IRC log of egov on 2008-11-26

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-irc
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chair: kevin
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trackbot, start telcon
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be EGOV
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ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start now
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Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
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Date: 26 November 2008
14:00:52 [josema]
zakim, who's here?
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T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has not yet started, josema
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
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+rachel
14:01:39 [josema]
zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see rachel
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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+owen
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-owen
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+owen
14:03:26 [josema]
zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see rachel, owen
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:03:32 [josema]
agenda+ Appoint a scribe
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agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments
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agenda+ Updated Activity Plan and Milestones
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agenda+ Open actions
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+kevin
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agenda+ Review of evolution of use cases
14:04:31 [Rachel]
I can scribe - do you just want notes of the phone conversation recorded in IRC?
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agenda+ Next Meeting - proposed next call: 10 Dec
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agenda?
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zakim, who's here?
14:05:09 [Zakim]
On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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+Josema
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-Josema
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+Josema
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-Josema
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+Josema
14:08:01 [josema]
zakim, who's here?
14:08:01 [Zakim]
On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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-Josema
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+Josema
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-Josema
14:09:12 [Rachel]
John likely will not make the call today
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+Josema
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-Josema
14:12:09 [Rachel]
Chris Testa will not make the call today, traveling, but will have a status update next week
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+Josema
14:13:50 [Rachel]
I'm scribe today
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scribe: rachel
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agenda?
14:16:02 [Rachel]
discussing importance of user experience. As we build all these test cases around "back-end" topics, must also include guidance on how the user will benefit from, and interact with, their government online
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-Josema
14:16:55 [Rachel]
intent is to have each use case address front-end, as well as back-end.
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Kevin reports World Bank recently hosted a meeting, and one of the topics was e-gov
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14:20:45 [Rachel]
Many challenges exist to implementing good eGov, outside of just technical
14:20:45 [Owen]
With reference to the "front-end" (user interface), XUL and UIML may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL & http://www8.org/w8-papers/5b-hypertext-media/uiml/uiml.html
14:20:58 [Rachel]
zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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+Josema
14:22:50 [Rachel]
Kevin will be updating Activity Plan with current due dates & milestones
14:23:06 [Rachel]
zakim who's here?
14:23:16 [Rachel]
zakim, who's here?
14:23:16 [Zakim]
On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema
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On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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-Josema
14:24:44 [Owen]
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_User_Interface
14:26:16 [Rachel]
Kevins reports we'll have a straw man ready in early January, that the group can react to and comment on
14:28:05 [Zakim]
+ +34.98.439.aaaa
14:28:45 [Rachel]
Lots of renewed interest in the US by the incoming Administration, and opening up government, delivering services online
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+ +34.64.736.aabb
14:32:19 [OCR]
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zakim, who is there
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I don't understand 'who is there', OCR
14:33:18 [OCR]
zakim, who's here?
14:33:18 [Zakim]
On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb
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On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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zakim, aaaa is OCR
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+OCR; got it
14:33:48 [OCR]
zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, OCR, +34.64.736.aabb
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On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:35:35 [Rachel]
use cases are due as soon as you can finish them
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Jose has been reaching out to interested parties to get more input on use cases
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W3C SWEO - Symantic Web Education & Outreach - also working on use cases. Jose recommends we follow their model.
14:41:25 [Rachel]
Should look at use cases put together by other groups working on similar initiatives
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see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/ Semantic Web Education and Outreach (SWEO) Interest Group
14:47:48 [Rachel]
Kevin recently addressed Web Mavens group (WA DC-based), and will also speak at Web Managers Roundtable about eGov
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Regarding use cases - the US web community has lots of things in the works now around social media & web 2.0, but no "final" work products ready yet. Still, a use case on these efforts would be valuable, showing lessons learned. Jose mentioned other work being done by the UK and New Zealand around social media
15:11:48 [anne]
leave
15:11:50 [Rachel]
RSS Agent: draft minutes
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RSS Agent: draft minutes
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rss agent:draft minutes
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rrs agent, draft minutes
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RRS Agent: draft minutes
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rrsagent: draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel
15:13:53 [Rachel]
Rachel will include examples from around the world in the social media use case draft
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everyone, please try to get your use cases drafted no later than December 10, so we can discuss at the next call on December 10
15:18:31 [Rachel]
Owen and Kevin will not be at next call - Owen at XML conference, Kevin at Web Manager Roundtable
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-owen
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-kevin
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- +34.64.736.aabb
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-rachel
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-OCR
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T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
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Attendees were rachel, owen, kevin, Josema, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb, OCR
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rssagent: draft minutes
15:20:21 [Rachel]
rrsagent: draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel
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15:49:42 [anne]
quit
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html josema
16:25:09 [josema]
zakim, list attendees
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sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
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zakim, bye
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rrsagent, draft minutes -implicitContinuations
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minutes -implicitContinuations', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items