IRC log of rdfa on 2009-01-08
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- zakim, this will be rdfa
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- ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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- Scribe: Manu_Sporny
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- ScribeNick: msporny
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- Meeting: RDF in XHTML 1.0 Task Force
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- Chair: Ben_Adida
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html msporny
- 15:56:51 [mhausenblas]
- hey people, Happy New Year everybody! will be with you in ca. 5min
- 15:57:07 [msporny]
- Happy new Year Michael! :)
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- zakim, mccarron is ShaneM
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- +ShaneM; got it
- 16:02:15 [markbirbeck]
- previous call running late...
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- +??P58
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- zakim, I am ??P58
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- +msporny; got it
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- zakim, ??p62 is Michael
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- +Michael; got it
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- zakim, Michael is DrMichael
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- +DrMichael; got it
- 16:04:14 [msporny]
- Present: Ralph_Swick, Dr_Michael_Hausenblas, Manu_Sporny, Shane_McCarron, Ben_Adida
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html msporny
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- Topic: Action Items
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- +Ben_Adida
- 16:06:11 [Ralph]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0022.html
- 16:06:13 [Ralph]
- Chair: Ben
- 16:06:14 [msporny]
- Present+ Ben_Adida
- 16:06:35 [mhausenblas]
- Previous: 2008-12-18 http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc
- 16:06:49 [benadida]
- zakim, who is on the phone
- 16:06:49 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'who is on the phone', benadida
- 16:06:55 [benadida]
- zakim, who is on the call?
- 16:06:55 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see ShaneM, Ralph, msporny, DrMichael, Ben_Adida
- 16:06:55 [Ralph]
- s/-irc/-minutes
- 16:07:32 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
- 16:08:53 [markbirbeck]
- zakim, code?
- 16:08:54 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
- 16:09:52 [ShaneM]
- we do not use that namespac
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- + +0208761aaaa
- 16:10:02 [markbirbeck]
- zakim, i am aaaa
- 16:10:02 [Zakim]
- +markbirbeck; got it
- 16:10:42 [msporny]
- Topic: RDFa NS URL
- 16:10:48 [ShaneM]
- it is pointed to from the xhtml namespace document
- 16:10:55 [msporny]
- Ralph: It is up there, somewhere - the XHTML namespace document points to it.
- 16:11:07 [msporny]
- Ralph: Where is http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa/ used?
- 16:11:19 [msporny]
- ShaneM: It shouldn't be circulating, nothing should point to it.
- 16:12:47 [ShaneM]
- http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/
- 16:13:25 [benadida]
- http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/Overview.xhtml
- 16:13:29 [benadida]
- (2 days younger)
- 16:13:40 [benadida]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt
- 16:13:58 [msporny]
- ShaneM: Ralph/Steven or I will fix this.
- 16:14:27 [msporny]
- ShaneM: The contents of both those documents should be exactly the same.
- 16:14:29 [ShaneM]
- ACTION: fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace
- 16:14:29 [trackbot]
- Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
- 16:14:42 [msporny]
- Topic: Action Items
- 16:15:03 [Ralph]
- trackbot, bye
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
- 16:18:47 [benadida]
- action items --> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
- 16:19:25 [msporny]
- ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]
- 16:19:37 [msporny]
- -- continues
- 16:20:04 [msporny]
- ACTION: Ben to add public-rdfa examples to wiki and think of slightly improved top-level organization [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
- 16:20:07 [msporny]
- -- continues
- 16:20:15 [msporny]
- ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
- 16:20:25 [msporny]
- -- continues
- 16:20:38 [msporny]
- ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
- 16:20:40 [msporny]
- -- continues
- 16:20:48 [msporny]
- ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]
- 16:20:58 [msporny]
- -- continues
- 16:21:04 [msporny]
- ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
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- -- continues
- 16:21:13 [msporny]
- ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
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- -- continues
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- ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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- -- continues
- 16:21:31 [msporny]
- ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
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- -- continues
- 16:21:42 [msporny]
- ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
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- -- continues
- 16:21:51 [msporny]
- ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
- 16:22:02 [mhausenblas]
- http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Microformats_in_RDF
- 16:25:58 [Ralph]
- Manu: 2 parts
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- ... part 2 is "If I've already setup my page to use hCard, how do I switch to RDFa?"
- 16:26:24 [mhausenblas]
- Michael: split it into two parts (how and differences)
- 16:27:54 [msporny]
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- 16:28:14 [msporny]
- Manu: Perhaps we need something that shows general differences between uF and RDFa, and then gives specific examples.
- 16:28:29 [msporny]
- ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
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- -- continues
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- Topic: Test Cases
- 16:28:39 [benadida]
- scribenick: benadida
- 16:28:54 [msporny]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0016.html
- 16:29:38 [benadida]
- Manu: the issue tested here is with suffix-less CURIEs, e.g. "example:"
- 16:29:55 [Ralph]
- s/.html/.html Test Case #121: "[prefix:]" CURIE format is valid
- 16:30:02 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
- 16:30:20 [benadida]
- ... CURIE still expands, empty-string as suffix.
- 16:30:37 [Ralph]
- +1
- 16:30:38 [mhausenblas]
- +1
- 16:30:44 [ShaneM]
- +1
- 16:31:06 [benadida]
- RESOLVED: test case 121 suffix-less CURIE approved
- 16:31:15 [msporny]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0017.html
- 16:31:25 [Ralph]
- s/.html/.html Test Case #122: "[:]" CURIE format is valid
- 16:33:12 [mhausenblas]
- +1
- 16:33:13 [Ralph]
- +1
- 16:33:16 [benadida]
- +1
- 16:33:16 [ShaneM]
- +1
- 16:33:23 [markbirbeck]
- +1
- 16:33:27 [msporny]
- +1
- 16:33:30 [benadida]
- RESOLVED: test case 122 prefix and suffix-less CURIE [:]
- 16:33:40 [benadida]
- RESOLVED: test case 122 prefix and suffix-less CURIE [:] approved
- 16:33:43 [msporny]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0018.html
- 16:33:53 [Ralph]
- s/.html/.html Test Case #123: "[]" is a valid safe CURIE
- 16:34:13 [mhausenblas]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0026.html
- 16:34:42 [msporny]
- about="[foo]"
- 16:34:48 [Ralph]
- Manu: the current consensus is that the subject is http://example.org/
- 16:34:49 [msporny]
- about="[]"
- 16:35:09 [Ralph]
- Manu: "[foo]" is an invalid CURIE, therefore so should be the empty string
- 16:35:28 [Ralph]
- ... as neither is in the reserved (XHTML) list
- 16:35:36 [msporny]
- # the mapping to use when there is no prefix is not defined, which effectively prohibits the use of CURIEs that do not contain a colon;
- 16:35:48 [Ralph]
- scribenick: Ralph
- 16:36:16 [Ralph]
- Ben: did we define CURIES to require a prefix in RDFa?
- 16:36:17 [Ralph]
- Mark: yes
- 16:36:32 [Ralph]
- ... wasn't my preference, but it was a long discussion
- 16:36:49 [Ralph]
- Ben: considering consistency w.r.t. reserved words
- 16:37:05 [Ralph]
- ... this is the first instance where an invalid value actually changes the structure
- 16:37:19 [Ralph]
- Mark: and Ivan pointed out the same thing occurs with @about="[foo]"
- 16:37:33 [Ralph]
- Shane: right; @about="[foo]" should not change the subject
- 16:37:46 [Ralph]
- Ben: but the presence of @rel alters the graph structure even if the CURIE is not valid
- 16:37:58 [Ralph]
- ... however in this case it's acting as if @about was not present
- 16:38:33 [Ralph]
- ... however, since @about just changes the subject and doesn't by itself generates triples, maybe this is OK
- 16:38:59 [Ralph]
- Mark: it's clear that this is the current spec. We could discuss whether this is the most desireable choice.
- 16:39:27 [Ralph]
- Ben: so if it's not a valid CURIE value, the behavior is as if @about were not there
- 16:39:50 [Ralph]
- Mark: the alternative discussed was to assume the invalid CURIE was in the local document namespace
- 16:39:56 [Ralph]
- ... and we liked that less
- 16:40:13 [Ralph]
- Ben: the discussion is about the subject; some triple has to be generated, and the spec is clear
- 16:40:29 [Ralph]
- Mark: however, as you note @rel="[foo]" does do some work
- 16:40:58 [Ralph]
- Ben: rephrasing, what is the alternative when an invalid CURIE is found?
- 16:41:05 [Ralph]
- ... it would seem wrong to drop the triple entirely
- 16:41:26 [Ralph]
- ... whereas it's more reasonable to drop the triple in @rel="[foo]"
- 16:41:42 [Ralph]
- ... so I don't see a better alternative for @about="[foo]" without major changes to CURIE
- 16:42:14 [Ralph]
- ... I'm satisfied with this conclusion
- 16:42:28 [Ralph]
- Mark: the test case seems to be unnecessarily nested
- 16:42:38 [Ralph]
- Manu: yeah, probably; it went through several iterations
- 16:42:47 [Ralph]
- Mark: the middle DIV could probably be dropped
- 16:43:04 [Ralph]
- ... you only need the first one
- 16:43:35 [Ralph]
- Manu: yeah, it appears the <div about="http://example.org/"> could be dropped
- 16:43:48 [Ralph]
- ... the correct SPARQL should be ...
- 16:44:26 [Ralph]
- Shane: do you agree, Mark, that the same rules apply to @resource, @href, @src?
- 16:44:33 [Ralph]
- Ben: only @resource uses SafeCURIE
- 16:44:48 [msporny]
- Here's the updated case:
- 16:44:52 [msporny]
- ---------------------Test Case 123 XHTML--------------------------
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- <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
- 16:44:52 [msporny]
- <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"
- 16:44:52 [msporny]
- "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
- 16:44:52 [msporny]
- <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
- 16:44:53 [msporny]
- xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
- 16:44:55 [msporny]
- <head>
- 16:44:56 [msporny]
- <title>Test Case 0123</title>
- 16:44:59 [msporny]
- </head>
- 16:45:01 [msporny]
- <body>
- 16:45:02 [msporny]
- <p about="http://example.org/">
- 16:45:05 [msporny]
- <span about="[]" property="dc:title">Test Case 0123</span>
- 16:45:06 [msporny]
- checks to make sure RDFa processors resolve the empty
- 16:45:09 [msporny]
- CURIE correctly.
- 16:45:11 [msporny]
- <div>
- 16:45:13 [msporny]
- <div resource="[]">
- 16:45:15 [msporny]
- <span property="dc:contributor">Shane McCarron</span>
- 16:45:16 [msporny]
- contributed to this test.
- 16:45:19 [msporny]
- </div>
- 16:45:20 [msporny]
- </div>
- 16:45:22 [msporny]
- </p>
- 16:45:24 [msporny]
- </body>
- 16:45:27 [msporny]
- </html>
- 16:45:29 [msporny]
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- 16:45:31 [msporny]
- ---------------------Test Case 123 SPARQL -----------------------
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- ASK WHERE {
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- <http://example.org/>
- 16:45:37 [msporny]
- <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title>
- 16:45:38 [msporny]
- "Test Case 0123" .
- 16:45:40 [Ralph]
- Shane: assuming that it is possible to create an illegal URI then the general rule would hold that an illegal URI is ignored
- 16:45:41 [msporny]
- <http://example.org/>
- 16:45:42 [msporny]
- <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor>
- 16:45:45 [msporny]
- "Shane McCarron" .
- 16:45:47 [msporny]
- }
- 16:45:49 [msporny]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- 16:45:51 [Ralph]
- Mark: yeah
- 16:45:52 [msporny]
- more corrections:
- 16:45:57 [benadida]
- Shane: @href and @src?
- 16:46:07 [Ralph]
- scribenick: benadida
- 16:46:07 [msporny]
- sorry ralph
- 16:46:09 [msporny]
- ---------------------Test Case 123 XHTML--------------------------
- 16:46:09 [msporny]
- <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
- 16:46:09 [msporny]
- <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"
- 16:46:09 [msporny]
- "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
- 16:46:09 [msporny]
- <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
- 16:46:09 [msporny]
- xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
- 16:46:12 [msporny]
- <head>
- 16:46:14 [msporny]
- <title>Test Case 0123</title>
- 16:46:15 [msporny]
- </head>
- 16:46:17 [msporny]
- <body>
- 16:46:19 [msporny]
- <p about="http://example.org/">
- 16:46:22 [msporny]
- <span about="[]" property="dc:title">Test Case 0123</span>
- 16:46:24 [msporny]
- checks to make sure RDFa processors resolve the empty
- 16:46:25 [msporny]
- CURIE correctly.
- 16:46:28 [msporny]
- <div resource="[]">
- 16:46:30 [msporny]
- <span property="dc:contributor">Shane McCarron</span>
- 16:46:31 [msporny]
- contributed to this test.
- 16:46:33 [msporny]
- </div>
- 16:46:36 [msporny]
- </p>
- 16:46:38 [msporny]
- </body>
- 16:46:40 [msporny]
- </html>
- 16:46:42 [msporny]
- -----------------------------------------------------------------
- 16:46:44 [msporny]
- ---------------------Test Case 123 SPARQL -----------------------
- 16:46:46 [msporny]
- ASK WHERE {
- 16:46:47 [msporny]
- <http://example.org/>
- 16:46:50 [msporny]
- <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title>
- 16:46:52 [msporny]
- "Test Case 0123" .
- 16:46:54 [msporny]
- <http://example.org/>
- 16:46:56 [msporny]
- <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor>
- 16:46:57 [msporny]
- "Shane McCarron" .
- 16:46:59 [msporny]
- }
- 16:47:03 [msporny]
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
- 16:47:14 [benadida]
- Shane: @href and @src are evaluated the same way
- 16:47:20 [msporny]
- +1
- 16:47:23 [markbirbeck]
- +1
- 16:47:23 [benadida]
- Ben: +1
- 16:47:24 [mhausenblas]
- +1
- 16:47:40 [benadida]
- RESOLVED: test case 123 with [] invalid CURIE approved
- 16:48:47 [ShaneM]
- +1
- 16:49:05 [Zakim]
- -DrMichael
- 16:49:22 [Ralph]
- +1, though recommend changing the SPAN content to give a semantically less confusing title
- 16:50:27 [msporny]
- Action: Manu to create TC to test @resource="[]" does not set object based on TC 123.
- 16:51:14 [msporny]
- Topic: comment from december about test suite:
- 16:52:42 [msporny]
- scribenick: msporny
- 16:53:07 [benadida]
- ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html
- 16:53:07 [msporny]
- Manu: Didn't have time to look at it in depth.
- 16:54:05 [benadida]
- consensus from dec 4th:
- 16:54:06 [benadida]
- so I think we have consensus about @prefix='p1=u1 p2=u2 ...'
- 16:54:07 [benadida]
- ... and that @prefix='=u1' seems not to have value
- 16:54:07 [benadida]
- ... and @prefix='u1' may have value and should be further investigated
- 16:54:11 [benadida]
- --> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/04-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
- 16:54:12 [msporny]
- Topic: keyword bundles and HTML4-compatible RDFa
- 16:55:05 [msporny]
- benadida: We agree that there needs to be some non-xml based approach to declare namespaces. Should it be called @prefix?
- 16:55:14 [Ralph]
- s/ActionSummary/item02
- 16:55:19 [msporny]
- benadida: We need to make that decision.
- 16:55:31 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
- 16:56:08 [msporny]
- benadida: We should confirm the idea that a "with" statement is not useful. We drop the idea of @prefix="=u1".
- 16:56:42 [msporny]
- benadida: If we want to provide bundles, are they bundles of reserved words, or more involved transformations.
- 16:57:19 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: I don't think we finalized whether the syntax within the attribute is "a=b" or "a:b" or something else.
- 16:58:21 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: If it is some sort of transformation, it would be a set of transformations defined using RDF.
- 16:58:31 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: Fresnel is one example of this approach.
- 16:58:57 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: Transformations are out of scope in a way, we don't need to overload the RDFa parsing algorithm.
- 16:59:39 [msporny]
- benadida: Do you have a draft of your deeper thoughts about this issue?
- 17:00:03 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: I'm a bit weary of discussing this off-list, prefer to have the discussion in the public.
- 17:00:22 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: We're keen to address the issue
- 17:00:33 [msporny]
- benadida: I agree.
- 17:01:09 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: I like "keyword bundle"
- 17:02:05 [msporny]
- benadida: It would be good to see how all this stuff plays together.
- 17:02:40 [msporny]
- ShaneM: These should be two separate topics. @prefix is one, keyword bundles is the other.
- 17:03:11 [msporny]
- benadida: Any other decisions that we need to make that are missing?
- 17:03:30 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: there isn't any particular reason that we couldn't end up with two more attributes.
- 17:03:50 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: We could agree on @prefix and get that done.
- 17:04:12 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: @token and keyword bundles could use another attribute.
- 17:04:19 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: and it could come later.
- 17:04:46 [ShaneM]
- oooh - we could introduce curie-xxx attributes just to irritate people in the tag
- 17:04:55 [msporny]
- @token would be used to specify these values at run-time.
- 17:05:10 [msporny]
- server-curie-xx
- 17:05:34 [ShaneM]
- s/people in the tag/people in the tag (that was sarcasm!)/
- 17:05:50 [msporny]
- benadida: We do have a proposal on the table for @prefix, prefix="p1=u1 p2=u2"
- 17:06:40 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: There are some benefits to have @prefix in the HEAD - it could be argued that it should apply in the BODY.
- 17:07:35 [msporny]
- ShaneM: Didn't we talk about using LINK to specify that?
- 17:07:50 [msporny]
- markbirbeck: Yes, or we could extend it in some other way - a new element or attribute.
- 17:08:24 [ShaneM]
- I agree that having prefix / keyword bundles in the head that apply to the entire document makes sense.
- 17:08:42 [Ralph]
- Ben: regrets for 22 Jan
- 17:08:54 [Ralph]
- next meeting: 22 Jan
- 17:09:03 [Zakim]
- -ShaneM
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- -markbirbeck
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- -Ben_Adida
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- -Ralph
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- SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Ralph, ShaneM, msporny, DrMichael, Ben_Adida, +0208761aaaa, markbirbeck
- 17:09:22 [Ralph]
- zakim, bye
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- 17:09:27 [Ralph]
- rrsagent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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- 18:08:01 [Ralph]
- rrsagent, bye
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- I see 15 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-actions.rdf :
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [1]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-14-29
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc] [2]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-19-25
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ben to add public-rdfa examples to wiki and think of slightly improved top-level organization [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [3]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-20-04
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [4]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-20-15
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [5]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-20-38
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action04] [6]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-20-48
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [7]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-21-04
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [8]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-21-13
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [9]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-21-22
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [10]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-21-31
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] [11]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-21-42
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] [12]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-21-51
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [13]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-28-29
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Manu to create TC to test @resource="[]" does not set object based on TC 123. [14]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-50-27
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html [15]
- 18:08:01 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc#T16-53-07