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14:00:29 <josema> chair: kevin
14:00:42 <josema> trackbot, start telcon
14:00:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:00:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
14:00:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start now
14:00:48 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
14:00:48 <trackbot> Date: 26 November 2008
14:00:52 <josema> zakim, who's here?
14:00:52 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has not yet started, josema
14:00:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:01:09 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started
14:01:10 <Zakim> +rachel
14:01:39 <josema> zakim, who's here?
14:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel
14:01:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:03:11 <Zakim> +owen
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14:03:26 <josema> zakim, who's here?
14:03:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen
14:03:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:03:32 <josema> agenda+ Appoint a scribe
14:03:47 <josema> agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments
14:03:59 <josema> agenda+ Updated Activity Plan and Milestones
14:04:12 <josema> agenda+ Open actions
14:04:18 <Zakim> +kevin
14:04:21 <josema> agenda+ Review of evolution of use cases
14:04:31 <Rachel> I can scribe - do you just want notes of the phone conversation recorded in IRC?
14:04:47 <josema> agenda+ Next Meeting - proposed next call: 10 Dec
14:04:49 <josema> agenda?
14:05:09 <josema> zakim, who's here?
14:05:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin
14:05:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:06:13 <Zakim> +Josema
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14:07:37 <Zakim> +Josema
14:08:01 <josema> zakim, who's here?
14:08:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema
14:08:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:08:15 <Zakim> -Josema
14:08:30 <Zakim> +Josema
14:08:52 <Zakim> -Josema
14:09:12 <Rachel> John likely will not make the call today
14:09:39 <Zakim> +Josema
14:10:08 <Zakim> -Josema
14:12:09 <Rachel> Chris Testa will not make the call today, traveling, but will have a status update next week
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14:13:50 <Rachel> I'm scribe today
14:13:55 <josema> scribe: rachel
14:14:30 <josema> agenda?
14:16:02 <Rachel> discussing importance of user experience.  As we build all these test cases around "back-end" topics, must also include guidance on how the user will benefit from, and interact with, their government online
14:16:10 <Zakim> -Josema
14:16:55 <Rachel> intent is to have each use case address front-end, as well as back-end.
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14:18:41 <Rachel> Kevin reports World Bank recently hosted a meeting, and one of the topics was e-gov
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14:20:45 <Rachel> Many challenges exist to implementing good eGov, outside of just technical
14:20:45 <Owen> With reference to the "front-end" (user interface), XUL and UIML may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL & http://www8.org/w8-papers/5b-hypertext-media/uiml/uiml.html 
14:20:58 <Rachel> zakim, who's here?
14:20:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin
14:20:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
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14:22:50 <Rachel> Kevin will be updating Activity Plan with current due dates & milestones
14:23:06 <Rachel> zakim who's here?
14:23:16 <Rachel> zakim, who's here?
14:23:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema
14:23:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:24:10 <Zakim> -Josema
14:24:44 <Owen> See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_User_Interface
14:26:16 <Rachel> Kevins reports we'll have a straw man ready in early January, that the group can react to and comment on
14:28:05 <Zakim> + +34.98.439.aaaa
14:28:45 <Rachel> Lots of renewed interest in the US by the incoming Administration, and opening up government, delivering services online
14:30:17 <Zakim> + +34.64.736.aabb
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14:32:42 <OCR> zakim, who is there
14:32:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is there', OCR
14:33:18 <OCR> zakim, who's here?
14:33:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb
14:33:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:33:36 <OCR> zakim, aaaa is OCR
14:33:36 <Zakim> +OCR; got it
14:33:48 <OCR> zakim, who's here?
14:33:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, OCR, +34.64.736.aabb
14:33:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot
14:35:35 <Rachel> use cases are due as soon as you can finish them
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14:38:04 <Rachel> Jose has been reaching out to interested parties to get more input on use cases
14:40:01 <Rachel> W3C SWEO - Symantic Web Education & Outreach - also working on use cases.  Jose recommends we follow their model.
14:41:25 <Rachel> Should look at use cases put together by other groups working on similar initiatives
14:43:57 <Rachel> see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/  Semantic Web Education and Outreach (SWEO) Interest Group
14:47:48 <Rachel> Kevin recently addressed Web Mavens group (WA DC-based), and will also speak at Web Managers Roundtable about eGov
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15:11:42 <Rachel> Regarding use cases - the US web community has lots of things in the works now around social media & web 2.0, but no "final" work products ready yet.  Still, a use case on these efforts would be valuable, showing lessons learned.  Jose mentioned other work being done by the UK and New Zealand around social media
15:11:48 <anne> leave
15:11:50 <Rachel> RSS Agent:  draft minutes
15:12:04 <Rachel> RSS Agent: draft minutes
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15:13:08 <Rachel> rrsagent: draft minutes
15:13:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel
15:13:53 <Rachel> Rachel will include examples from around the world in the social media use case draft
15:14:39 <Rachel> everyone, please try to get your use cases drafted no later than December 10, so we can discuss at the next call on December 10
15:18:31 <Rachel> Owen and Kevin will not be at next call - Owen at XML conference, Kevin at Web Manager Roundtable
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15:19:47 <Zakim> Attendees were rachel, owen, kevin, Josema, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb, OCR
15:20:11 <Rachel> rssagent: draft minutes
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15:20:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel
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16:24:58 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:24:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html josema
16:25:09 <josema> zakim, list attendees
16:25:09 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
16:25:15 <josema> zakim, bye
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16:31:20 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes -implicitContinuations
16:31:20 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minutes -implicitContinuations', josema.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:30:06 <josema> rrsagent, bye
17:30:07 <RRSAgent> I see no action items