IRC log of er on 2008-12-17
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-er-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be 3794
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
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- Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 17 December 2008
- 13:27:48 [MikeS]
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- WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
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- + +1.512.823.aaaa
- 13:29:45 [shadi]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Dec/0010.html
- 13:29:53 [shadi]
- agenda+ HTTP-in-RDF
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- agenda+ Content-in-RDF
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- agenda+ Pointers-in-RDF
- 13:30:12 [shadi]
- zkaim, call shadi-617
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- zakim, call shadi-617
- 13:30:18 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; the call is being made
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- - +1.512.823.aaaa
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- + +1.512.823.aaaa
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- +Shadi
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- zakim, aaaa is Mike
- 13:30:32 [Zakim]
- +Mike; got it
- 13:31:38 [shadi]
- agenda+ Next meeting
- 13:31:48 [shadi]
- agenda?
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- drop, agendum 1
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- zakim drop, agendum 1
- 13:32:29 [shadi]
- zakim, drop agendum 1
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- agendum 1, EARL 1.0 Schema, dropped
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- zakim, drop agendum 2
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- agendum 2, Action Item Check, dropped
- 13:33:47 [carlosI]
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- +Carlos_Iglesias
- 13:35:52 [shadi]
- http://www.eramp.com/wcag_theme_song.htm
- 13:36:19 [MikeS]
- Scribe: Mike
- 13:38:14 [shadi]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:38:14 [Zakim]
- Shadi should now be muted
- 13:38:16 [MikeS]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:38:16 [Zakim]
- sorry, MikeS, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
- 13:39:43 [shadi]
- zakim, unmute me
- 13:39:43 [Zakim]
- Shadi should no longer be muted
- 13:40:03 [MikeS]
- Topic: Pointers in RDF
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- zakim, take up agendum 5
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- agendum 5. "Pointers-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
- 13:40:32 [MikeS]
- SAZ: is there an update?
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- CI: need to finish editing and have look at schema
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- ...doubts about status of the conformance section, which relates to questionable status in other docs as well
- 13:41:39 [JohannesK]
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- +cvelasco
- 13:41:56 [JohannesK]
- Zakim, cvelasco is JohannesK
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- +JohannesK; got it
- 13:42:36 [MikeS]
- ...some open questions that will be included as editor's notes
- 13:43:19 [JohannesK]
- belated regrets from CarlosV
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- SAZ: any questions that demand feedback?
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- CI: HtmlPointer - an outstanding action or what is its status?
- 13:45:21 [MikeS]
- ...placeholder remains
- 13:46:42 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tracker/actions/open
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tracker/actions/58
- 13:49:56 [MikeS]
- CI: will provide next draft of Pointers in RDF for first meeting in January
- 13:50:15 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "HTTP-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
- 13:50:26 [MikeS]
- Topic: Http in RDF
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF-20081216
- 13:52:19 [shadi]
- zakim, mute mike
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- Mike should now be muted
- 13:52:55 [MikeS]
- JK: changed 'domain of' and 'range of'; using format of DLs
- 13:53:39 [MikeS]
- ...more internal linking from properties to classes and vice versa
- 13:53:56 [MikeS]
- ...issue in Sec 3.1 regarding range of body property
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- SAZ: section entitled 'Status of this document' needs chnages; Shadi will do
- 13:55:38 [MikeS]
- ...what about SPARQL queries?
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- Note: I have an outstanding action to look at SPARQL and POWDR for how they handle conformance
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- SAZ: keep it open but lean toward Content in RDF?
- 13:58:53 [MikeS]
- JK: may not be possible to have range of cnt:content if one wnated to have multiple pieces of content
- 13:59:12 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20081126#Assertor
- 14:00:09 [MikeS]
- ...leave range unspecified and keep introductory paragraph
- 14:03:34 [MikeS]
- ....would a conforming Http in RDF-reading application be required to process cnt vocabulary?
- 14:04:14 [MikeS]
- SAZ: yes - should expect cnt-pocessing
- 14:05:41 [MikeS]
- CI: strange to suggest that http in RDF apps would also need to conform to Content in RDF vocabulary
- 14:06:28 [MikeS]
- agree with leaving it more open
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- RESOLUTION: leave body property open but encourage the use of cnt:content to represent body
- 14:07:20 [MikeS]
- SAZ: up to JK as to how to express this in the document
- 14:08:24 [MikeS]
- ...will resolve conformance issues in EARL 1.0 Schema document and then apply that resolution to other docs
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- +1
- 14:10:08 [carlosI]
- +1
- 14:11:08 [MikeS]
- JK: removed schema from document but on-line version needs to be synced
- 14:12:07 [shadi]
- - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/http.rdfs>
- 14:12:07 [shadi]
- - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/content.rdfs>
- 14:13:09 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:13:09 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Content-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:13:13 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/WD-Content-in-RDF-20081216
- 14:13:15 [MikeS]
- Topic: Representing Content in RDF
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- SAZ: using xsd data types?
- 14:14:41 [MikeS]
- CI: makes sense
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- +1
- 14:15:12 [MikeS]
- JK: xsd data types already there
- 14:16:16 [MikeS]
- SAZ: remainder of group should review document
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- SAZ: comments about WG in general before winter break?
- 14:17:34 [MikeS]
- ...Pointers in RDF moving along
- 14:17:47 [MikeS]
- ...conformance questions need to be resolved for toher docs
- 14:18:36 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 5. "Pointers-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:19:25 [MikeS]
- zakim, take up agendum 6
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- agendum 6. "Next meeting" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:19:59 [MikeS]
- SAZ: Jan 7 or Jan 14?
- 14:20:05 [MikeS]
- JK: jan 7
- 14:20:09 [MikeS]
- +1 for Jan 7
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- CI: jan 7
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- Happy Holidays, everyone
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- -JohannesK
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- -Shadi
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- -Mike
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- zakim, drop carlosi
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- Carlos_Iglesias is being disconnected
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- WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.512.823.aaaa, Shadi, Mike, Carlos_Iglesias, JohannesK
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- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 14:27:21 [Zakim]
- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 14:27:22 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-er-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
- 14:27:23 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items