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10:00:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
10:00:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM already started
10:00:15 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
10:00:15 <trackbot> Date: 19 November 2008
10:00:49 <erik> thx anyway Yves for starting things up
10:01:07 <Gui> Gui has joined #mediafrag
10:01:29 <erik> np
10:03:45 <jackjansen> Got coffee too. Searching for telephone.
10:03:59 <Zakim> +Kagiso
10:04:00 <Zakim> -Kagiso
10:04:00 <Zakim> +Kagiso
10:04:43 <Zakim> +jackjansen
10:05:16 <Gui> zakim, +27 is Gui
10:05:16 <Zakim> sorry, Gui, I do not recognize a party named '+27'
10:06:26 <Zakim> +Yves
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10:07:27 <erik> Silvia, will you be able to call in? or should we start?
10:07:49 <Zakim> +Thierry
10:08:04 <thierry> zakim, mute me
10:08:04 <Zakim> Thierry should now be muted
10:08:55 <erik> scribe Gui
10:08:56 <Gui> scribe: Gui
10:09:47 <Yves> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Nov/0074.html
10:09:48 <Gui> Accept previous minutes 
10:09:58 <Gui> Actions to be closed :
10:10:10 <erik> close ACTION-9
10:10:10 <trackbot> ACTION-9 Make a poll for suggestions for telecon hour: 10:00UTC or 9:30UTC closed
10:10:51 <jackjansen> Gui, do you know the teleconf cheatsheet? http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/wiki/CheatSheet
10:11:22 <Gui> I'm looking at it!
10:13:23 <Gui> About the 2nd F2F, booking later?
10:13:30 <Gui> close ACTION-12
10:13:30 <trackbot> ACTION-12 Chase for answers on the questionaire of the 2nd F2F meeting in Ghent closed
10:13:36 <Gui> close ACTION-11
10:13:36 <trackbot> ACTION-11 Reserve the phone conf at 10:00 UTC (see results questionaire) closed
10:14:00 <erik> close ACTION-12
10:14:00 <trackbot> ACTION-12 Chase for answers on the questionaire of the 2nd F2F meeting in Ghent closed
10:14:52 <Gui> Working Draft
10:16:38 <Gui> ACTION: Gui to add some additional scenarios under Use Cases
10:16:38 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Gui
10:18:18 <Gui> 3.2 About Merging the two pages
10:18:36 <Gui> on the wiki : Types of Media Fragment Addressing and HTTP Caching
10:18:37 <erik> Davy, good idea to merge your page with Guillaume's?
10:18:46 <Yves> +1 to merging those two pages
10:18:51 <davy> yes, +1
10:19:10 <Gui> ok
10:19:22 <Yves> note that I'll make modifications wrt ranges on it, so please tell me when I can do that to avoid interfering with the merging process 
10:19:40 <erik> responsability by Guillaume
10:19:40 <Gui> Gui to merge the two wiki pages
10:21:25 <Gui> About action-8. Yves still discussing it with expert. Once the merging is done, Yves will update the wiki page accordingly
10:21:51 <Gui> Yves to include the information before the next F2F
10:22:52 <Gui> Raphael still has to write down about the 2-ways handshake, skip for now.
10:23:18 <Gui> close ACTION-10
10:23:18 <trackbot> ACTION-10 Review the RTSP implementation document closed
10:23:43 <erik> remark of Jack ... RTSP doc us fine as is (for the moment)
10:24:32 <Gui> Did you send an example of how it is done in SMIL on the mailing-list?
10:24:42 <jackjansen> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/State_of_the_Art
10:25:35 <Gui> section on SMIL, would also like examples of how fragments are identified
10:28:33 <Gui> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Nov/0056.html
10:28:49 <Gui> at the end of the archived mail
10:29:32 <Gui> and reply by Silvia : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Nov/0059.html
10:30:20 <Gui> The part where it talks of what Fragment URI would look like when combined with clipBegin and clipEnd
10:31:24 <Gui> ACTION: Jack Examples of combining Media Fragment URI with SMIL clipBegin and clipEnd
10:31:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Examples of combining Media Fragment URI with SMIL clipBegin and clipEnd [on Jack Jansen - due 2008-11-26].
10:33:14 <Gui> Now looking at issues, any thing to discuss further or to suggest as issue?
10:34:50 <jackjansen> zakim, mute me
10:34:50 <Zakim> jackjansen should now be muted
10:35:33 <Gui> Ideas of what should be discussed at the F2F?
10:36:12 <Gui> Eric will start the agenda with Davy
10:36:54 <jackjansen> zakim, unmute me
10:36:54 <Zakim> jackjansen should no longer be muted
10:37:05 <Gui> nothing else to discuss?
10:37:20 <Gui> Jack
10:37:32 <Gui> Jack's fine, Gui's fine, see you next week!
10:37:35 <Zakim> -jackjansen
10:37:36 <Zakim> -Yves
10:37:39 <Zakim> -erik
10:37:40 <Zakim> -Kagiso
10:37:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
10:37:54 <Gui> RRSAgent, draft minutes
10:37:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-mediafrag-minutes.html Gui
10:39:38 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended
10:39:40 <Zakim> Attendees were erik, Kagiso, jackjansen, Yves, Thierry
10:39:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
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10:48:57 <nessy> ah bummer
10:49:22 <nessy> sorry guys - forgot the time over dinner and a video :-(
10:49:37 <Yves> a complete video, or only a fragment? :)
10:53:27 <nessy> lol
10:53:33 <nessy> a series of House
10:53:39 <nessy> always on at this time on Wednesdays
10:53:47 <nessy> I need to remember to set an alarm for wednesdays
10:53:51 <Yves> does it mean we have to change the telcon time? :)
10:53:52 <nessy> then I can watch it later
10:54:09 <nessy> hehe - no, I'll get myself organised :)
10:54:21 <nessy> have just read back over it
10:54:43 <nessy> anything I should think about?
10:55:27 <nessy> what are those pages we are merging?
10:57:09 <Yves> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008Nov/0084.html
10:58:04 <nessy> ah cool
10:58:20 <nessy> I would however remove the byte range part from that page and keep it on a separate page
10:58:42 <nessy> doesn't really have anything to do with the types of fragment addressing list
10:59:04 <nessy> and should go into http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/HTTP_implementation
11:03:17 <nessy> how's France? 
11:03:47 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
11:03:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gui to add some additional scenarios under Use Cases [1]
11:03:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-mediafrag-irc#T10-16-38
11:03:47 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jack Examples of combining Media Fragment URI with SMIL clipBegin and clipEnd [2]
11:03:47 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/19-mediafrag-irc#T10-31-24
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