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14:56:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
14:56:30 <trackbot> Date: 18 December 2008
14:56:44 <francois> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Dec/0017.html
14:56:47 <francois> Chair: DKA
14:57:43 <francois> Regrets: jo, kai, manrique, sangwhan, abel, jeffs, rob, miguel
14:58:38 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started
14:58:47 <Zakim> +DKA
14:58:48 <DKA> Yo yo.
15:00:23 <Zakim> +Francois
15:00:42 <Zakim> +??P6
15:00:48 <yeliz> zakim, ??P6 is yeliz
15:00:48 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
15:01:00 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
15:01:06 <Zakim> yeliz should now be muted
15:11:56 <dom> Regrets+ Dom
15:12:00 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
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15:12:00 <DKA> zakim, who is here?
15:12:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see DKA, Francois, yeliz
15:12:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, yeliz, DKA, francois, trackbot, dom
15:12:28 <DKA> Topic: MWABP
15:12:34 <DKA> ScribeNick: DKA
15:12:36 <DKA> Scribe: Dan
15:13:15 <DKA> PROPOSE RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).
15:14:11 <DKA> Dan: Francois, your thoughts?
15:14:36 <DKA> Francois: Yes I agree we should publish a new version. On SVG section some concerns but there is an editorial note so maybe not such a big deal.
15:15:06 <DKA> Francois: One of the SVG BPs is use svgt 1.1 - and that's restrictive time - so this is like defining an ADC.
15:15:16 <DKA> Francois: And the other BPs are applied to SVG...
15:15:39 <DKA> Dan: I agree more work needs to be done but on balance I think worth releasing a new draft now.
15:16:00 <DKA> Dan: Also - a lot of the issues that we've discussed with Adam have been addressed...
15:16:26 <DKA> Dan: Jo was also supportive of publication - though he had a lot of editorial comments that he planned to make.
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15:17:19 <DKA> Yeliz: I had some comments on the previous version but adam addressed all of them already.
15:17:28 <DKA> Francois: Did Jo plan to send comments before publication?
15:17:35 <DKA> Dan: He thought it could wait.
15:17:35 <Zakim> +??P2
15:17:53 <francois> zakim, ??P2 is achuter
15:17:53 <Zakim> +achuter; got it
15:17:57 <dom> zakim, code?
15:17:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
15:18:20 <Zakim> +dom
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15:18:48 <dom> zakim, mute alan
15:18:48 <Zakim> sorry, dom, I do not know which phone connection belongs to alan
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15:19:13 <DKA> Dan: Any thoughts from Dom?
15:19:31 <DKA> PROPOSE RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).
15:19:35 <DKA> +1
15:19:38 <yeliz> +1
15:19:39 <dom> +1
15:19:43 <francois> +1
15:19:49 <dom> [dom is so happy]
15:20:00 <dom> [and that's not related at all to him being on vacation in one hour]
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15:20:08 <DKA> RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).
15:20:35 <dom> Regrets- Dom
15:20:59 <achuter> Now that WCAG 2.0 is published, the WG should review the relationship document
15:21:34 <dom> zakim, mute me
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15:21:56 <DKA> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Congratulations to WCAG working group for publication of WCAG 2.0 as a Recommendation!
15:22:05 <francois> +1
15:22:08 <DKA> +1
15:22:16 <DKA> RESOLUTION: Congratulations to WCAG working group for publication of WCAG 2.0 as a Recommendation!
15:23:06 <dom> [and there was much rejoicing]
15:23:31 <DKA> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: no main working group calls until 8 Jan.
15:23:43 <dom> +1
15:23:47 <francois> +1
15:23:47 <DKA> +1
15:23:50 <achuter> +1
15:23:50 <yeliz> +1
15:23:54 <DKA> RESOLUTION: no main working group calls until 8 Jan.
15:24:24 <DKA> Dan: When is the next CT call?
15:24:44 <DKA> Francois: 6 jan - propose to still hold it and then move the work to the main body of the wg after that.
15:25:01 <DKA> Francois: Dan suggested that we bring the CT task force back to he main body of the working group.
15:25:29 <dom> zakim, unmute me
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15:25:33 <DKA> Francois: So that we can consolidate the brains (to also work on MWABP) and so the main body of the working group can help the CT taskforce solve its remaining issues.
15:26:09 <DKA> Dom: So just 1 call?
15:26:14 <DKA> Francois: Yes.
15:26:51 <DKA> Dom: the only problem I could see is that it reduces the bandwidth on that document...
15:27:01 <dom> "close to be done" - famous last words
15:27:08 <DKA> Francois: We are close to being done on CT tf...
15:27:11 <DKA> :)
15:27:39 <DKA> Francois: We created an issue on tuesday specifically because we wanted the advice of the working group as a whole - on links rewriting.
15:27:53 <DKA> Dom: Let's give it a try.
15:28:44 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
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15:28:46 <DKA> [discussion of call times]
15:28:54 <dom> (also, we have two invited experts that participate specifically to the TF - we would need to see if they can join the new time)
15:29:58 <DKA> Dom: Moving the call earlier could be problematic because we have another call at this time [2:00 UK on Thursday].
15:30:16 <DKA> Dan: Another option would be to just do the tuesday call...
15:30:41 <DKA> Dan: We need to put these options into a poll.
15:31:22 <DKA> Dan: We should make the combination of ct and bp-main the basis of the poll.
15:31:34 <DKA> Francois: OK - I will create a poll on this.
15:31:51 <DKA> Dom: Yes - we should plan to meet at the same time and date at least for the 1st week of jan.
15:31:54 <DKA> +1
15:32:22 <DKA> Francois: 3 choices in the poll -- on thursday at the same time; on thursday 1 hr earlier; on tuesday at time of current ct call
15:32:26 <DKA> Dan: Right.
15:32:39 <DKA> Dom: One issue is that the CT call is scheduled for 60...
15:32:45 <DKA> Dan: I think we need 90.
15:33:40 <DKA> Dan: We'll take a resolution on the call on the 8th of Jan as to what to do with the meeting schedules.
15:35:00 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
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15:35:05 <DKA> Topic: Relationship of Mobile to Acc document
15:35:23 <DKA> Francois: now that wcag 2.0 is published what's happening with "relationship" document?
15:35:46 <DKA> Yeliz: the plan was to publish it after wcag 2.0 becomes a rec. - but not sure when that will happen.
15:36:33 <DKA> Francois: At last f2f - Shawn mentioned that there was going to be a poll prior to publication of "recommendation" - so will there be an intermediary publication or will these documents have a final publication.
15:36:44 <DKA> Yeliz: My understanding was a final publication but not sure about time plan.
15:36:49 <DKA> Yeliz: I will talk to Shawn.
15:37:19 <DKA> Dan: I don't think it'll happen before moriatorium...
15:38:08 <dom> zakim, mute cellphones
15:38:08 <Zakim> sorry, dom, I do not know which phone connection belongs to cellphones
15:38:31 <Zakim> -dom
15:38:33 <Zakim> -DKA
15:38:35 <Zakim> -yeliz
15:38:37 <Zakim> -Francois
15:38:45 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:38:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-bpwg-minutes.html francois
15:43:26 <francois> zakim, who is on the call?
15:43:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see achuter
15:48:27 <francois> zakim, who is on the call?
15:48:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see achuter
15:49:14 <dom> zakim, drop achuter
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15:49:16 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
15:49:17 <Zakim> Attendees were DKA, Francois, yeliz, achuter, dom
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15:50:43 <francois> zakim, drop achuter
15:50:43 <Zakim> sorry, francois, I don't know what conference this is
15:51:16 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:51:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-bpwg-minutes.html francois
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17:28:29 <francois> rrsagent, bye
17:28:29 <RRSAgent> I see no action items