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15:56:18 <dom> RRSAgent, make log public
15:56:24 <dom> Zakim, this will be mwts
15:56:24 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, dom
15:56:39 <dom> Zakim, this will be ts
15:56:39 <Zakim> ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
15:57:56 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0008.html
15:58:02 <dom> Regrets: Carmelo
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15:59:51 <dom> Chair: Wilhelm
16:00:09 <dom> zakim, code?
16:00:09 <Zakim> the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
16:00:38 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
16:00:47 <Zakim> +??P48
16:01:03 <Zakim> + +47.23.69.aaaa
16:01:13 <Zakim> +dom
16:01:26 <dom> zakim, aaaa is Wilhelm
16:01:26 <Zakim> +Wilhelm; got it
16:01:32 <dom> zakim, ??P48 is Kai
16:01:32 <Zakim> +Kai; got it
16:02:00 <dom> Topic: Widgets testing
16:02:21 <dom> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING]
16:02:26 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0009.html Kai's report on WTF
16:02:42 <dom> Kai: this is somewhat stalled with the holidays coming up
16:03:12 <Zakim> +??P65
16:03:19 <dom> ... I'll probably be adding tests in my git repository
16:03:25 <dom> zakim, ??P65 is dmitri
16:03:29 <Zakim> +dmitri; got it
16:03:35 <dom> ... and then migrate them to the public cvs repository
16:03:44 <dom> Topic: Device independent testing guidelines
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16:04:07 <dom> ACTION: Dom to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
16:04:17 <dom> Dom: no progress - probably not any before mid-January
16:04:27 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to review the di guidelines [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action10]  [DONE]
16:04:37 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0013.html Wilhelm's comments
16:05:25 <dom> ACTION: Dmitiri to review the DI guidelines
16:06:26 <hendry> http://dabase.com/guidelines.html
16:06:34 <dom> Kai: sent comments to Carmelo some time ago
16:07:04 <dom> http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html
16:07:27 <dom> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html - last modification 4 weeks ago
16:08:42 <dom> Topic: Web Compatibility Test
16:08:58 <dom> ACTION: hendry to Contribute test to replace inputmode [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/09-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]
16:09:16 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0009.html Kai's suggestion for new test in WCTMB
16:09:29 <dom> Kai: goal is to test the memory limitations of mobile devices through JSon
16:09:50 <dom> ... We've found that some mobile devices are rather limited there - esp. for mashups
16:10:09 <dom> ... but nothing is specified in the ecmascript spec in terms of bottom line
16:10:20 <dom> ... so it is hard to come up with a limit
16:10:29 <dom> ... so I'm starting to have doubts about the merits of the test
16:10:55 <dom> ... This seems to be an interesting test to highlight the limitations of the mobile platform
16:12:13 <dom> dom: agree it would be delicate to include in WCTMB since no standard limit is defined
16:12:24 <dom> ... but we could re-use that test in another context
16:13:03 <dom> ... e.g. in mobile test harness - and advertise it through the blog?
16:13:31 <dom> ACTION: Kai to refactor the memory limitation test into something indicating the max memory 
16:13:45 <dom> Wilhelm: we could have a series of test: 8K / 12K /16K, etc
16:13:51 <dom> s/test/tests/
16:14:26 <dom> Kai: sounds like a good idea
16:14:42 <dom> ... In terms of getting a replacement for inputmode, maybe that's something we can ask in the blog
16:15:30 <dom> Dom: sounds good - although not sure this will deliver
16:15:44 <dom> ACTION: Kai to push forward with finding a replacement for the inputmode test
16:16:01 <dom> Topic: Blog
16:17:13 <dom> ACTION: Dom to send feedback on the blog post [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action11] [DROPPED]
16:17:28 <dom> ACTION: Dom to look into setting up a system to track scores of the WCTMB [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]
16:17:36 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Dec/0012.html Dom's system
16:18:16 <dom> ACTION: Dom to set up a page showing the results recorded on WCTMB
16:18:53 <dom> ACTION: Dom to set up a blog for MWTSWG [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]
16:19:05 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2008Dec/0002.html Blog set up
16:19:41 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to post an introductory message to the blog
16:20:57 <dom> ACTION: Kai to put his draft blog post on MWTS blog
16:21:07 <dom> Topic: Agreement on test suites with OMA
16:21:18 <dom> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING]
16:21:48 <dom> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING]
16:21:59 <dom> Topic: Next meeting
16:22:09 <dom> Next meeting on January 6
16:22:48 <Zakim> -Wilhelm
16:22:50 <Zakim> -dom
16:22:52 <Zakim> -Kai
16:22:52 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
16:22:53 <Zakim> Attendees were +47.23.69.aaaa, dom, Wilhelm, Kai, dmitri
16:23:09 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:23:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html dom
16:23:14 <dom> zakim, bye
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16:24:50 <dom> Meeting: Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconf
16:24:59 <dom> s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
16:25:01 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:25:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/16-mwts-minutes.html dom
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