IRC log of bpwg on 2008-12-18

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Zakim, this will be BPWG
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ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 18 December 2008
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Dec/0017.html
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Chair: DKA
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Regrets: jo, kai, manrique, sangwhan, abel, jeffs, rob, miguel
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MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started
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+DKA
14:58:48 [DKA]
Yo yo.
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+Francois
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+??P6
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zakim, ??P6 is yeliz
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+yeliz; got it
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
15:11:56 [dom]
Regrets+ Dom
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zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
15:12:00 [DKA]
zakim, who is here?
15:12:01 [Zakim]
On the phone I see DKA, Francois, yeliz
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On IRC I see RRSAgent, yeliz, DKA, francois, trackbot, dom
15:12:28 [DKA]
Topic: MWABP
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ScribeNick: DKA
15:12:36 [DKA]
Scribe: Dan
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PROPOSE RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).
15:14:11 [DKA]
Dan: Francois, your thoughts?
15:14:36 [DKA]
Francois: Yes I agree we should publish a new version. On SVG section some concerns but there is an editorial note so maybe not such a big deal.
15:15:06 [DKA]
Francois: One of the SVG BPs is use svgt 1.1 - and that's restrictive time - so this is like defining an ADC.
15:15:16 [DKA]
Francois: And the other BPs are applied to SVG...
15:15:39 [DKA]
Dan: I agree more work needs to be done but on balance I think worth releasing a new draft now.
15:16:00 [DKA]
Dan: Also - a lot of the issues that we've discussed with Adam have been addressed...
15:16:26 [DKA]
Dan: Jo was also supportive of publication - though he had a lot of editorial comments that he planned to make.
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Yeliz: I had some comments on the previous version but adam addressed all of them already.
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Francois: Did Jo plan to send comments before publication?
15:17:35 [DKA]
Dan: He thought it could wait.
15:17:35 [Zakim]
+??P2
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zakim, ??P2 is achuter
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+achuter; got it
15:17:57 [dom]
zakim, code?
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the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
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+dom
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
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zakim, mute alan
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sorry, dom, I do not know which phone connection belongs to alan
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zakim, mute achuter
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achuter should now be muted
15:19:13 [DKA]
Dan: Any thoughts from Dom?
15:19:31 [DKA]
PROPOSE RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).
15:19:35 [DKA]
+1
15:19:38 [yeliz]
+1
15:19:39 [dom]
+1
15:19:43 [francois]
+1
15:19:49 [dom]
[dom is so happy]
15:20:00 [dom]
[and that's not related at all to him being on vacation in one hour]
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zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
15:20:08 [DKA]
RESOLUTION: Request publication of a new draft of MWABP - the latest draft from Adam - today (prior to pub moriatorium).
15:20:35 [dom]
Regrets- Dom
15:20:59 [achuter]
Now that WCAG 2.0 is published, the WG should review the relationship document
15:21:34 [dom]
zakim, mute me
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dom should now be muted
15:21:56 [DKA]
PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Congratulations to WCAG working group for publication of WCAG 2.0 as a Recommendation!
15:22:05 [francois]
+1
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+1
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RESOLUTION: Congratulations to WCAG working group for publication of WCAG 2.0 as a Recommendation!
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[and there was much rejoicing]
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PROPOSED RESOLUTION: no main working group calls until 8 Jan.
15:23:43 [dom]
+1
15:23:47 [francois]
+1
15:23:47 [DKA]
+1
15:23:50 [achuter]
+1
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+1
15:23:54 [DKA]
RESOLUTION: no main working group calls until 8 Jan.
15:24:24 [DKA]
Dan: When is the next CT call?
15:24:44 [DKA]
Francois: 6 jan - propose to still hold it and then move the work to the main body of the wg after that.
15:25:01 [DKA]
Francois: Dan suggested that we bring the CT task force back to he main body of the working group.
15:25:29 [dom]
zakim, unmute me
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dom should no longer be muted
15:25:33 [DKA]
Francois: So that we can consolidate the brains (to also work on MWABP) and so the main body of the working group can help the CT taskforce solve its remaining issues.
15:26:09 [DKA]
Dom: So just 1 call?
15:26:14 [DKA]
Francois: Yes.
15:26:51 [DKA]
Dom: the only problem I could see is that it reduces the bandwidth on that document...
15:27:01 [dom]
"close to be done" - famous last words
15:27:08 [DKA]
Francois: We are close to being done on CT tf...
15:27:11 [DKA]
:)
15:27:39 [DKA]
Francois: We created an issue on tuesday specifically because we wanted the advice of the working group as a whole - on links rewriting.
15:27:53 [DKA]
Dom: Let's give it a try.
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zakim, mute yeliz
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yeliz should now be muted
15:28:46 [DKA]
[discussion of call times]
15:28:54 [dom]
(also, we have two invited experts that participate specifically to the TF - we would need to see if they can join the new time)
15:29:58 [DKA]
Dom: Moving the call earlier could be problematic because we have another call at this time [2:00 UK on Thursday].
15:30:16 [DKA]
Dan: Another option would be to just do the tuesday call...
15:30:41 [DKA]
Dan: We need to put these options into a poll.
15:31:22 [DKA]
Dan: We should make the combination of ct and bp-main the basis of the poll.
15:31:34 [DKA]
Francois: OK - I will create a poll on this.
15:31:51 [DKA]
Dom: Yes - we should plan to meet at the same time and date at least for the 1st week of jan.
15:31:54 [DKA]
+1
15:32:22 [DKA]
Francois: 3 choices in the poll -- on thursday at the same time; on thursday 1 hr earlier; on tuesday at time of current ct call
15:32:26 [DKA]
Dan: Right.
15:32:39 [DKA]
Dom: One issue is that the CT call is scheduled for 60...
15:32:45 [DKA]
Dan: I think we need 90.
15:33:40 [DKA]
Dan: We'll take a resolution on the call on the 8th of Jan as to what to do with the meeting schedules.
15:35:00 [yeliz]
zakim, unmute yeliz
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yeliz should no longer be muted
15:35:05 [DKA]
Topic: Relationship of Mobile to Acc document
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Francois: now that wcag 2.0 is published what's happening with "relationship" document?
15:35:46 [DKA]
Yeliz: the plan was to publish it after wcag 2.0 becomes a rec. - but not sure when that will happen.
15:36:33 [DKA]
Francois: At last f2f - Shawn mentioned that there was going to be a poll prior to publication of "recommendation" - so will there be an intermediary publication or will these documents have a final publication.
15:36:44 [DKA]
Yeliz: My understanding was a final publication but not sure about time plan.
15:36:49 [DKA]
Yeliz: I will talk to Shawn.
15:37:19 [DKA]
Dan: I don't think it'll happen before moriatorium...
15:38:08 [dom]
zakim, mute cellphones
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sorry, dom, I do not know which phone connection belongs to cellphones
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-dom
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-DKA
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-yeliz
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-Francois
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-bpwg-minutes.html francois
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zakim, who is on the call?
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On the phone I see achuter
15:48:27 [francois]
zakim, who is on the call?
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On the phone I see achuter
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zakim, drop achuter
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achuter is being disconnected
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MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were DKA, Francois, yeliz, achuter, dom
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15:50:43 [francois]
zakim, drop achuter
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sorry, francois, I don't know what conference this is
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-bpwg-minutes.html francois
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rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items