IRC log of mwts on 2009-01-06

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15:57:57 [dom]
RRSAgent, make log public
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trackbot, bye
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15:58:03 [dom]
Zakim, this will be MWTS
15:58:03 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, dom
15:58:07 [dom]
Zakim, this will be TS
15:58:07 [Zakim]
ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
15:58:15 [dom]
Chair: Wilhelm
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Regrets: Carmelo
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15:58:51 [dom]
Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
15:59:58 [Zakim]
MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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16:00:22 [hendry]
+??P42 is hendry
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16:00:43 [dom]
zakim, ??P42 is hendry
16:00:43 [Zakim]
+hendry; got it
16:00:49 [dom]
zakim, code?
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the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+ tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
16:01:09 [Zakim]
16:01:12 [hendry]
Zakim, status?
16:01:12 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, hendry.
16:01:18 [wilhelm]
Zakim, ??P45 is wilhelm
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+wilhelm; got it
16:01:20 [dom]
zakim, ??P54 is me
16:01:20 [Zakim]
+dom; got it
16:02:22 [dom]
Topic: Widgets testing
16:02:34 [dom]
ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:02:55 [dom]
Kai: no progress; I was waiting on Robert to get back to me - he's looking at it now
16:03:10 [dom]
... not much progress in the past few weeks generally speaking
16:03:21 [dom]
... I'll try to work more on this
16:03:44 [dom]
Topic: Device independent testing guidelines
16:04:04 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:04:13 [dom]
Dom: will try to have something for next week - not absolute sure though
16:04:17 [hendry]
dom: don't forget to checkout :-)
16:04:24 [dom]
ACTION: Dmitiri to review the DI guidelines [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:04:35 [dom]
Topic: Web Compatibility Test
16:04:49 [dom]
ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for the inputmode test [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:05:02 [dom]
Kai: still looking at it - I've asked around, but no good suggestions have come up so far
16:05:10 [dom]
ACTION: WIhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test
16:05:29 [dom]
ACTION: Kai to refactor the memory limitation test into something indicating the max memory [recorded in] [DONE]
16:05:43 [dom]
-> Kai's proposed tests for testing memory limitations
16:05:51 [dom]
Kai: a bit rough, but reasonable enough
16:06:05 [dom]
... the newest phones (e.g. iphone, android) seem to fare quite well
16:06:18 [dom]
... not sure what the next steps should be there
16:06:36 [dom]
... probably worth mentioning in a blog post
16:06:45 [dom]
Wilhelm: I can put my devices on test in this
16:06:49 [dom]
... and then we can blog about it
16:07:05 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices
16:07:24 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his devices
16:07:38 [dom]
Wilhelm: we can follow up based on these results
16:07:46 [dom]
Topic: Blog
16:07:59 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:08:06 [dom]
Wilhelm: intend to do so tomorrow
16:08:17 [dom]
ACTION: Kai to put his draft blog post on MWTS blog [recorded in] [DONE]
16:08:21 [Zakim]
16:08:25 [dom]
Kai: I've a draft ready up there
16:08:31 [dom]
zakim, ??P66 is dmitri
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+dmitri; got it
16:08:43 [dom]
Topic: Agreement on test suites with OMA
16:08:55 [dom]
ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:09:04 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in] [PENDING]
16:09:39 [dom]
Topic: DI guidelines
16:09:54 [dom]
Dmitri: I have prepared some comments that I will send today
16:10:09 [dom]
... not quite sure about the intended scope of the document
16:10:23 [dom]
... is it only about conformance testing?
16:10:39 [dom]
... for user agents?
16:10:53 [dom]
Wilhelm: I think that's the main use case we are considering, indeed
16:11:00 [dom]
... with a pass/fail result
16:11:56 [dom]
Dmitri: I'll send my comments - I think the document will need some rewrite [?]
16:12:25 [dom]
... I'll explain in further details my understanding of the document
16:13:44 [dom]
16:13:46 [Zakim]
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were hendry, wilhelm, dom, dmitri
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s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
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RRSagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate dom