> now I am on mute
16:09:00 <mhausenblas> ssahoo2: are you P8?
16:09:13 <Ashok> zakim, who is making noise?
16:09:23 <Zakim> Ashok, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P8 (42%), Soeren (60%)
16:09:40 <Ashok> testing
16:09:46 <mhausenblas> zakim, mute Soeren 
16:09:46 <Zakim> Soeren should now be muted
16:09:56 <mhausenblas> again, who is P8?
16:10:05 <ssahoo2> I am not P8
16:10:10 <mhausenblas> right
16:10:23 <Ashok> Ashok has joined #rdb2rdf
16:10:32 <mhausenblas> Topic: Roll Call
16:10:51 <mhausenblas> Topic: Appointment of minute taker
16:11:02 <mhausenblas> mhausenblas volunteers
16:11:12 <mhausenblas> Topic: Approve minutes of December 12 telcon
16:11:29 <mhausenblas> Ahmed requests clarification, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0001.html
16:11:47 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ashok to fix minutes according to Ahmed's mail
16:11:49 <Zakim> -Soeren
16:12:05 <mhausenblas> Topic: XG Logistics
16:12:14 <mhausenblas> zakim, mute ??P8
16:12:14 <Zakim> ??P8 should now be muted
16:12:29 <mhausenblas> Next telcon Jan 16, 2009
16:12:34 <Zakim> + +49.341.973.aacc
16:12:47 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is Soeren
16:12:47 <Zakim> +Soeren; got it
16:13:18 <ssahoo2> AShok I have forwarded mail to Susie Stephens - she has not replied 
16:13:37 <Ashok> Satya, did you get a date from Susie Stevens re. when she can present to us?
16:15:03 <mhausenblas> Ashok: we should clean up,
16:15:16 <mhausenblas> ... get SOTA out and think about the charter
16:15:18 <mhausenblas> Topic: 5. Action Items
16:15:40 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Satya to send mail to XG asking for a final review of the Literature Survey
16:15:45 <mhausenblas> -- done
16:16:55 <mhausenblas> s/-- done/--done
16:17:00 <Zakim> +??P0
16:17:21 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Axel to propose changes to Proposed Recommendation to use RIF (by X’mas)
16:17:28 <mhausenblas> --pending
16:17:46 <mhausenblas> s/--pending/--continues
16:17:51 <iv_an_ru> It seemes to me that the phone connection is off
16:18:01 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Ashok to send Proposed Recommendation to XG
16:18:04 <mhausenblas> --done
16:18:14 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Orri to send writeup on Ordnance Survey Usecase to XG
16:18:17 <mhausenblas> --continues
16:18:28 <mhausenblas> Topic: Satya Sahoo and Wolfgang Halb – Update on Literature Survey
16:18:59 <Ashok> http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=show
16:19:04 <mhausenblas> Ashok: sent out this morning by Satya
16:19:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, unmute ssahoo2 
16:19:28 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not know which phone connection belongs to ssahoo2
16:19:42 <mhausenblas> zakim, who is here?
16:19:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P9, Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, mhausenblas, ??P15, ??P8 (muted), iv_an_ru, Soeren, ??P0
16:19:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ashok, Soeren, RRSAgent, Zakim, AndrewE, ssahoo2, mhausenblas, MacTed, iv_an_ru, JimM
16:19:46 <Zakim> -??P8
16:20:06 <Zakim> +??P8
16:21:03 <mhausenblas> so, ssahoo2  is P8, right?
16:21:17 <ssahoo2> http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/StateOfTheArt?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RDB2RDF_SurveyReport.pdf
16:21:50 <mhausenblas> zakim, ssahoo2 is ??P8
16:21:50 <Zakim> sorry, mhausenblas, I do not recognize a party named 'ssahoo2'
16:22:15 <ssahoo2> ssahoo2 is satya sahoo
16:23:23 <mhausenblas> Satya: please comment on the current PDF version
16:23:32 <Zakim> -iv_an_ru
16:24:32 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is tallking?
16:24:32 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mhausenblas.
16:24:40 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who is talking?
16:24:50 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ashok_Malhotra (10%), ??P8 (28%), ??P9 (82%)
16:27:14 <mhausenblas> Ashok: no requirement so far to standardise the SPARQL bits so far
16:27:45 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:27:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:28:57 <mhausenblas> s/Topic: 5. Action/Topic: Action
16:29:42 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Satya to produce a final version of the SOTA till 2009-01-16
16:30:09 <mhausenblas> Topic: Use RIF for mapping
16:30:19 <mhausenblas> Ashok: Axel is not around, postpone it
16:30:55 <mhausenblas> Topic: Discussion of XG Recommendation
16:31:38 <mhausenblas> Michael notes that he is happy to take over TC with support from OpenLink chaps
16:32:31 <mhausenblas> Ashok: I've added a UC
16:33:37 <mhausenblas> Soeren: Got the impression that the nicotine dependencies UC needs some wordsmithing
16:34:21 <mhausenblas> Ashok: one proposal from XXX with reasoning
16:35:48 <Soeren> XXX is Li Ma from IBM China
16:36:09 <mhausenblas> s/XXX/Li Ma from IBM China
16:37:02 <mhausenblas> Soeren: maybe we need an enterprise UC (cia Kingsley?)
16:37:07 <mhausenblas> s/cia/via
16:40:30 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:40:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:41:19 <mhausenblas> Ashok: I'm comfortable with an corporate UC, Soeren may propose something there
16:41:48 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Soeren to propose a enterprise UC with input from OpenLink chaps
16:42:25 <mhausenblas> s/a enterprise/an enterprise
16:42:30 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:42:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:42:56 <Ashok>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0014.html
16:44:34 <Ashok> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html
16:47:19 <mhausenblas> s/http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html/http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-rdb2rdf/2009Jan/0002.html comments re the deliverable document
16:47:30 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:47:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:48:39 <mhausenblas> s/0002.html/0002.html comments re the deliverable document
16:48:42 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:48:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:51:31 <mhausenblas> Orri: let's get it not too complicated, will limit numbers of possible implementation
16:51:58 <mhausenblas> ... we can not put the ETL stuff  in detail in the charter anyway
16:52:10 <mhausenblas> ... but should leave some space for it 
16:53:51 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask re http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier
16:56:18 <mhausenblas> ack me
16:56:18 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re http://esw.w3.org/topic/Rdb2RdfXG/ReusableIdentifier
16:57:26 <mhausenblas> Michael: I did not see a reference from the deliverable, yet
16:58:29 <mhausenblas> Ashok: there is a reference but not to this
17:00:08 <mhausenblas> Michael: I volunteer to turn the current draft into a proper XG report
17:00:22 <mhausenblas> Ashok: will send over the file, good
17:00:36 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB
17:00:43 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:00:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:01:02 <mhausenblas> Ashok: thanks everybody, till next week
17:01:03 <Zakim> -??P9
17:01:05 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
17:01:06 <Zakim> -??P15
17:01:06 <Zakim> -Soeren
17:01:08 <Zakim> -??P0
17:01:10 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]
17:01:11 <Zakim> -??P8
17:01:12 <Zakim> -Andrew_Eisenberg
17:01:17 <mhausenblas> zakim, list attendees
17:01:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, mhausenblas, +49.322.222.0.aaaa, Soeren, +01212803aabb, iv_an_ru, +49.341.973.aacc
17:01:52 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:01:52 <Zakim> INC_RDB2RDF()11:00AM has ended
17:01:53 <Zakim> Attendees were Ashok_Malhotra, Andrew_Eisenberg, mhausenblas, +49.322.222.0.aaaa, Soeren, +01212803aabb, iv_an_ru, +49.341.973.aacc
17:02:09 <Ashok> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-minutes.html Ashok
17:02:38 <mhausenblas> zakim, bye
17:02:38 <Zakim> Zakim has left #RDB2RDF
17:02:46 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, bye
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-actions.rdf :
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ashok to fix minutes according to Ahmed's mail [1]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-11-47
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Satya to send mail to XG asking for a final review of the Literature Survey [2]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-15-40
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Axel to propose changes to Proposed Recommendation to use RIF (by X’mas) [3]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-17-21
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ashok to send Proposed Recommendation to XG [4]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-18-01
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Orri to send writeup on Ordnance Survey Usecase to XG [5]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-18-14
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Satya to produce a final version of the SOTA till 2009-01-16 [6]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-29-42
17:02:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Soeren to propose a enterprise UC with input from OpenLink chaps [7]
17:02:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/09-RDB2RDF-irc#T16-41-48