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13:25:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:25:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3794
13:25:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:25:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
13:25:28 <trackbot> Date: 17 December 2008
13:27:48 <MikeS> MikeS has joined #er
13:28:43 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
13:28:50 <Zakim> + +1.512.823.aaaa
13:29:45 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Dec/0010.html
13:29:53 <shadi> agenda+ HTTP-in-RDF
13:29:59 <shadi> agenda+ Content-in-RDF
13:30:05 <shadi> agenda+ Pointers-in-RDF
13:30:12 <shadi> zkaim, call shadi-617
13:30:18 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:30:18 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:30:19 <Zakim> - +1.512.823.aaaa
13:30:19 <Zakim> + +1.512.823.aaaa
13:30:20 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:30:31 <shadi> zakim, aaaa is Mike
13:30:32 <Zakim> +Mike; got it
13:31:38 <shadi> agenda+ Next meeting
13:31:48 <shadi> agenda?
13:32:13 <shadi> drop, agendum 1
13:32:19 <shadi> zakim drop, agendum 1
13:32:29 <shadi> zakim, drop agendum 1
13:32:29 <Zakim> agendum 1, EARL 1.0 Schema, dropped
13:32:32 <shadi> zakim, drop agendum 2
13:32:32 <Zakim> agendum 2, Action Item Check, dropped
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13:34:32 <Zakim> +Carlos_Iglesias
13:35:52 <shadi> http://www.eramp.com/wcag_theme_song.htm
13:36:19 <MikeS> Scribe: Mike
13:38:14 <shadi> zakim, mute me
13:38:14 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:38:16 <MikeS> zakim, mute me
13:38:16 <Zakim> sorry, MikeS, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
13:39:43 <shadi> zakim, unmute me
13:39:43 <Zakim> Shadi should no longer be muted
13:40:03 <MikeS> Topic: Pointers in RDF
13:40:03 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 5
13:40:03 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Pointers-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
13:40:32 <MikeS> SAZ: is there an update?
13:40:52 <MikeS> CI: need to finish editing and have look at schema
13:41:37 <MikeS> ...doubts about status of the conformance section, which relates to questionable status in other docs as well
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13:41:40 <Zakim> +cvelasco
13:41:56 <JohannesK> Zakim, cvelasco is JohannesK
13:41:56 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
13:42:36 <MikeS> ...some open questions that will be included as editor's notes
13:43:19 <JohannesK> belated regrets from CarlosV
13:44:32 <MikeS> SAZ: any questions that demand feedback?
13:45:12 <MikeS> CI: HtmlPointer - an outstanding action or what is its status?
13:45:21 <MikeS> ...placeholder remains
13:46:42 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tracker/actions/open
13:47:35 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tracker/actions/58
13:49:56 <MikeS> CI: will provide next draft of Pointers in RDF for first meeting in January
13:50:15 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
13:50:15 <Zakim> agendum 3. "HTTP-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
13:50:26 <MikeS> Topic: Http in RDF
13:50:56 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF-20081216
13:52:19 <shadi> zakim, mute mike
13:52:19 <Zakim> Mike should now be muted
13:52:55 <MikeS> JK: changed 'domain of' and 'range of'; using format of DLs
13:53:39 <MikeS> ...more internal linking from properties to classes and vice versa
13:53:56 <MikeS> ...issue in Sec 3.1 regarding range of body property
13:55:04 <MikeS> SAZ: section entitled 'Status of this document' needs chnages; Shadi will do
13:55:38 <MikeS> ...what about SPARQL queries?
13:56:25 <MikeS> Note: I have an outstanding action to look at SPARQL and POWDR for how they handle conformance
13:57:49 <MikeS> SAZ: keep it open but lean toward Content in RDF?
13:58:53 <MikeS> JK: may not be possible to have range of cnt:content if one wnated to have multiple pieces of content
13:59:12 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20081126#Assertor
14:00:09 <MikeS> ...leave range unspecified and keep introductory paragraph
14:03:34 <MikeS> ....would a conforming Http in RDF-reading application be required to process cnt vocabulary?
14:04:14 <MikeS> SAZ: yes - should expect cnt-pocessing
14:05:41 <MikeS> CI: strange to suggest that http in RDF apps would also need to conform to Content in RDF vocabulary
14:06:28 <MikeS> agree with leaving it more open
14:06:54 <MikeS> RESOLUTION: leave body property open but encourage the use of cnt:content to represent body
14:07:20 <MikeS> SAZ: up to JK as to how to express this in the document
14:08:24 <MikeS> ...will resolve conformance issues in EARL 1.0 Schema document and then apply that resolution to other docs
14:10:02 <MikeS> +1
14:10:08 <carlosI> +1
14:11:08 <MikeS> JK: removed schema from document but on-line version needs to be synced
14:12:07 <shadi>  - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/http.rdfs>
14:12:07 <shadi>  - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/content.rdfs> 
14:13:09 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:13:09 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Content-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
14:13:13 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Content/WD-Content-in-RDF-20081216
14:13:15 <MikeS> Topic: Representing Content in RDF
14:14:22 <MikeS> SAZ: using xsd data types?
14:14:41 <MikeS> CI: makes sense
14:14:43 <MikeS> +1
14:15:12 <MikeS> JK: xsd data types already there
14:16:16 <MikeS> SAZ: remainder of group should review document
14:17:18 <MikeS> SAZ: comments about WG in general before winter break?
14:17:34 <MikeS> ...Pointers in RDF moving along
14:17:47 <MikeS> ...conformance questions need to be resolved for toher docs
14:18:36 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:18:37 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Pointers-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
14:19:25 <MikeS> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:19:25 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Next meeting" taken up [from shadi]
14:19:59 <MikeS> SAZ: Jan 7 or Jan 14?
14:20:05 <MikeS> JK: jan 7
14:20:09 <MikeS> +1 for Jan 7
14:20:21 <MikeS> CI: jan 7
14:20:45 <MikeS> Happy Holidays, everyone
14:21:03 <Zakim> -JohannesK
14:21:05 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:21:07 <Zakim> -Mike
14:27:12 <shadi> zakim, drop carlosi
14:27:12 <Zakim> Carlos_Iglesias is being disconnected
14:27:14 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
14:27:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.512.823.aaaa, Shadi, Mike, Carlos_Iglesias, JohannesK
14:27:21 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:27:21 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:27:21 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:27:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:27:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-er-minutes.html trackbot
14:27:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:27:23 <RRSAgent> I see no action items