IRC log of au on 2008-11-17

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20:57:01 [jeanne]
meeting: WAI_AUWG
20:57:12 [jeanne]
zakim, code?
20:57:12 [Zakim]
the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne
20:57:39 [Zakim]
WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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+jeanne
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+Greg_Pisocky
21:02:33 [jeanne]
regrets: jan, tim
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+Sueann
21:06:14 [Greg]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081025/WD-ATAG20-20081025
21:06:41 [jeanne]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081028
21:06:59 [jeanne]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081028/
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081028/#principle-promote-integrate
21:07:57 [jeanne]
present: Greg, Jeanne, Sueann
21:09:46 [Zakim]
+??P5
21:10:11 [jeanne]
zakim, ??p5 is really Jutta
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+Jutta; got it
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-Jutta
21:16:11 [jeanne]
action: JS to remove the note for Principle B.3. Discuss whether to keep the concepts in another location.
21:16:11 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-45 - Remove the note for Principle B.3. Discuss whether to keep the concepts in another location. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24].
21:19:36 [jeanne]
Authors are most likely to use the first and easiest authoring action they encounter, therefore the first and easiest action should produce the most accessible result.
21:20:50 [jeanne]
action: JS to put the proposed wording for B.3.1 rationale in next week's survey
21:20:50 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-46 - Put the proposed wording for B.3.1 rationale in next week's survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24].
21:26:42 [jeanne]
B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence
21:26:42 [jeanne]
If authors are provided with options, then accessible actions are at least as prominent as other actions.
21:28:10 [jeanne]
B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options to achieve the same outcome, then options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other actions.
21:28:54 [jeanne]
B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options to achieve the same outcome, then those options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other actions.
21:30:35 [Zakim]
+??P2
21:41:33 [jeanne]
B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other actions.
21:42:13 [jeanne]
B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other options.
21:43:38 [jeanne]
GP: prominence definition is missing the ease of navigation to the options - burying levels deep in Properties dialog, for example.
21:44:48 [jeanne]
We should include an example of an accessible vs. inaccessible template in 3.1.1
21:45:21 [jeanne]
s/We should include /JT: We should include
21:46:09 [jeanne]
action: JS to include new wording for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 for this week's survey
21:46:09 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-47 - Include new wording for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 for this week's survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24].
21:46:25 [Greg]
Action: GP to write example for 3.1.1.1
21:46:25 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-48 - Write example for 3.1.1.1 [on Greg Pisocky - due 2008-11-24].
21:47:36 [jeanne]
action: JS to draft an additional bullet for definition of Prominence to include ease of navigation
21:47:36 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-49 - Draft an additional bullet for definition of Prominence to include ease of navigation [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24].
21:48:07 [jeanne]
B.3.1.2 Accessible Options have More Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are given greater prominence than other options.
21:48:26 [jeanne]
B.3.1.2 Accessible Options have Greater Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are given greater prominence than other options.
21:49:18 [jeanne]
action: JS to add new wording of B.3.1.2 to next week's survey
21:49:18 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-50 - Add new wording of B.3.1.2 to next week's survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24].
21:53:03 [jeanne]
B.3.2 Integrate the accessible authoring practices into the workflow.
21:55:19 [Greg]
B.3.2.1 Sequencing features: The application has to present all of the accessible options prior to completing the action
21:55:48 [jeanne]
action: JT to draft a proposal to reword B.3.2.1 and 3.2.2
21:55:48 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-51 - Draft a proposal to reword B.3.2.1 and 3.2.2 [on Jutta Treviranus - due 2008-11-24].
21:56:26 [Greg]
B.3.2.2 Sequence instuctions, the instructions for a given task must include all of the accessibility inclusion details prior to completing the sequence of instructions
21:57:21 [jeanne]
next meeting on Nov 24
21:57:22 [Zakim]
-Sueann
21:57:22 [Greg]
Next meeting, Monday November 24, 2008
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-??P2
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-jeanne
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-Greg_Pisocky
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were jeanne, Greg_Pisocky, Sueann, Jutta
21:57:36 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make logs public
21:57:41 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
21:57:41 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne
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present+ Jutta
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne
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scribeoptions: -final
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne
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chair: Jutta
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chair: Jutta, Jeanne
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne
22:05:41 [jeanne]
rrsagent, bye
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I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: JS to remove the note for Principle B.3. Discuss whether to keep the concepts in another location. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-16-11
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ACTION: JS to put the proposed wording for B.3.1 rationale in next week's survey [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-20-50
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ACTION: JS to include new wording for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 for this week's survey [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-46-09
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ACTION: GP to write example for 3.1.1.1 [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-46-25
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ACTION: JS to draft an additional bullet for definition of Prominence to include ease of navigation [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-47-36
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ACTION: JS to add new wording of B.3.1.2 to next week's survey [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-49-18
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ACTION: JT to draft a proposal to reword B.3.2.1 and 3.2.2 [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-55-48
22:05:47 [jeanne]
zakim, bye
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