IRC log of mw4d on 2008-12-01

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12:40:50 [steph]
Zakim, this will be mw4d
12:40:50 [Zakim]
ok, steph; I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 20 minutes
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Meeting: MW4D IG bi-monthly call
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0055.html
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Present: Stephane
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Chair:Ken
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zakim, code ?
12:56:08 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
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UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
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+steph
12:56:37 [steph]
Hello all
12:57:03 [steph]
zakim, who is here ?
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On the phone I see steph
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On IRC I see Raphael, kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
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+Raphael
12:58:52 [steph]
Present+Raphael
12:59:11 [Adesina]
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12:59:35 [Adesina]
Hello, I will not be able to join on voice today
12:59:44 [steph]
ok adesina
13:00:08 [Adesina]
ok
13:00:23 [kiwanja]
hi all
13:01:44 [Zakim]
+??P3
13:01:44 [Adesina]
Hi Ken
13:02:00 [steph]
zakim, ??p3 is Ken
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+Ken; got it
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Richard ?
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+ +1.509.432.aaaa
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+ +1.413.458.aabb
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-steph
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+Lauri
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zakim, zakim, code ?
13:04:44 [Zakim]
I don't understand your question, steph.
13:04:48 [steph]
zakim, code ?
13:04:48 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
13:05:23 [kiwanja]
zakim, who is here?
13:05:23 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Raphael, Ken, +1.509.432.aaaa, +1.413.458.aabb, Lauri
13:05:26 [Zakim]
On IRC I see bgillis, Adesina, rscullin, Raphael, kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
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+steph
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+ +2783302aacc
13:05:36 [Adesina]
I am here
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Present+Bill
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Present+Lauri
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Present+Richard
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zakim, aacc is Richard
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+Richard; got it
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zakim, aabb is Sean
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+Sean; got it
13:07:14 [steph]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0055.html
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Scribe:steph
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Topic: approval of minutes
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+1
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Ken: approved ?
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+1
13:09:08 [steph]
approved
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rrsagent, make minutes public
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', steph. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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rrsagent, make log public
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Topic: action items
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ken: Arun missing
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http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Stories
13:11:12 [Adesina]
I endorse the minute
13:11:30 [kiwanja]
Also worth taking a look at this as a voice/SMS service - http://www.mobichange.org
13:12:29 [Raphael]
looks interesting, thanks
13:13:31 [steph]
ken: ACTION: stephane to start mail discussion on the organization of
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the work
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stephane: done
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ken: Lauri to report on Nokia work in education cursus in
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Africa
13:14:12 [kiwanja]
q?
13:14:36 [steph]
Sean: nokia in south africa experience
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working with the ministry of education
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using mixit
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mxit
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:)
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and integrate content for tutors and students
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result in April
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stephane: material on the web ?
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sean: not yet, just approved
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no public announcement yet
13:16:32 [kiwanja]
q?
13:16:38 [steph]
q+
13:16:46 [Adesina]
Looking forward to the Nokia report
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Richard: how do you assess the program
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and what is the subject of the content
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sean: mathematics
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delivering locla SA curricula
13:17:32 [Adesina]
mobile for mathematics?
13:17:54 [Adesina]
ok
13:17:59 [kiwanja]
q?
13:18:01 [steph]
and there is an assessment methodology and they will assess the results
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q?
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ack steph
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Topic: workshop announcement
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http://www.w3.org/2008/10/MW4D_WS/
13:22:05 [kiwanja]
q?
13:23:42 [Adesina]
The workshop looks interesting, what date, venue?
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1-2 april 2009
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q/
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mozambique
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q?
13:25:28 [Raphael]
I'll do my best!
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to attend
13:25:32 [steph]
stephane: may be we could organzie a group f2f around this event (day before or day after)
13:25:37 [kiwanja]
would be good to see you there raphael!
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if critical mass available
13:25:41 [rscullin]
not right now....
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so please promote and disseminate the information
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ken: good ot get feedback from southern africa
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will do
13:26:38 [steph]
Topic: roadmap work
13:27:03 [Adesina]
Ken, any financial support to attend?
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will depend on the sponsors
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q?
13:27:18 [steph]
for now no sponsor
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q+
13:27:32 [Adesina]
kindly keep me in mind if any, I will like to attned
13:27:39 [steph]
ok submit a paper so
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and say so
13:29:11 [Raphael]
I'm willing to work on the Agriculture group
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anyone else?
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stephane: good to share work
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q?
13:29:58 [steph]
people should sing for some of the item
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s/sing/sign/
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ack steph
13:30:13 [Raphael]
I'll reply to Steph's email in order to share to group list (100+ people?)
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stephane: will put raphael on agriculture
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i will put myself for SMS/voice and web
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q?
13:31:43 [steph]
other volunteers welcome to sign for some of the items
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q?
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ACTION: member of the group to read the proposed shared work
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q?
13:33:08 [steph]
Topic: AoB
13:33:17 [Adesina]
I will introduce to soemone based in Ghana on Agriculuture
13:33:23 [steph]
Ken: who is going to M4D meeting in sweden in December ?
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no response
13:33:30 [Raphael]
q+
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q+
13:33:41 [Adesina]
I am already under Health
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Raphael: was in liberia 2 weeks ago, found that literacy is very important
13:34:17 [kiwanja]
q?
13:34:28 [Adesina]
Yes, I am going to M4D too, have a paper I am still working on
13:34:40 [kiwanja]
thanks adesina
13:35:34 [Adesina]
ok
13:35:47 [steph]
steph: 2 trends: using voice, and using iconic languages
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lots of litterature
13:36:03 [kiwanja]
is google voice search any good/worth looking at?
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ken: how does solve the problem ?
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thinking about the technology behind it
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raphael: usually passing the phone to someone else if available. otherwise they are stuck
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q+
13:38:24 [kiwanja]
q?
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q-
13:38:54 [Zakim]
- +1.509.432.aaaa
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q?
13:42:29 [Adesina]
no thread on the chat?
13:42:43 [steph]
Topic: coping with illiteracy
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raphael: a huge problem in my current project in liberia. any idea ?
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stephane: 3 options i'm aware of: voice apps, graphical iconic languages, text-to-speech
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raphael: working with a consultant will report back to the list
13:44:10 [Adesina]
yes, illiteracy is a problem and that is why contextually relevant iconic languages might be the way to go
13:44:15 [kiwanja]
q?
13:44:19 [steph]
q-
13:44:55 [Adesina]
voice in local language also relevant and alos converting speech to text
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stephane: other challenges ?
13:45:39 [Adesina]
Steph, put me under health
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raphael: there are other issues than just only information but e.g. the bad roads are also an issue
13:45:59 [steph]
adesina, thanks ok !
13:46:22 [Adesina]
generally infrastructure like road, telecom, electricity are bad
13:46:39 [kiwanja]
q?
13:47:12 [kiwanja]
adesina - any questions?
13:47:57 [steph]
raphael: discovered also that people are NOT using airtime as a currencyd
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despite what i expected
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steph: what is your objective with your pilot ? releasing a summary of findings ?
13:48:51 [steph]
raphael: why not
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steph: could be good to get direct feedback
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raphael: ok, put me in the next teleconference to introduce my project
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ken: good to hear back from conferences
13:50:53 [kiwanja]
q?
13:50:56 [steph]
ken: how does people keep track on all the ativites going on ?
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Rapahel: our group is good imho
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the wiki is very good
13:51:43 [Adesina]
no question
13:51:44 [steph]
we could do more, but a good start
13:52:23 [kiwanja]
q?
13:52:27 [steph]
ken: anything more before wrapping up ?
13:52:40 [steph]
ken: done !
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stephane: next call DEcember 15 !
13:52:58 [Raphael]
Adesina, do you have access to the wiki and the M-Health part?
13:53:05 [Adesina]
what plan do we have to take this forward?
13:53:07 [Raphael]
feed it!
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;)
13:53:18 [Adesina]
let me see
13:53:19 [Raphael]
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Stories
13:53:37 [steph]
adesina: how to move forward is described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0054.html
13:54:16 [steph]
the idea is that you look at the health apps/project ongoing and trying to identify some specificities or generalized findings
13:54:18 [Raphael]
thank you
13:54:18 [rscullin]
Thanks. This was great.
13:54:27 [Raphael]
we'll prepare for next time!
13:54:27 [Zakim]
-steph
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-Lauri
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-Raphael
13:54:35 [Zakim]
-Sean
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-Ken
13:54:49 [Zakim]
-Richard
13:54:50 [Zakim]
UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were steph, Raphael, Ken, +1.509.432.aaaa, +1.413.458.aabb, Lauri, +2783302aacc, Richard, Sean
13:54:57 [steph]
rrsagent, make minutes
13:54:57 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/01-mw4d-minutes.html steph
13:55:29 [Adesina]
ok