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15:54:50 <YvesS> akim, list conferences
15:54:54 <YvesS> zakim, list conferences
15:54:55 <Zakim> I see no active conferences
15:54:56 <Zakim> scheduled at this time are MWI_BPWG(CTTF)10:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, T&S_XMLSEC()10:00AM, WS_DBWG()10:00AM, IA_Team()10:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM,
15:54:59 <Zakim> ... SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM, MWI_TSWG()11:00AM, XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, INC_RWAB()11:00AM
15:55:16 <YvesS> zakim, this will be I18N_ITS
15:55:16 <Zakim> ok, YvesS; I see I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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15:57:15 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS IG
15:57:16 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
15:57:23 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
15:57:39 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Dec/0012.html
15:57:43 <YvesS> Hi Felix, we have regrets from Camille
15:58:03 <fsasaki> regrets: Camille
15:59:32 <Zakim> I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM has now started
15:59:39 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
15:59:45 <Zakim> +Felix
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16:00:25 <Zakim> +[SAP]
16:00:43 <fsasaki> present: Christian, Yves, Felix
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16:01:51 <fsasaki> present+ Jirka
16:03:07 <YvesS> zakim, who is there?
16:03:07 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, YvesS.
16:03:11 <Zakim> + +420.4.811.2.aaaa
16:03:43 <fsasaki> topic: ITS-oriented reviews of XML specifications
16:03:58 <fsasaki> ACTION - Yves to look at UIML (Oasis) pending
16:03:58 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - -
16:04:13 <fsasaki> ACTION - Rodolfo to look at XUL - pending
16:04:13 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - -
16:04:32 <fsasaki> Yves: SML Feedback, topic is resolved
16:04:35 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Nov/0008.html
16:05:22 <fsasaki> Action Felix to look at WebCGM 2.1 - pending
16:05:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Look at WebCGM 2.1 - pending [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-12-30].
16:05:37 <fsasaki> Yves to look at POWDER
16:05:39 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Dec/0003.html
16:06:49 <fsasaki> Yves: POWDER works on integrating my ITS rules file in the spec
16:06:55 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call
16:08:15 <fsasaki> action: Felix to review widget spec
16:08:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Review widget spec [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-12-30].
16:08:47 <fsasaki> Jirka: widget spec uses already its:dir
16:09:33 <fsasaki> action: Felix to look at OWL
16:09:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Look at OWL [on Felix Sasaki - due 2008-12-30].
16:11:05 <fsasaki> Christian: did we had a look at TBX in its ISO version?
16:11:15 <fsasaki> .. not sure what the ISO draft says about ITS data categories
16:11:29 <fsasaki> Yves: haven't looked at it for a long time
16:11:43 <fsasaki> Christian describes TBX
16:12:27 <fsasaki> Christian: TBX has transition from LISA to ISO, not sure about the changes happening and if ITS is being covered
16:12:49 <fsasaki> Yves: where to find the current draft?
16:13:17 <fsasaki> action: Yves to call Kara Warburton asking for the latest ISO draft
16:13:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Call Kara Warburton asking for the latest ISO draft [on Yves Savourel - due 2008-12-30].
16:13:56 <fsasaki> topic: ITS rules repository
16:14:13 <fsasaki> action Jirka to edit the rules for OOXML
16:14:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Edit the rules for OOXML [on Jirka Kosek - due 2008-12-30].
16:14:22 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/OOXML10
16:14:25 <fsasaki> close ACTION-91
16:14:25 <trackbot> ACTION-91 Edit the rules for OOXML closed
16:15:12 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll try to this with a test file
16:15:37 <fsasaki> Yves to continue working on the rules for ODF
16:15:45 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ODF10
16:15:50 <fsasaki> Yves: not finished yet
16:15:54 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ODF10
16:16:32 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/POWDER
16:17:22 <fsasaki> topic: ITS Processor API
16:17:37 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Dec/0007.html
16:18:08 <fsasaki> Yves: made some changes, like how to access attribute
16:18:54 <fsasaki> .. currently this implements translate and directionality
16:19:10 <fsasaki> .. decoration is still not changed from user data to attribute
16:20:19 <fsasaki> Christian: processor implements translate and directionality, following http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ITS_Processor_Interface ?
16:20:21 <fsasaki> Yves: yes
16:21:41 <fsasaki> .. main issue if you implement a full decoration or not. Currently I do like this: everything which is inherited is not being decorated
16:21:50 <fsasaki> .. so you have to walk the tree
16:23:13 <fsasaki> topic: ITS XSLT processor
16:23:47 <fsasaki> AI Felix to look into XPath expressivity in SAX engine of saxon - can be dropped
16:24:28 <fsasaki> AI Felix to follow up with Syd comments, and with Bryan and XML+ITS->XLIFF - pending
16:24:55 <fsasaki> Christian: maybe ping Bryan again?
16:24:58 <fsasaki> Felix: will do
16:25:51 <fsasaki> Christian: include proposal for call with Bryan
16:26:14 <fsasaki> AI Rodolfo to try look at the xslt decorator - pending
16:27:51 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ITS_General_Decorator
16:28:09 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/ITS_General_Decorator#Create_your_own_data_categories
16:29:57 <fsasaki> Felix: general decorator, for testing etc.
16:30:18 <fsasaki> Christian: question: danger in having separate development tracks
16:30:32 <fsasaki> .. hard to see status of implementations, interop
16:30:59 <fsasaki> .. will translate decorator be decrepacated?
16:31:27 <fsasaki> Felix: agree, how to implement deprecation?
16:31:52 <fsasaki> Christian: adding cross references to wiki pages for general and translate decorator
16:32:46 <fsasaki> Yves: agree, make ITS processing wiki page more clear
16:33:46 <fsasaki> topic: ITS General issues
16:34:02 <fsasaki> AI Felix to check what URI to use for ITS extensions
16:34:06 <fsasaki> done
16:34:21 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2008Dec/0013.html
16:34:33 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/its-extensions
16:34:37 <fsasaki> Yves: is above NS OK?
16:35:39 <fsasaki> Christian: purpose is to put things which may be extensions of future ITS?
16:35:42 <fsasaki> Yves: yes
16:37:41 <fsasaki> agreement to publish new namespace
16:38:42 <fsasaki> now public: http://www.w3.org/2008/12/its-extensions
16:38:56 <fsasaki> AI Ingo to draft a proposal for the context - pending
16:39:04 <fsasaki> topic: language code issue
16:39:18 <fsasaki> Yves: hard to define rule file which has not hard coded language code
16:39:56 <fsasaki> .. need a kind of variable
16:40:26 <fsasaki> .. e.g. "translate nothing except the text element with the element that has the attribute xml:lang='en'"
16:41:01 <fsasaki> Jirka: you can have a separate XML document, to have the language codes as parameters
16:41:08 <fsasaki> Yves: interesting idea, I'll try
16:41:24 <fsasaki> s/parameters/parameters for XPath/
16:41:38 <fsasaki> topic: ITS Streaming processor
16:42:39 <fsasaki> Yves: seems no real way for complex XPath expressions streaming
16:43:22 <fsasaki> action: Yves to start cleaning up the wiki
16:43:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Start cleaning up the wiki [on Yves Savourel - due 2008-12-30].
16:43:50 <fsasaki> AI Felix to create a wiki page with overview of work items  - dropped
16:43:53 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
16:44:00 <fsasaki> Yves: have a great holiday!
16:44:19 <Zakim> -Christian
16:44:20 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
16:44:21 <Zakim> -Jirka
16:44:23 <Zakim> I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM has ended
16:44:25 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, [SAP], Christian, +420.4.811.2.aaaa, Jirka
16:44:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/23-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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16:46:59 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
16:46:59 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/23-i18nits-actions.rdf :
16:46:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to review widget spec [1]
16:46:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/23-i18nits-irc#T16-08-15
16:46:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to look at OWL [2]
16:46:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/23-i18nits-irc#T16-09-33
16:46:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to call Kara Warburton asking for the latest ISO draft [3]
16:46:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/23-i18nits-irc#T16-13-17
16:46:59 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to start cleaning up the wiki [4]
16:46:59 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/23-i18nits-irc#T16-43-22
16:47:01 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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