IRC log of sml on 2008-12-18
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-irc
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- 18:59:11 [lencharest]
- zakim, this will be XML_SMLWG
- 18:59:11 [Zakim]
- ok, lencharest; I see XML_SMLWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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- XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has now started
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- + +1.425.896.aaaa
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- +johnarwe_
- 19:01:49 [johnarwe_]
- zakim, aaaa is len
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- +len; got it
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- +Kirk
- 19:03:16 [lencharest]
- scribe: Len Charest
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- scribeNick: lencharest
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- meeting: SML WG Teleconference
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- chair: John
- 19:04:46 [johnarwe_]
- does msm have power, and/or will he be joining us?
- 19:06:25 [lencharest]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Dec/0031.html
- 19:06:47 [johnarwe_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Dec/att-0030/20081211-sml-minutes.html
- 19:06:56 [lencharest]
- Topic: Approval of minutes from Dec 11
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- Resolution: Minutes approved
- 19:08:16 [lencharest]
- Topic: Action 208
- 19:10:04 [lencharest]
- John: Action is complete, will be closed
- 19:10:43 [lencharest]
- Regrets: Sandy, Ginny
- 19:10:56 [MSM]
- zakim, please call MSM-617
- 19:10:56 [Zakim]
- ok, MSM; the call is being made
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- +MSM
- 19:11:04 [MSM]
- zakim, drop me
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- MSM is being disconnected
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- -MSM
- 19:11:30 [MSM]
- zakim, please call MSM-617
- 19:11:30 [Zakim]
- ok, MSM; the call is being made
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- +MSM
- 19:11:44 [MSM]
- zakim, who's here?
- 19:11:44 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see len, johnarwe_, Kirk, MSM
- 19:11:45 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see Kirk_, johnarwe_, Zakim, RRSAgent, lencharest, MSM, trackbot
- 19:11:56 [lencharest]
- Topic: Action 209
- 19:18:18 [lencharest]
- MSM: W3 auto-generated namespace docs for the old/obsolete SML-related namespaces
- 19:19:30 [johnarwe_]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Dec/0038.html
- 19:19:42 [lencharest]
- MSM: Propose adding text to the auto-generated namespace docs declaring the namespaces to be obsolete/superseded
- 19:20:07 [johnarwe_]
- near the end, starting with NB, is an indented draft for "superseded"\
- 19:22:31 [lencharest]
- RESOLUTION: Update the old namespace docs with text similar to that in the above referenced mail message
- 19:22:58 [lencharest]
- ACTION: MSM to draft updates to old namespace docs
- 19:22:58 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-210 - Draft updates to old namespace docs [on Michael Sperberg-McQueen - due 2008-12-25].
- 19:26:38 [lencharest]
- John: Propose updating current namespace docs to contain the text that the WG agreed to
- 19:26:48 [MSM]
- I see that strictly speaking what Kumar drafted was a 'namespace policy'. So perhaps the best action is to add the approved namespace policy to the current ns documents.
- 19:27:04 [MSM]
- draft policy provided 17 November at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Nov/0034.html
- 19:27:48 [johnarwe_]
- http://www.w3.org/ns/sml.html
- 19:28:00 [MSM]
- http://www.w3.org/ns/sml
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- also resolves
- 19:31:56 [lencharest]
- RESOLUTION: Update the current namespace docs by appending the text re namespace policy that the WG has already approved
- 19:32:40 [johnarwe_]
- note: append was used in the colloquial sense of "incorporate", not the lteral programmer sense
- 19:33:07 [lencharest]
- RESOLUTION: Update the current namespace docs to accurately reflect the location of schema documents
- 19:33:32 [lencharest]
- ACTION: MSM to update the current namespace docs by appending the text re namespace policy that the WG has already approved
- 19:33:33 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-211 - Update the current namespace docs by appending the text re namespace policy that the WG has already approved [on Michael Sperberg-McQueen - due 2008-12-25].
- 19:33:51 [lencharest]
- ACTION: MSM to update the current namespace docs to accurately reflect the location of schema documents
- 19:33:51 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-212 - Update the current namespace docs to accurately reflect the location of schema documents [on Michael Sperberg-McQueen - due 2008-12-25].
- 19:34:11 [lencharest]
- John: Closing action 209
- 19:35:06 [lencharest]
- Topic: EPR ref scheme note
- 19:35:28 [lencharest]
- Kirk: Completed filling in bib reference info
- 19:35:36 [lencharest]
- ... but having trouble with CVS
- 19:36:08 [lencharest]
- Len: Agrees to check in doc on behalf of Kirk
- 19:36:41 [lencharest]
- John: How will you convert Word doc to HTML?
- 19:39:13 [lencharest]
- Len: "Save as filtered HTML" in Word
- 19:39:36 [lencharest]
- MSM: Post-editing may be required to satisfy pubrules
- 19:43:16 [lencharest]
- Len: Volunteer to perform necessary post-conversion editing on both notes to satisfy pubrules
- 19:43:40 [lencharest]
- John: Do we want to review Word version of notes before conversion and editing?
- 19:44:15 [lencharest]
- Kirk: Propose that we perform conversion without additional review, will review HTML versions
- 19:44:53 [lencharest]
- RESOLUTION: Perform conversion of notes without additional review, will review HTML versions
- 19:45:16 [lencharest]
- ACTION: lencharest to convert notes to HTML and satisfy pubrules
- 19:45:16 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - lencharest
- 19:45:29 [lencharest]
- ACTION: Len to convert notes to HTML and satisfy pubrules
- 19:45:29 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-213 - Convert notes to HTML and satisfy pubrules [on Len Charest - due 2008-12-25].
- 19:45:45 [lencharest]
- rrsagent, create minutes
- 19:45:45 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-minutes.html lencharest
- 19:47:03 [lencharest]
- Topic: Bug 5492
- 19:50:02 [lencharest]
- No resolution
- 19:51:21 [lencharest]
- Topic: Prescribed behavior of SML-IF with no schema docs included
- 19:52:21 [lencharest]
- COSMOS has interpreted the spec contrary to the intent of the WG
- 19:52:32 [lencharest]
- Conclusion: text is not clear
- 19:52:50 [lencharest]
- s/clear/ambiguous/
- 19:53:09 [lencharest]
- John: Shall we draft new text to clarify the issue?
- 19:53:51 [lencharest]
- RESOLUTION: Add text to the SML-IF spec to clarify WG intent around this issue
- 19:55:49 [lencharest]
- Topic: Test case revisions
- 19:56:19 [lencharest]
- s/not ambiguous/ambiguous/
- 19:57:41 [lencharest]
- Topic: Cell formulas in feature-test-map sheet of XSLX spreadsheet
- 19:59:09 [lencharest]
- Ginny suggests that the cell formulas on the feature-test-map are incorrect.
- 19:59:45 [lencharest]
- Len: I looked at it, but I'm not the Excel guru you're looking for
- 20:00:03 [lencharest]
- John: Suggest asking Pratul for assistance
- 20:00:21 [johnarwe_]
- sample impl reports... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Dec/0032.html
- 20:00:24 [lencharest]
- Topic: Feedback on draft implementation report
- 20:06:25 [lencharest]
- John: Looking at the content of the Feature Name column in SMLFeatureImplementationReport.html, it appears that some decisions from previous WG meetings have not yet been incorporated into the spreadsheet
- 20:07:35 [lencharest]
- Len: Volunteers to grovel the minutes and make the appropriate updates to the spreadsheet
- 20:08:58 [lencharest]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 20:09:08 [lencharest]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 20:09:08 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-minutes.html lencharest
- 20:15:57 [lencharest]
- John: SMLTestCaseImplementationResults.html reveals some inconsistencies in the spreadsheet
- 20:17:20 [lencharest]
- John: Need consensus on rows where expected result is missing or inconsistent
- 20:21:03 [lencharest]
- John: Also need to express multiple primary features in such a way that spreadsheet<->XML roundtrippin is preserved
- 20:21:27 [lencharest]
- ... or drop XSLX in favor of XML version of data
- 20:21:48 [lencharest]
- s/roundtrippin/round-tripping/
- 20:23:32 [lencharest]
- Topic: Next meeting
- 20:23:53 [Zakim]
- -MSM
- 20:23:54 [lencharest]
- John: WG is in recess for 2 weeks
- 20:23:56 [Zakim]
- -johnarwe_
- 20:24:00 [Zakim]
- -Kirk
- 20:24:02 [johnarwe_]
- s/2/3/\
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- -len
- 20:24:11 [Zakim]
- XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has ended
- 20:24:13 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +1.425.896.aaaa, johnarwe_, len, Kirk, MSM
- 20:24:19 [johnarwe_]
- 3 weeks to jan 8, since jan 1 is a holiday for virtually all in us
- 20:24:21 [lencharest]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 20:24:21 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-minutes.html lencharest
- 20:41:07 [johnarwe_]
- johnarwe_ has left #sml
- 21:32:57 [lencharest]
- rrsagent, bye
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: MSM to draft updates to old namespace docs [1]
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-irc#T19-22-58
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: MSM to update the current namespace docs by appending the text re namespace policy that the WG has already approved [2]
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-irc#T19-33-32
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- ACTION: MSM to update the current namespace docs to accurately reflect the location of schema documents [3]
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-irc#T19-33-51
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: lencharest to convert notes to HTML and satisfy pubrules [4]
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-irc#T19-45-16
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Len to convert notes to HTML and satisfy pubrules [5]
- 21:32:57 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-sml-irc#T19-45-29