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13:28:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:28:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 8783
13:28:37 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:28:38 <trackbot> Meeting: Test Samples Development Task Force Teleconference
13:28:38 <trackbot> Date: 16 December 2008
13:31:10 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:31:10 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:31:11 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
13:31:12 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:31:22 <Zakim> +Cooper
13:35:19 <Zakim> +Carlos_Iglesias
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13:37:14 <Zakim> +cvelasco
13:37:39 <shadi> chair: CarlosV
13:38:46 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2008Dec/0003.html
13:39:03 <shadi> agenda+ Open action items
13:39:15 <shadi> agenda+ Unreviewed test samples
13:40:37 <shadi> agenda+ Work Planning
13:40:48 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
13:40:48 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Work Planning" taken up [from shadi]
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13:44:26 <carlosI> SAZ: the review process works
13:44:39 <carlosI> SAZ: but it is hard without tools
13:44:51 <carlosI> SAZ: talked about the necessary tool during last F2F
13:45:31 <carlosI> SAZ: try to get tools ready by January
13:45:45 <carlosI> SAZ: hopes this help to increase participation
13:45:58 <carlosI> SAZ: as the learning curve will be lower
13:46:44 <carlosI> CV: after looking the requirements don't think could develope such a tool in a reasonable time
13:47:01 <carlosI> CV: thinks the best approach is try to get something and tune it
13:47:09 <carlosI> CV: something like Jira
13:48:03 <cvelasco> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/WebInterface/Mockups/design.html
13:49:36 <carlosI> SAZ: the difficult part would be the WG tool, not the public interface
13:49:56 <carlosI> CV: also the validation process
13:50:09 <carlosI> SAZ: don't think it is so complicated
13:50:17 <carlosI> SAZ: we already have the schematron
13:50:27 <carlosI> SAZ: could run it on the CVS commit
13:50:50 <carlosI> SAZ: think could manage with something simple
13:51:12 <carlosI> SAZ: if there is a tool with that funcionality could do that
13:52:57 <carlosI> CI: thinks may be better try to manage with what we already have than trying to figure out how to do the same with a new tool
13:55:47 <carlosI> MS: would prefer to use an existing tool than develope a new one
13:56:37 <carlosI> MS: concerns about the new development been more complicated than expected
13:58:41 <carlosI> SAZ: next step for WCAG 2 may be focusing on techniques
13:59:09 <carlosI> MC: not sure how to follow right now
13:59:42 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
13:59:46 <carlosI> MC: need to define the maintenance of understanding and techniques documents
14:00:13 <carlosI> MC: don't expect much more work on accessibility support within the group
14:01:53 <Tim> Tim has joined #tsdtf
14:02:42 <carlosI> MC: to some extent need more communication between the WG and the TF to get better understanding of the test samples potential usage
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14:03:58 <Zakim> +??P6
14:04:18 <Christophe> zakim, ?P6 is Christophe_Strobbe
14:04:18 <Zakim> sorry, Christophe, I do not recognize a party named '?P6'
14:04:24 <Christophe> zakim, P6 is Christophe_Strobbe
14:04:24 <Zakim> sorry, Christophe, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'
14:04:29 <Christophe> zakim, ??P6 is Christophe_Strobbe
14:04:29 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe; got it
14:10:34 <carlosI> SAZ: an important question would be time commitment 
14:11:14 <carlosI> CV: the first quarter would be very difficult
14:12:05 <carlosI> CV: preparation of the project would be very time consuming
14:13:31 <Tim> I don't have answer right now but will come up with answer by Jan 
14:14:28 <carlosI> SAZ: need a critical mass of time commitment
14:20:27 <carlosI> SAZ: net telecon
14:20:41 <carlosI> SAZ: two regrets Jan 6th one Jan 13th
14:20:50 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
14:20:52 <carlosI> SAZ: next telecon Jan 13th
14:20:54 <Zakim> -Cooper
14:20:56 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
14:21:00 <Zakim> -cvelasco
14:21:31 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:21:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias
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14:25:28 <Zakim> -Carlos_Iglesias
14:25:30 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:25:30 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
14:25:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Cooper, Carlos_Iglesias, cvelasco, Tim_Boland, Christophe_Strobbe
14:25:43 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:25:43 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:25:43 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:25:44 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:25:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-tsdtf-minutes.html trackbot
14:25:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:25:45 <RRSAgent> I see no action items