20:59:14 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #wai-wcag
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20:59:23 <Ben> RRSAgent, make log world
20:59:28 <Ben> zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
20:59:28 <Zakim> ok, Ben; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 59 minutes ago
20:59:31 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
20:59:35 <Ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
20:59:38 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:59:44 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:59:44 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:59:44 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:59:58 <Loretta> Loretta has joined #wai-wcag
21:00:19 <Zakim> +??P1
21:00:33 <Zakim> +andrew
21:00:34 <rscano> zakim, +??P1 is Roberto_Scano
21:00:34 <Zakim> sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+??P1'
21:00:50 <rscano> zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Scano
21:00:50 <Zakim> +Roberto_Scano; got it
21:00:52 <Zakim> +??P3
21:00:54 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart
21:00:54 <Ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008OctDec/0052.html
21:00:58 <Ben> zakim, ??P3 is Ben
21:00:58 <Zakim> +Ben; got it
21:01:07 <rscano> zakim, i am Roberto_Scano
21:01:07 <Zakim> ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
21:01:12 <Zakim> +??P5
21:01:13 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
21:01:24 <Sofia> Zakim, Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
21:01:24 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
21:01:27 <rellero> zakim, +??P5 is Roberto_Ellero
21:01:27 <Zakim> sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '+??P5'
21:01:33 <rellero> zakim, +?P5 is Roberto_Ellero
21:01:33 <Zakim> sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '+?P5'
21:01:37 <rellero> zakim, ??P5 is Roberto_Ellero
21:01:37 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
21:01:39 <Ben> zakim, Ben is Ben_Caldwell
21:01:39 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
21:01:45 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
21:01:47 <Ben> zakim, Ben has Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:01:47 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
21:02:07 <Zakim> +??P8
21:02:09 <Zakim> -??P8
21:02:12 <Ben> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
21:02:22 <MichaelC> regrets+ Bengt_Farre
21:02:23 <Ben> agenda + Responses to AC Comments for 04 Dec 2008
21:02:42 <Ben> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
21:02:43 <Zakim> +??P8
21:03:03 <Andi> Andi has joined #wai-wcag
21:03:23 <rscano> zakim, ??P8 should be Marco_Bertoni
21:03:23 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P8 should be Marco_Bertoni', rscano
21:03:26 <mbertoni> zakim, +??P8 is Marco_Bertoni
21:03:26 <Zakim> sorry, mbertoni, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
21:03:36 <rscano> zakim, ??P8 is Marco_Bertoni
21:03:36 <Zakim> +Marco_Bertoni; got it
21:03:50 <rscano> zakim, mbertoni is Marco_Bertoni
21:03:50 <Zakim> sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named 'mbertoni'
21:04:13 <mbertoni> zakim, i am Marco_Bertoni
21:04:13 <Zakim> ok, mbertoni, I now associate you with Marco_Bertoni
21:04:20 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:04:26 <MichaelC> zakim, who's on the call?
21:04:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, andrew, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Marco_Bertoni, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:04:29 <Zakim> Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:04:29 <Zakim> Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
21:05:34 <Andi> scribe: Andi
21:06:04 <Makoto> Makoto has joined #wai-wcag
21:07:27 <Zakim> +??P10
21:07:35 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
21:07:35 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
21:07:43 <Makoto> zakim, [??P10] is Makoto_Ueki
21:07:43 <Zakim> sorry, Makoto, I do not recognize a party named '[??P10]'
21:07:54 <Makoto> zakim, ??P10 is Makoto_Ueki
21:07:54 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
21:08:33 <Ben> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20081105/
21:11:14 <Zakim> +??P11
21:12:16 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P11 is David_MacDonald
21:12:16 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald; got it
21:12:36 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:12:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, andrew, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Marco_Bertoni, Loretta_Guarino_Reid,
21:12:39 <Zakim> ... Makoto_Ueki, David_MacDonald
21:12:40 <Zakim> Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:12:40 <Zakim> Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
21:13:34 <Andi> zakim, take up agendum 2
21:13:34 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Responses to AC Comments for 04 Dec 2008" taken up [from Ben]
21:13:42 <Ben> zakim, close this item
21:13:42 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
21:13:43 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
21:13:44 <Zakim> 1. Announcements, Questions, and Updates [from Ben]
21:13:50 <Ben> zakim, take up agendum 1
21:13:50 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
21:13:57 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20081204misc/results
21:15:03 <Andi> topic: SC 1.4.3 Contrast Ratio
21:15:28 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:17:31 <Zakim> + +1.202.393.aaaa
21:18:55 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.202 is Tim_Boland
21:18:56 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland; got it
21:19:15 <Andi> resolution: change 1.4.3 to "The visual presentation of text and images of text has a contrast ratio of at least 5:1, except for the following: (Level AA) "
21:19:48 <greggvanderheiden> greggvanderheiden has joined #wai-wcag
21:22:31 <Andi> s/at least 4.5:1/at least 5:1/
21:25:46 <Andi> RESOLUTION: If the change of luminosity contrast ratio to 4.5:1 would affect the transition to Recommendation, the Working Group resolves to keep the luminosity contrast ratio at the current value of 5:1.
21:26:40 <Loretta> ack ka
21:26:42 <Zakim> -Drew_LaHart
21:29:36 <Andi> resolution:  change 1.4.3 to "The visual presentation of text and images of text has a contrast ratio of at least 4.5:1, except for the following: (Level AA)"
21:31:33 <Andi> topic: Issue 2683: Understanding 2.4.1: misleading point?
21:31:50 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2683 as proposed.
21:32:10 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2684: Nested headings
21:38:57 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2684 as amended.
21:39:21 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2685: validity
21:41:04 <Loretta> The working group looked at the topic of validity carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that validity was beyond the scope of accessibility and therefore outside the mandate the group’s mission because strict adherence to  specifications does not necessarily correlate to  accessibility. 
21:44:42 <greggvanderheiden> The working group looked at the topic of validity carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that validity went beyond the scope of accessibility and therefore outside the mandate the group’s mission because some aspects of validity do not affect accessibility.
21:45:41 <greggvanderheiden> The working group looked at the topic of validity carefully over an extended period of time and concluded that validity went beyond the scope of accessibility and therefore beyond the groups charter because some aspects of validity do not affect accessibility.
21:46:14 <rscano> ok
21:47:04 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept 2685 as amended.
21:47:24 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2686: Too difficult
21:47:50 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2686 as amended.
21:48:14 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2687: Style changer 
21:50:21 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2687 as proposed.
21:53:21 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2688: Language of SC 1.4.5 unclear 
21:53:50 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2688 as proposed.
21:54:15 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2689: Expand info required by 4.1.2 
22:00:13 <Zakim> -Roberto_Scano
22:00:55 <Loretta> When the Section 508 revisions become official, we would like to update the related resources in the WCAG 2.0 Understanding documents to reference related sections. Understanding 4.1.2 would reference Ssection 3-U. 
22:01:06 <rscano> rscano has left #wai-wcag
22:02:05 <Loretta> In future revisions, the Working Group hopes to include references to the TEITAC documents in the Understanding document.
22:03:18 <Zakim> -Marco_Bertoni
22:03:27 <mbertoni> good night
22:03:30 <mbertoni> mbertoni has left #wai-wcag
22:03:58 <Loretta> In future revisions, the Working Group plans  to include references to the TEITAC documents in the WCAG 2.0 Understanding documents.
22:04:59 <Loretta> ack br
22:05:02 <Loretta> ack k
22:05:04 <greggvanderheiden> ack k
22:06:02 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
22:06:15 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept 2689 as amended.
22:06:48 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2690: G10 should not be acceptable for SC 4.1.2
22:13:55 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2690 as amended.
22:14:47 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2691: Understanding Accessibility Support needs updating
22:15:07 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2691 as amended.
22:15:29 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2692: Statement of Partial Conformance
22:17:09 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
22:23:41 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2692 as proposed.
22:23:59 <Andi> TOPIC: Issue 2693: require multiple platform support
22:24:14 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Accept issue 2693 as proposed.
22:28:02 <Andi> RESOLUTION: Request to transition WCAG 2.0 to W3C Recommendation
22:31:39 <Loretta> ack k
22:43:07 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:43:41 <Zakim> -andrew
22:44:39 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:44:41 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
22:44:43 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
22:44:47 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
22:45:00 <Ben> Present: Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Andrew_, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Roberto_Ellero, Sofia_Celic, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Marco_Bertoni, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Makoto_Ueki, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Alex_Li, Tim_Boland, Katie_Haritos-Shea
22:48:17 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
22:48:17 <RRSAgent> I see no action items