16:11:06 RRSAgent has joined #rdfa 16:11:06 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc 16:11:25 Chair: benadida 16:11:29 scribe: benadida 16:12:35 bringing Mark up to speed on the @prefix discussion from last week 16:14:19 ... no need to confuse things with prefix="=u1" 16:15:03 Mark: agree on this need not to confuse things with prefix="=u1" 16:15:38 ... agree on concept of prefix="p1=u1 p2=u2", but may argue about specific attribute name, a bit uncomfortable with = inside attr 16:16:34 Ben: colon instead? 16:16:37 Shane: hah! 16:17:03 ... don't know that anyone's had this particular assignment problem before. 16:17:27 ... XSLT? 16:17:32 Mark: they don't use "=" 16:18:10 ... schemaLocation? space-separated values 16:19:43 Mark: haven't finished the "bundle idea" writeup. Not until new year. 16:20:22 xmlns:Agent="http://purl.org/dc/terms/Agent" 16:20:23 xmlns:vcard="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person" 16:20:23 xmlns:title="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/title" 16:20:24 xmlns:fn="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name" 16:20:24 xmlns:url="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/homepage" 16:20:25 > 16:20:27

about="http://www.ivan-herman.net/me" 16:20:31 typeof="vcard Agent" 16:20:33 > 16:20:35

16:20:37 Dr 16:20:39 Ivan Herman 16:20:42

16:20:43 >Ivan Herman's homepage 16:20:47

16:20:49 16:20:58 Ben: talked last time about using RDF to map tokens to full URLs 16:21:03 Mark: yes, see example above 16:21:40 ... critics will say that this looks too complicated. 16:21:59 ... so take xmlns declarations out into different document. 16:25:11 Ben: worried about how existing RDFa might generate new triples later. 16:26:47 Mark: don't have a problem with a different syntax, as long as we have this tokenization approach. 16:27:15 q+ 16:27:22 ack Shane 16:27:38 Mark: could be a feature of only @prefix or @token 16:27:48 Shane: is there a follow-your-nose story here? 16:27:54 Mark: still working on that. 16:28:12 ... trying to make it as close to microformats as possible, but they're not completely consistent. 16:29:17 ... trying to leverage existing microformat work + XDMP 16:29:34 Shane: description of a way to do this with extended XMDP mechanism 16:29:36 ... on wiki 16:30:31 Mark: would be good to have a full follow your nose 16:32:10 Ben: I like the idea that a single attribute would provide both the ability to define prefixes without xmlns *and* the new token feature for bundles of terms 16:34:09 a:b a x:y . 16:34:34 Mark: if you know the context of something, then why bother with a:b. 16:34:41 ... letter a is fine if you've got context. 16:34:59 ... it's good to move away from the qname world to a token-mapping world. 16:35:29 ... maybe a good reason to call it @token rather than @prefix. 16:38:02 Topic: email issues 16:38:28 recursion when datatype is xmlliteral 16:39:29 CONSENSUS: we agree that when datatype is plain, recursion continues, when datatype is xmlliteral, recursion stops. 16:40:09 @about on head 16:45:55 problematic example: 16:46:00 16:46:07 16:46:11 16:46:29 http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-syntax/#sec_5.5. 16:47:43 "If no URI is provided by a resource attribute, then the first match from the following rules will apply: 16:47:44 if the element is the head or body element then act as if there is an empty @about present, and process it according to the rule for @about, above;" 16:48:11 In 5.5 16:48:14 step 4 16:49:20 16:53:05 http://a.b.com#xyz 16:53:16 http://a.b.com 16:54:09 about="" 16:59:57 absolute-URI = scheme ":" hier-part [ "?" query ] 17:03:13 ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY 17:03:13 Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel 17:03:24 rrsagent, this is rdfa 17:03:24 I'm logging. I don't understand 'this is rdfa', benadida. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:03:58 -markbirbeck 17:04:00 -Ben_Adida 17:04:02 -ShaneM 17:04:03 SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended 17:04:04 Attendees were McCarron, Ben_Adida, markbirbeck, +1.763.767.aaaa, ShaneM 17:04:54 rrsagent, what are the action items? 17:04:54 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-actions.rdf : 17:04:54 ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [1] 17:04:54 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc#T17-03-13 17:05:15 trackbot, log out 17:05:15 Sorry, benadida, I don't understand 'trackbot, log out'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help 17:05:41 trackbot, status 17:05:41 This channel is not configured 17:06:00 trackbot, end telecon 17:06:00 Sorry, benadida, I don't understand 'trackbot, end telecon'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help 17:06:43 Meeting: RDFa Task Force 17:06:58 ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY 17:06:58 Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel 17:08:38 [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to add public-rdfa examples to wiki and think of slightly improved top-level organization [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] 17:08:44 [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] 17:08:50 [PENDING] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] 17:08:54 rrsagent, list actions 17:08:54 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-actions.rdf : 17:08:54 ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [1] 17:08:54 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc#T17-03-13 17:08:54 ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [2] 17:08:54 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc#T17-06-58 17:09:12 [PENDING] ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action04] 17:09:18 [PENDING] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] 17:09:23 [PENDING] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] 17:09:27 [PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] 17:09:31 [PENDING] ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] 17:09:35 [PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] 17:09:42 [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14] 17:09:47 [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] 17:10:02 rrsagent, make notes public 17:10:02 I'm logging. I don't understand 'make notes public', benadida. Try /msg RRSAgent help 17:11:25 rrsagent, make logs public 17:11:39 scribenick: benadida 17:11:43 rrsagent, make logs public 17:11:48 rrsagent, bookmark 17:11:48 See http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc#T17-11-48 17:22:39 ShaneM has joined #rdfa 18:37:08 Zakim has left #rdfa 19:49:39 markbirbeck has joined #rdfa 20:15:14 ShaneM has joined #rdfa 21:41:06 ShaneM has left #rdfa