IRC log of tagmem on 2008-11-13
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- zakim, this will be TAG
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- ok, ht; I see TAG_Weekly()1:00PM scheduled to start in 48 minutes
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- Meeting: TAG telcon 2008-11-13
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- Chair: Stuart Williams
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- Scribe: Henry S. Thompson
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- Scribenick: ht
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- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/11/13-agenda.html
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- Stuart has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/11/13-agenda
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- zakim, this will be tag
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- ok, Stuart; I see TAG_Weekly()1:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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- TAG_Weekly()1:00PM has now started
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- +??P3
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- zakim, ?? is me
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- +Stuart; got it
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- +Norm
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- -Stuart
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- +Stuart
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- +Jonathan_Rees
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- As noted in my regrets, I have some conflicts with today's call, but I'll try to keep an occasional eye out for IRC, and dial in if something comes up for which I am needed. Thank you.
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- +Danc
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- zakim, who is here?
- 18:01:52 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Stuart, Norm, Jonathan_Rees, Danc (muted)
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- On IRC I see noah, timbl, Stuart, jar, RRSAgent, Zakim, DanC_lap, ht, DanC, Norm, trackbot
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- +Raman
- 18:02:19 [DanC]
- noah, it's a bummer I can't seem to chat with you and ht at the same time about the dec ftf
- 18:02:29 [ht]
- zakim, please call ht-781
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- ok, ht; the call is being made
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- +Ht
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- Topic: Review of Agenda
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- +1 approve http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/10/16-minutes
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- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/11/13-agenda.html
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- SW: Other topics?
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- DC: Assume that ?? stuff would come up some time
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- SW: Issue 61? We will add this
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- s/??/package URIs/
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- Topic: Previous minutes
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- +1 approve http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/11/06-minutes
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- SW: Minutes from 16 October: http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-tagmem-minutes
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- ... and 6 Nov. f2f: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/11/06-minutes
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- RESOLVED: Approved as circulated
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- Topic: Next meetings
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- (noah, you're ok to scribe 20 Nov?)
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- Meet next on 20 November, scribe duty to Noah, whom failing DanC
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- Meeting of 27 November is cancelled
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- Topic: Responding to "Content Transformation Guidelines" LC Review request
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- NW: I've reviewed this, and as far as I understand it, I think they are using proxies in the way they are meant to be used
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- +dorchard
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- SW: What about relation to Generic Resources?
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- NW: Didn't see that explicitly, but any transformation gives a new representation
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- DC: Are there multiple URIs?
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- NW: I think not
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- DC: TV, any thoughts on that?
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- TVR: Not at the moment
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- SW: Anything we need to push on?
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- ... Last Call has actually expired
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- q+ to ask norm to tell me the typical use case/story
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- ack danc
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- DanC, you wanted to ask norm to tell me the typical use case/story
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- NW: I see no need to do anything other than say "Fine"
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- DC: Can you tell me a typical use case story?
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- NW: There are proxies set up so that e.g. a rich web site goes through the proxy and is transformed to something viewable on your mobile -- I think sidekick exploits this
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- DC: Any good recommendations
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- NW: Well, yes, don't change request headers was one bit
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- DC: Ah, perhaps the HTTP working party should look at this
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- NW: Good idea
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- q?
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- SW: I will send a courtesy message saying we have nothing to say. . .
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- Topic: Issue namespaceDocument-8 (ISSUE-8)
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- DC: HST has the ball
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- HST: I foresee progress in the new year
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- HST: So we could close the issue w/o completing the action (yet)
- 18:14:07 [DanC]
- ACTION-23 due 2008-02-01
- 18:14:07 [trackbot]
- ACTION-23 track progress of #int bug 1974 in the XML Schema namespace document in the XML Schema WG due date now 2008-02-01
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- DC: The two are now linked, via the Issue being in state Pending Review
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- Topic: Dec F2F - Call for Agenda Items
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- SW: Some items already suggested: Self-describing Web, Uniform Access to Metadata, ???
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- ... Wrt UAM, JR has an action to produce some words, but not due until next year
- 18:16:06 [noah]
- I remain somewhat optimistic of having a new Self-Describing Web draft. Bad news:">news: unlikely to be as far ahead of F2F as I would like; Good news: I would expect changes to be well-isolated and easy to review, given thorough discussion we had in Bristol.
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- JR: I will try to get something before us -- at least some slides
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- SW: DO, what about Versioning?
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- DO: I hope to get to it next week or the week after
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- JR: I believe I'm waiting for some input from DO
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- DO: I believe I'm waiting for JR
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- SW: Sounds like you should talk
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- action-181?
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- ACTION-181 -- Jonathan Rees to update versioning formalism to align with terminology in versioning compatibility strategies -- due 2008-10-16 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/181
- 18:17:28 [DanC]
- action-182?
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- ACTION-182 -- David Orchard to provide example for jar to work into the formalism -- due 2008-10-23 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/182
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- SW: JR, DO will talk offline
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- action-183?
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- ACTION-183 -- David Orchard to incorporate formalism into versioning compatibility strategies -- due 2008-10-23 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/183
- 18:18:07 [DanC]
- (indeed, the tracker state looks like... or is consistent with... deadlock)
- 18:18:28 [ht]
- SW: I have suggested giving each member a slot to motivate a topic, one they care about, either new, ongoing or forgotten
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- s/???/Versioning/
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- SW: HST, URNsAndRegistries?
- 18:20:01 [DanC]
- q+
- 18:20:05 [dorchard]
- I'm muted on my cell as well.
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- HST: Yes, I will have new prose in time for f2f
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- ack danc
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- on tagSoup: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/markup-spec/
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- DC: Mike Smith is working on a language spec. document for HTML 5
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- ... ref. TagSoupIntegration
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- DC: New W3C travel policy would mean I might get this trip and no others until TPAC
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- SW: So you are asking if we should meet?
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- DC: Yes
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- HST: I had assumed we would meet, planning to buy tickets soon
- 18:23:37 [dorchard]
- dec 1st is end of period
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- q+ to turn it around
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- ack ht
- 18:25:23 [Zakim]
- ht, you wanted to turn it around
- 18:27:18 [Stuart]
- q?
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- SW: NW and TVR will not be there, DO uncertain. NW and DO will join by 'phone
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- HST: I believe we will have enough people to do useful work
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- SW: We will meet, HST can buy tickets
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- SW: I would request more responses when I ask for agenda input
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- Topic: Review of action items
- 18:33:12 [Stuart]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/agenda
- 18:33:14 [noah]
- I will be at the December meeting (which if course is convenient for me).
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- SW: Let's look at the list of open actions, by issue: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/agenda
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- SW: Is ACTION-24 a worthwhile thing for Tim to pursue
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- DC: Well, TBL does say when asked that we should keep this open
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- ... I proposed to close on the basis of the XQuery spec.
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- ... and there's the HTML5 spec's new input on this
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- SW: So the topic title asks a question
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- DC: That's overtaken for sure: W3C specs _do_ support IRIs
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- ... What's at the heart of WebArch, IRIs or URIs -- answer 'yes'
- 18:37:13 [DanC]
- ACTION-188?
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- ACTION-188 -- Dan Connolly to investigate the URL/IRI/Larry Masinter possible resolution of the URL/HTML5 issue. -- due 2008-10-31 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/188
- 18:37:23 [ht]
- SW: Anyone want to work on this?
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- DC: Even if not, OK to have the issue there as a marker
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- SW: ISSUE-30 / ACTION-176 -- NM, DO, any progress?
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- (noah, are you OK to keep ACTION-176 open without Dave?)
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- action-176?
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- ACTION-176 -- Noah Mendelsohn to work with Dave to draft comments on exi w.r.t. evaluation and efficiency -- due 2008-09-30 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/176
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- DO: I think NM has made some progress, I request to be released from this, too much load elsewhere
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- SW: ISSUE-34 / ACTION-113
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- HST: Yes, it will happen someday
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- SW: ISSUE-35 / ACTION-130 XHTML/GRDDL
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- DC: Namespace doc't has been updated
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- SW: If you think it can be closed, please do so, leave a pointer to where the action is addressed
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- DC: OK
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- ... What about the issue?
- 18:40:30 [DanC]
- action-130: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml rev 2008/10/14 22:08:29
- 18:40:31 [trackbot]
- ACTION-130 Consult with Dan and Ralph about the gap between the XHTML namespace and the GRDDL transformation for RDFa notes added
- 18:40:46 [ht]
- SW: XHTML + RDF has done it, right?
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- s/RDFa/RDF/
- 18:41:18 [DanC]
- close action-130
- 18:41:18 [trackbot]
- ACTION-130 Consult with Dan and Ralph about the gap between the XHTML namespace and the GRDDL transformation for RDFa closed
- 18:41:41 [ht]
- s/RDF/RDFa
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- s/RDF/RDFa
- 18:42:00 [ht]
- [note to self: fix RDFa]
- 18:42:05 [Stuart]
- q?
- 18:42:18 [ht]
- HST: As long as the issue is XHTML, we're good
- 18:42:29 [ht]
- TVR: RFDa works fine with HTML
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- HST: I dispute the 'fine'
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- SW: and I wonder about the 'works'
- 18:43:01 [ht]
- [TagSoup digression]
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- SW: Propose to close ISSUE-35
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- TVR: By pointing to RDFa
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- DC: And GRDDL
- 18:43:43 [DanC]
- (indeed, -1 on the empty proposal to close; we need a technical decision.)
- 18:44:27 [ht]
- RESOLUTION: Close ISSUE-35 on the basis the RDFa and GRDDL provide the desired solution
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- HST: We need an action
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- DC: I will take it
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- s/action/action to explain the resolution to the public/
- 18:45:37 [ht]
- trackbot, status?
- 18:45:49 [DanC]
- ACTION: Dan announce decision on rdf-in-html-35 and invite feedback
- 18:45:49 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-191 - Announce decision on rdf-in-html-35 and invite feedback [on Dan Connolly - due 2008-11-20].
- 18:45:50 [noah]
- Am I right that we instructed me to include in next draft of Self-describing Web a story on how you could follow your nose from HTML media types to RDFa?
- 18:45:54 [ht]
- ACTION: Dan to close ISSUE-35 with a public explanation
- 18:45:54 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-192 - Close ISSUE-35 with a public explanation [on Dan Connolly - due 2008-11-20].
- 18:46:14 [noah]
- zakim, who is here?
- 18:46:15 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Stuart, Norm, Jonathan_Rees, Danc, Raman, Ht, dorchard
- 18:46:17 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see raman, dorchard, noah, timbl, Stuart, jar, RRSAgent, Zakim, ht, DanC, Norm, trackbot
- 18:46:24 [ht]
- ISSUE-41 / outstanding actions
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- SW: Assuming there will be progress by the F2F
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- JR: Yes
- 18:46:42 [DanC]
- close action-192
- 18:46:42 [trackbot]
- ACTION-192 Close ISSUE-35 with a public explanation closed
- 18:46:47 [ht]
- s/ISSUE-41/SW: ISSUE-41/
- 18:47:02 [ht]
- SW: ISSUE-50 / ACTION-33
- 18:47:07 [DanC]
- action-192: dup of 191
- 18:47:07 [trackbot]
- ACTION-192 Close ISSUE-35 with a public explanation notes added
- 18:47:42 [ht]
- trackbot, close ACTION-189
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- ACTION-189 S. Send public comment to www-tag about the XRI proposal and the establishment of base URI. closed
- 18:48:00 [ht]
- HST: Others are indeed open
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- SW: ISSUE-52 / ACTION-150
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- SW: Finding published
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- ... and announced
- 18:49:01 [DanC]
- action-150: done. see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Oct/0091.html
- 18:49:01 [trackbot]
- ACTION-150 Finish refs etc on passwords in the clear finding [inc post Sept 2008 F2F updates] notes added
- 18:49:20 [DanC]
- issue-52: finding: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/passwordsInTheClear-52-20081008.html
- 18:49:20 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-52 Sending passwords in the clear notes added
- 18:50:06 [ht]
- trackbot, close ACTION-150
- 18:50:06 [trackbot]
- ACTION-150 Finish refs etc on passwords in the clear finding [inc post Sept 2008 F2F updates] closed
- 18:50:27 [ht]
- DC: Did we hear back from anyone? Is there anyone we should be waiting on?
- 18:50:36 [ht]
- SW: We could ask Ed Rice?
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- DO: I will do so
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- DC: Do we have any recent input from Security Context
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- s/Context/Context?/
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- SW: Not from the group, no
- 18:52:08 [ht]
- DO: We did our best to address several individual comments
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- SW: Any response to the publication announcement?
- 18:52:53 [ht]
- DO: Not that I'm aware of
- 18:53:06 [DanC]
- issue-52?
- 18:53:06 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-52 -- Sending passwords in the clear -- RAISED
- 18:53:06 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/52
- 18:53:29 [DanC]
- close issue-52
- 18:53:49 [ht]
- SW: Close the issue now? Wait for Ed?
- 18:54:01 [DanC]
- issue-52?
- 18:54:01 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-52 -- Sending passwords in the clear -- CLOSED
- 18:54:01 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/52
- 18:54:11 [ht]
- TVR: Not necessary, close it and notify him as a courtesy
- 18:54:28 [ht]
- SW: ISSUE-54 / three actions wrt TagSoup
- 18:54:44 [ht]
- DC: Recent progress on validator, some of it public. . .
- 18:54:50 [DanC]
- action-7: http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/11/dreamimg_a_new_css_validator.html
- 18:54:50 [trackbot]
- ACTION-7 draft a position regarding extensibility of HTML and the role of the validator for consideration by the TAG notes added
- 18:55:33 [ht]
- DC: Blog posting by Olivier Theroux, which has attracted favourable comment
- 18:55:43 [ht]
- SW: Waiting for Tim on the other two
- 18:56:20 [DanC]
- s/Olivier Theroux/Olivier Théreaux/
- 18:57:19 [DanC]
- ACTION-188 due 20 Nov 2008
- 18:57:19 [trackbot]
- ACTION-188 Investigate the URL/IRI/Larry Masinter possible resolution of the URL/HTML5 issue. due date now 20 Nov 2008
- 18:57:46 [ht]
- HST: Wrt ACTION-145, I still hope TBL will produce a publication from the positive parts of his paper and his TPAC slides
- 18:58:02 [ht]
- DC: I'm about to get going on ACTION-188
- 18:58:11 [DanC]
- (I'd like us to keep due dates in the future; if the chair expects tbl to continue work on 116, let's give it a due date in the future... e.g. the ftf agenda timeframe...)
- 18:58:12 [ht]
- SW: ISSUE-57 / three actions
- 18:58:17 [DanC]
- action-116 due 1 Dec 2008
- 18:58:17 [trackbot]
- ACTION-116 Align the tabulator internal vocabulary with the vocabulary in the rules http://esw.w3.org/topic/AwwswDboothsRules, getting changes to either as needed. due date now 1 Dec 2008
- 18:58:38 [ht]
- JR: ACTION-184 is about to be done
- 18:58:54 [ht]
- SW: We're expecting something on ACTION-178 for the F2F
- 18:59:08 [ht]
- SW: ISSUE-58 / ACTION-163
- 18:59:22 [ht]
- NW: I still hope to work with Ted Guild on this, it is important
- 18:59:40 [ht]
- SW: ISSUE-60 / three actions
- 18:59:50 [ht]
- NW: I have sent TVR a review
- 19:00:20 [ht]
- SW: I will do ACTION-143 at some point
- 19:00:34 [DanC]
- (possible ftf fodder: the iphone urls thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Oct/0002.html )
- 19:00:53 [ht]
- SW: ACTION-106
- 19:01:08 [ht]
- NW: No progress, but I will try to get that ready for the f2f
- 19:01:27 [ht]
- SW: I have done ACTION-190
- 19:01:36 [ht]
- trackbot, close ACTION-190
- 19:01:36 [trackbot]
- ACTION-190 Make the above resolution visible on www-tag closed
- 19:01:44 [Stuart]
- close action-190
- 19:01:44 [trackbot]
- ACTION-190 Make the above resolution visible on www-tag closed
- 19:02:26 [DanC]
- agenda + ADsafe javascript
- 19:02:27 [ht]
- ACTION-106: NW sent comments to TVR privately
- 19:02:28 [trackbot]
- ACTION-106 Make a pass over the WebArch 2.0 doc't which adds a paragraph, and connects up to issues list notes added
- 19:02:43 [ht]
- trackbot, close ACTION-106
- 19:02:43 [trackbot]
- ACTION-106 Make a pass over the WebArch 2.0 doc't which adds a paragraph, and connects up to issues list closed
- 19:03:02 [ht]
- TVR: I'm not sure about how to take this forward
- 19:03:37 [ht]
- ... I don't plan to pick it up, except to possibly add new uses
- 19:03:52 [ht]
- TVR: I don't see how to get it to the right audience. . .
- 19:04:03 [ht]
- SW, DC: Is there a blog article in there?
- 19:04:10 [DanC]
- found it... http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/hash-in-url
- 19:04:10 [ht]
- TVR: Perhaps. . .
- 19:05:06 [ht]
- DC: Maybe I'll try to adapt it
- 19:05:10 [ht]
- TVR: I will help
- 19:05:43 [ht]
- ACTION: Dan to try to draft a blog posting adapted from http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/hash-in-url, with help from TVR
- 19:05:43 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-193 - Try to draft a blog posting adapted from http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/hash-in-url, with help from TVR [on Dan Connolly - due 2008-11-20].
- 19:06:29 [Stuart]
- issue-61
- 19:06:32 [Stuart]
- issue-61?
- 19:06:32 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-61 -- URI Based Access to Packaged Items -- OPEN
- 19:06:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/61
- 19:07:23 [ht]
- SW: We will discuss that next week
- 19:07:36 [ht]
- Topic: December f2f topics
- 19:07:57 [DanC]
- http://www.adsafe.org/
- 19:08:06 [ht]
- DC: HTML5 and URLs, reread Doug Crockford's safe JavaScript
- 19:08:20 [ht]
- ... He's added a mode to JSLINT which verifies this
- 19:08:37 [ht]
- ... He's very critical of the work on cross-site access controls
- 19:08:51 [ht]
- ... He has an alternative, namely JSON-request
- 19:09:09 [ht]
- ... What could be the improvement, by using JSON instead of XML?
- 19:09:23 [ht]
- ... We could study that space, perhaps
- 19:09:39 [ht]
- TVR: I tried to find the answer to that question, but didn't see it
- 19:10:24 [ht]
- SW: DC, could you assemble a reading list?
- 19:10:45 [ht]
- ... If we scheduled this at the right time, could you join us by phone, TV?
- 19:11:25 [ht]
- TVR: No, sorry, I will be travelling on the 11, and preparing on the day before
- 19:11:39 [ht]
- SW: Sounds like a good idea in any case, DC, reading list please
- 19:11:45 [DanC]
- iphone urls thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Oct/0002.html
- 19:11:56 [ht]
- DC: There there's the iphone: URL thread: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Oct/0002.html
- 19:12:16 [ht]
- ... I can't get this started yet
- 19:12:47 [ht]
- ... MNot says [tongue in cheek?] "We need an Arch Group for this sort of thing"
- 19:13:09 [ht]
- ... I like tel: . . . blog entry: ???
- 19:13:39 [ht]
- SW: We can talk about this on a call -- let's find a slot on one of the next two calls
- 19:13:48 [DanC]
- (blog entry that celebrates tel: support http://www.w3.org/QA/2007/08/iphone_developer_guidelines_pr.html )
- 19:14:05 [ht]
- TVR: We should maybe write down URI schemes we know about
- 19:14:13 [DanC]
- (I try to garden http://esw.w3.org/topic/UriSchemes somewhat actively)
- 19:14:18 [ht]
- ... [lists some]
- 19:14:33 [ht]
- TVR: It does help to look at these
- 19:14:53 [ht]
- HST does review the registered and unregistered schemes lists with some regularity
- 19:15:08 [DanC]
- http://esw.w3.org/topic/UriSchemes/ed2k
- 19:15:48 [ht]
- DC: p2p ones are not lookup + hierarchy
- 19:16:12 [ht]
- ... I am bored by proposals which suggest replacing DNS
- 19:16:19 [ht]
- ... but these don't do that
- 19:16:41 [ht]
- TVR: There are 4 parts to a URI: protocol, host, path and ??
- 19:17:08 [ht]
- ... But consider ??? -- doesn't change the host/DNS part, but changes the handler
- 19:17:34 [ht]
- ... Or ado:, as a protocol identifier for local work [missed some]
- 19:17:36 [DanC]
- (ado isn't among the list in http://esw.w3.org/topic/UriSchemes . hmm.)
- 19:17:40 [Norm]
- Yes, the fact that protocol handlers are easy to register is the interesting angle to me
- 19:18:03 [ht]
- s/and ??/port/
- 19:18:14 [ht]
- s/path port/path and port/
- 19:18:21 [Stuart]
- kind of browser architecture stuff... maybe html5 should say something about plugin handlers...
- 19:19:01 [ht]
- DC: SchemeProtocols is a good area to wander around periodically, not necessarly to try to draw hard conclusions
- 19:19:10 [ht]
- SW: ADJOURNED
- 19:19:25 [Zakim]
- -dorchard
- 19:19:31 [ht]
- RRSAgent, make logs world-visible
- 19:19:32 [Zakim]
- -Norm
- 19:19:34 [Zakim]
- -Stuart
- 19:19:42 [ht]
- RRSAgent, draft minutes
- 19:19:42 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-tagmem-minutes.html ht
- 19:19:44 [Zakim]
- -Raman
- 19:19:55 [Zakim]
- -Ht
- 19:20:03 [ht]
- Take it easy Norm!
- 19:30:10 [DanC]
- ACTION-145: see audio recording of tim's TPAC talk, to appear near http://www.w3.org/2008/10/TPAC/TPDay-Agenda
- 19:30:10 [trackbot]
- ACTION-145 Add public prose around his slides at the AC meeting to make the case for extensiblity and flexible XML notes added
- 20:02:27 [Zakim]
- -Jonathan_Rees
- 20:07:27 [Zakim]
- disconnecting the lone participant, Danc, in TAG_Weekly()1:00PM
- 20:07:29 [Zakim]
- TAG_Weekly()1:00PM has ended
- 20:07:30 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Stuart, Norm, Jonathan_Rees, Danc, Raman, Ht, dorchard
- 20:12:01 [timbl]
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