ISSUE-5: Handling spatial cropping requires information at client-side

spatial cropping

Handling spatial cropping requires information at client-side

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Raised by:
Jack Jansen
Opened on:
2009-04-07
Description:
For temporal clipping, we have said that it is possible to do it either server-side or client-side. The client can detect the fact that it has been done server side (either fully or even partially) by inspecting the HTTP reply headers, and do additional cropping if needed.

For spatial cropping we need similar information too: if the client is to know whether it has to do additional cropping it needs to know not only the width and height of the image it received from the server (which it can probably deduce by inspecting the returned media item) but also the original width and height and, in case the server has already done some cropping, the x and y (in original-media space) of the topleft corner of the returned image.

Special care needs to be taken that the information returned is complete enough that percent-based cropping can be done client-side.
Related Actions Items:
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Related emails:
  1. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 09 June, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-06-08)
  2. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 02 June, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-05-31)
  3. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 26 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-05-26)
  4. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 26 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-05-25)
  5. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 19 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-05-19)
  6. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 12 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-05-19)
  7. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 19 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2010-05-19)
  8. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 19 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-05-18)
  9. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 12 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-05-12)
  10. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 12 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-05-12)
  11. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 12 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-05-11)
  12. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 05 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-05-05)
  13. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 05 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2010-05-04)
  14. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 05 May, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-05-03)
  15. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 28 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-04-27)
  16. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 14 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-04-12)
  17. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2010-04-07)
  18. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2010-04-06)
  19. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-04-06)
  20. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-04-06)
  21. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 April, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-04-06)
  22. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 31 March, Telecon 0900 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2010-03-31)
  23. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 31 March, Telecon 0900 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-03-31)
  24. Re: [ERRATA] Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon *0900 UTC* (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-03-17)
  25. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2010-03-16)
  26. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2010-03-16)
  27. Re: [ERRATA] Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon *0900 UTC* (from ylafon@w3.org on 2010-03-16)
  28. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from philipj@opera.com on 2010-03-16)
  29. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-03-16)
  30. [ERRATA] Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon *0900 UTC* (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-03-16)
  31. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-03-16)
  32. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 03 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2010-03-03)
  33. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 03 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-03-03)
  34. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 03 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from Franck.Denoual@crf.canon.fr on 2010-03-03)
  35. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 03 March, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-03-02)
  36. Formatting of the minutes (from Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl on 2010-02-27)
  37. Minutes of 2010-02-24 teleconference (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2010-02-24)
  38. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 24 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from tmichel@w3.org on 2010-02-23)
  39. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 24 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-02-23)
  40. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-02-16)
  41. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 10 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-02-09)
  42. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-02-03)
  43. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-02-03)
  44. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-02-03)
  45. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-02-03)
  46. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-02-03)
  47. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 3 February, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-02-03)
  48. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 27 January, Telecon 1000 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2010-01-27)
  49. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 27 January, Telecon 1000 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2010-01-27)
  50. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 27 January, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-01-27)
  51. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 20 January, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2010-01-21)
  52. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 20 January, Telecon 1000 UTC (from raphael.troncy@cwi.nl on 2010-01-20)
  53. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 13 January, Telecon 1000 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2010-01-13)
  54. Re: !Last phonecall before publication (be part of it)! - Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 16 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-12-16)
  55. Re: !Last phonecall before publication (be part of it)! - Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 16 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-12-15)
  56. !Last phonecall before publication (be part of it)! - Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 16 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-12-14)
  57. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 09 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-12-09)
  58. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 09 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-12-07)
  59. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 02 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-12-02)
  60. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 02 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-12-02)
  61. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 02 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from philipj@opera.com on 2009-12-02)
  62. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 02 December, Telecon 1000 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-12-02)
  63. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 25 November, Telecon 1000 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-11-25)
  64. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 25 November, Telecon 1000 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-11-25)
  65. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 25 November, Telecon 1000 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-11-24)
  66. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 18 November, Telecon 1000 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-11-18)
  67. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 October, Telecon 0900 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-10-07)
  68. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 October, Telecon 0900 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-10-07)
  69. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 07 October, Telecon 0900 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-10-06)
  70. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 30 September, Telecon 0900 UTC *NEW HOUR* (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-09-30)
  71. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 30 September, Telecon 0900 UTC *NEW HOUR* (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-09-28)
  72. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 23 September, Telecon 0900 UTC *NEW HOUR* (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-09-23)
  73. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 9 September, Telecon 1200 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2009-09-09)
  74. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 9 September, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-09-08)
  75. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 9 September, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-09-08)
  76. RE: ISSUE-11 (Duration-header): How the UA knows the full media duration when only a fragment is served? (from ylafon@w3.org on 2009-09-02)
  77. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 2 September, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-09-02)
  78. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 2 September, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-09-01)
  79. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 2 September, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-09-01)
  80. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 26 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from tmichel@w3.org on 2009-08-25)
  81. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 26 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2009-08-25)
  82. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 26 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-08-24)
  83. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 19 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-08-19)
  84. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 19 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-08-18)
  85. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 19 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-08-18)
  86. Regrets: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 12 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from golivrin@meraka.org.za on 2009-08-12)
  87. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 12 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-08-11)
  88. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 5 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-08-04)
  89. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 5 August, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-08-04)
  90. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-07-29)
  91. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-07-29)
  92. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-07-28)
  93. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-07-28)
  94. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-07-28)
  95. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 22 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-07-22)
  96. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 22 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-07-22)
  97. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 15 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2009-07-15)
  98. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 15 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com on 2009-07-15)
  99. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 15 July, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-07-15)
  100. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 24 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from tmichel@w3.org on 2009-06-24)
  101. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 24 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-06-24)
  102. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-06-17)
  103. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 17 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-06-17)
  104. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 10 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-06-10)
  105. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 10 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-06-10)
  106. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 10 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from ylafon@w3.org on 2009-06-09)
  107. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 10 June, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-06-09)
  108. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 20 May, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-05-19)
  109. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 20 May, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-05-19)
  110. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 13 May, Telecon 1200 UTC (from erik.mannens@ugent.be on 2009-05-13)
  111. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 13 May, Telecon 1200 UTC (from michael.hausenblas@deri.org on 2009-05-13)
  112. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 13 May, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-05-13)
  113. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 13 May, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-05-12)
  114. Re: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 April, Telecon 1200 UTC (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2009-04-29)
  115. RE: Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 April, Telecon 1200 UTC (from davy.vandeursen@ugent.be on 2009-04-29)
  116. Media Fragments Working Group: Agenda 29 April, Telecon 1200 UTC (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-04-29)
  117. Re: Discovery and fallback for media segment addressing over HTTP (from conrad@metadecks.org on 2009-04-08)
  118. Re: Discovery and fallback for media segment addressing over HTTP (from Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl on 2009-04-07)
  119. ISSUE-5: Handling spatial cropping requires information at client-side (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2009-04-07)

Related notes:

There may be an loose analogy in the temporal domain: we currently specify that clipped begin- and end-time are transmitted from server to client, but by passing more information here (begin- and end-time per track?) we may be able to let the UA re-sync tracks that got out of sync because of non-transcoding or something.

Jack Jansen, 17 Apr 2009, 14:55:30

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