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12:40:37 <steph> zakim, this will be mw4d
12:40:37 <Zakim> ok, steph; I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 20 minutes
12:44:28 <steph> Meeting: MW4D bi-monthly teleconference
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12:44:50 <steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0047.html
12:44:53 <steph> Hi Jeffs
12:45:14 <steph> :)
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12:57:10 <Zakim> UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
12:57:12 <Zakim> +jeffs
12:57:17 <steph> zakim, code ?
12:57:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
12:57:44 <Zakim> +steph
12:58:05 <steph> Present: Jeffs, Stephane
13:00:10 <Zakim> +Raphael
13:00:31 <steph> Present+Raphael
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13:04:35 <Zakim> +Lauri
13:05:07 <steph> Present+Lauri
13:05:12 <steph> PResent+Nicolas
13:05:31 <Zakim> + +91.11.41.29.aabb
13:05:41 <steph> zakim, aaaa is Nicolas
13:05:41 <Zakim> +Nicolas; got it
13:05:47 <steph> Zakim, aabb is Arun
13:05:47 <Zakim> +Arun; got it
13:06:07 <Raphael> ok
13:06:16 <Raphael> to scribe
13:06:40 <steph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0047.html
13:06:45 <steph> Scribe: Rapahel
13:07:06 <steph> Topic: minutes apprval
13:07:10 <jeffs> +1
13:07:23 <steph> agreed
13:07:26 <steph> Topic: Action
13:08:10 <Raphael> Feedback on mtg from Lauri not yet
13:08:16 <Raphael> available
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13:08:44 <Raphael> Steph keeps the action open regarding profile of participants
13:09:29 <Raphael> Steph: on scheduling mtgs
13:09:57 <Raphael> Topic one: strengthen the strategy to get more work done
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13:10:19 <steph> zakim, aacc is Renjish
13:10:19 <Zakim> +Renjish; got it
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13:10:40 <steph> Present+Renjish
13:10:53 <steph> Topic: Presentation Voikiosk by Arun Kumar
13:11:11 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/11/Voikiosk-17Nov2008.PDF
13:12:53 <Raphael> Arun: on the slide presentation
13:13:04 <Raphael> 15 to 20 presentation
13:14:06 <steph> s/20/20 minutes/
13:18:17 <jeffs> like the idea of "Information Literacy" rather than "Computer Literacy"
13:18:32 <steph> me too, very interesting concept
13:19:20 <jeffs> what level of local tech is needed to support a voicesite? voicegen software?
13:20:43 <Raphael> Would regional accents be a problem for voice recognition systems?
13:21:14 <Raphael> +1
13:21:34 <steph> steph question: how to update a homepage (author recognition)
13:22:14 <jeffs> jeffs question: what level of local tech is needed to support a voicesite? same question for voicegen software?
13:23:00 <Raphael> My phone in is weak for voice transmission right now
13:23:21 <steph> zakim, who is making noise ?
13:23:33 <Zakim> steph, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Nicolas (4%)
13:24:19 <NChevrollier> any better?
13:24:27 <steph> zakim, who is making noise ?
13:24:46 <Zakim> steph, listening for 12 seconds I could not identify any sounds
13:24:56 <steph> sounds good
13:25:17 <Raphael> A voice site would be very useful for our current project in Liberia
13:27:14 <steph> question: what is required to run the service, is the software free/open source ?
13:27:35 <Raphael> you did tell me in Sao Paulo.. :)
13:28:01 <jeffs> question 2 from jeffs: what is accuracy/error rate for this in field tests?
13:29:16 <Renjish> question: is there a translation facility to access the same site as a normal web page?
13:29:18 <NChevrollier> question: from first pilots, what types of services are the most promissing? who is the most likely to use this system?
13:31:59 <Raphael> The system would be usefull for the http://www.questionbox.org/
13:34:48 <Raphael> Arun: opening to questions
13:35:16 <Raphael> Steph: open the floor for questions which were collected during presentation
13:35:31 <Lauri> q+
13:35:45 <steph> q+ Renjish
13:35:50 <steph> q+rapahel
13:35:55 <steph> q+steph
13:36:00 <jeffs> jeffs question: what level of local tech is needed to support a voicesite? same question for voicegen software?
13:36:43 <Raphael> Jeff: What technology is required?
13:37:06 <jeffs> the central server site... what level of local tech needed to support that?
13:37:24 <Raphael> Raphael: if anyone can help me catching what Arun says, thank you
13:37:37 <jeffs> what is cost of voice server s/w & h/w as vs normal website?
13:38:00 <steph> good question, depends on the technology
13:38:24 <jeffs> question 2 from jeffs: what is accuracy/error rate for this in field tests?
13:38:31 <Arun> In terms of h/w
13:38:38 <Arun> we use genesys voice browser
13:38:42 <Arun> tomact app server
13:38:50 <Raphael> Thank you
13:38:52 <Arun> IBM WVS Speech server
13:39:02 <jeffs> so a fair bit more tech needed locally & tech support skills
13:39:40 <Raphael> http://www.questionbox.org/
13:39:47 <steph> zakim ack raphael
13:39:51 <steph> zakim, ack raphael
13:39:51 <Zakim> I see Lauri, Renjish, rapahel, steph on the speaker queue
13:40:01 <steph> zakim, ack rapahel
13:40:01 <Zakim> I see Lauri, Renjish, steph on the speaker queue
13:40:07 <NChevrollier> q+
13:40:09 <Raphael> q-
13:40:27 <steph> ack renjish
13:40:46 <jeffs> q+
13:40:47 <Raphael> Arun: inputs and outputs are taken by voice
13:40:52 <steph> renjish: translation, multi channel access
13:40:59 <steph> to normal web access
13:41:10 <steph> Arun: we are trying to work on it
13:41:55 <Raphael> Arun: support to people wanting to create their own applications
13:42:05 <Raphael> tools for these people
13:43:01 <Raphael> Arun: generic voicesite can be given and then later tailored to specific needs
13:43:01 <steph> arun: there are templates
13:44:17 <steph> zakim, ack lauri
13:44:17 <Zakim> I see steph, NChevrollier, jeffs on the speaker queue
13:44:48 <Raphael> Steph: voice browser includes speech recognition engine?
13:44:52 <Raphael> Arun: yes
13:45:25 <Raphael> Steph: any test with simpler voice browsers without voice recogn.?
13:46:09 <Renjish> This is why I feel that speech processing may not be matured enough to handle all kinds of nuances
13:46:12 <jeffs> zakim, who is on the queue?
13:46:12 <Zakim> I see steph, NChevrollier, jeffs on the speaker queue
13:46:14 <Raphael> Raphael: missing what Aruns answers...
13:46:19 <Raphael> sorry
13:47:10 <Renjish> :)
13:47:12 <Raphael> Steph: is the system completely integrated? is it modular?
13:47:35 <Raphael> Arun: not in release stage yet
13:47:41 <Raphael> working on it
13:47:44 <steph> q?
13:47:52 <steph> zakim, ack steph
13:47:52 <Zakim> I see NChevrollier, jeffs on the speaker queue
13:48:12 <Raphael> Nicolas: who is using the system, in the pilot(s)?
13:48:33 <Raphael> Arun: being run by farmers
13:48:37 <Raphael> used, sorrx
13:48:47 <Raphael> run by a foundation?
13:49:11 <jeffs> q?
13:49:16 <jeffs> question 2 from jeffs: what is accuracy/error rate for this in field tests?
13:49:22 <steph> ack NChevrollier
13:49:26 <steph> ack jeffs
13:49:50 <Raphael> Arun: no real study on it yet
13:50:08 <Raphael> most of the usage is yes/no answers
13:51:26 <Raphael> Jeff: You said it is preferable to SMS. SMS is preferred for the moment, do you have more arguments for voice? 
13:51:45 <Renjish> literacy can be an issue in SMS in my opinion
13:52:00 <jeffs> so discomfort is about literacy issue, not technology?
13:52:00 <steph> ubiquitously available, literacy
13:52:09 <steph> ability to get a free number
13:52:51 <Raphael> Steph: voice is as ubiquitous as SMS, or more
13:52:59 <Raphael> on existing phones
13:53:10 <Raphael> especially on fixed phones
13:53:13 <jeffs> thinking about PRC experience with emergence of SMS-only accounts, not happening in India?
13:53:39 <Renjish> we can do reverse billing for pull SMS
13:54:27 <Lauri> q+
13:54:48 <Raphael> Missed Arun points again. Anyone can sum up?
13:54:56 <Raphael> thanks
13:55:11 <Renjish> q+
13:55:23 <steph> ack Lauri
13:55:47 <Raphael> yes
13:56:08 <Raphael> thanks Arun
13:56:21 <Arun> We intend to expand since the foundation is very excited about this.
13:56:45 <Arun> They want to expand not only in terms of villages but also services.
13:56:50 <steph> renjish:scalability issues ?
13:56:53 <Raphael> Renjish: Will it be plug and play or more complex
13:57:21 <steph> Arun: dialect issues will be managed
13:58:31 <steph> zakim, close the queue
13:58:31 <Zakim> ok, steph, the speaker queue is closed
13:59:11 <jeffs> what action do we wish to take on this report?
13:59:37 <steph> i see that in the voice apps section if should appears in the lists of tools/solution
13:59:52 <steph> s/if/it/
14:00:19 <Raphael> I will check interest for such a solution in Monrovia in three days.
14:00:27 <Lauri> We should add this Voice-WEB-technology as one option to our list of "working solutions" to offer services.
14:00:44 <Arun> We have restricted the amount of voice input that needs to be recognized
14:01:25 <Raphael> Raphaël: I can engage to give feedback to the group, during our next meeting.
14:01:49 <steph> ACTION: Arun to make a summary of voikiosk
14:02:18 <Raphael> Steph: next call: Dec. 1
14:02:23 <steph> ACTION: stephane to start mail discussion on the organization of the work
14:02:45 <steph> http://www.worldbank.org/edevelopment/live 
14:02:53 <steph> Enabling Mobile Transformation in Africa – the discussion will focus on the Next-Generation of Mobile Services for Government, Health and the Financial Sector. 
14:03:06 <Raphael> Seph: session organized by the World Bank tomorrow
14:03:23 <Raphael> Thank you
14:03:27 <Renjish> Thanks
14:03:29 <Renjish> bye
14:03:31 <Zakim> -Lauri
14:03:32 <Zakim> -Nicolas
14:03:33 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
14:03:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-mw4d-minutes.html steph
14:03:33 <Arun> Thanks
14:03:36 <Zakim> -steph
14:03:37 <Zakim> -Raphael
14:03:40 <NChevrollier> tx
14:03:43 <Zakim> -Arun
14:03:43 <steph> Thanks arun for the presentation
14:03:46 <Zakim> -jeffs
14:03:54 <steph> yes ?
14:03:54 <Zakim> -Renjish
14:03:55 <Zakim> UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
14:03:57 <Zakim> Attendees were jeffs, steph, Raphael, +31.62.247.aaaa, Lauri, +91.11.41.29.aabb, Nicolas, Arun, +1.312.799.aacc, Renjish
14:04:06 <Raphael> Thanks to all for completing my scribe work
14:04:09 <Raphael> ...
14:04:12 <Lauri> exit
14:04:23 <steph> Jeffs ?
14:04:42 <jeffs> still here
14:05:06 <jeffs> just wanted to urge that interesting reports like this lead to actions the group can take
14:05:20 <jeffs> concerned that as info piles up on site things will get "lost"
14:05:50 <steph> yes i agree
14:05:53 <jeffs> IMHO: the more we take reports and then find actions to followup, the more we will engage the participants
14:06:39 <steph> yes exactly i will try to summarize the few steps we could have to organze a bit better the roadmap
14:06:50 <steph> and try to identify some area for further works
14:06:51 <jeffs> want to engage participants, move beyond passive listening to reports while reading slides
14:07:14 <jeffs> not trying to be a pain in the butt, just want to focus us on things ppl can actually *do* for the gorup
14:07:18 <steph> i believe that having a presentation and live discussions seems an interesting model
14:07:31 <steph> like today
14:07:42 <steph> i'm welcoming all suggestions
14:07:52 <jeffs> yes, but think they need to lead to actions somehow
14:07:58 <steph> this is helpful
14:08:23 <steph> except having a summary, what kind of actions would you liked to see ?
14:08:26 <jeffs> okay, not a criticism... just a process observation... want ppl to see this group as something they are enthusiastic about doing things for
14:08:34 <steph> +1
14:09:03 <jeffs> if one presents a report, one might also say "what I think we (as a group) should now do with this info"
14:09:28 <steph> right
14:09:30 <jeffs> that sort of action
14:09:58 <steph> this report for me leads to the consideration of a voice section in the report
14:10:06 <jeffs> okay, just my process comment...
14:10:11 <jeffs> so in this example)
14:10:11 <steph> ok
14:10:32 <jeffs> okay... I must go too
14:13:44 <steph> rrsagent, excuse us
14:13:52 <steph> rrsagent, make log public
14:13:54 <steph> rrsagent, excuse us
14:13:54 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-mw4d-actions.rdf :
14:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arun to make a summary of voikiosk [1]
14:13:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-mw4d-irc#T14-01-49
14:13:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: stephane to start mail discussion on the organization of the work [2]
14:13:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-mw4d-irc#T14-02-23