IRC log of er on 2008-11-07

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08:22:46 [shadi]

<http:connectionAuthority>www.example.org:80</http:connectionAuthority>

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<http:connectionAuthority>123.123.123.123:80</http:connectionAuthority>

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Connection Authority - <definition>

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<label> - <definition>

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Connection Authority - server host and port for a connection

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Connection authority - server host and port for a connection

09:42:33 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to add missing sections for StatusCode and StatusCodeGroup

09:42:34 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-33 - Add missing sections for StatusCode and StatusCodeGroup [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

09:45:46 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to remove appendix A

09:45:46 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-34 - Remove appendix A [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

09:46:05 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to remove OWL restrictions from RDF schema

09:46:05 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-35 - Remove OWL restrictions from RDF schema [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

09:48:34 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to remove appendix B

09:48:34 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-36 - Remove appendix B [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

09:54:44 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to check section numbering in references

09:54:44 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-37 - Check section numbering in references [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:00:47 [JohannesK]

drop ACTION-33

10:01:14 [shadi]

tracker, help

10:01:23 [shadi]

trackbot, help

10:01:23 [trackbot]

See http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

10:01:34 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to move subsections of section 4 to section 2 and rename the headings accordingly

10:01:35 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-38 - Move subsections of section 4 to section 2 and rename the headings accordingly [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:02:02 [JohannesK]

close ACTION-33

10:02:02 [trackbot]

ACTION-33 Add missing sections for StatusCode and StatusCodeGroup closed

10:03:51 [MikeS]

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i'm on the call

10:11:48 [shadi]

hi mike

10:11:56 [shadi]

calling

10:14:48 [shadi]

not getting through

10:16:28 [shadi]

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10:16:33 [shadi]

rrsagent, make minutes

10:16:33 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/07-er-minutes.html shadi

10:20:13 [MikeS]

i'll try hanging up and you can redial

10:20:54 [shadi]

we got through now

10:21:03 [MikeS]

k

10:27:13 [shadi]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Nov/att-0002/WD-HTTP-in-RDF-20081107.xhtml

10:30:54 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to investigate SPARQL queries for conformance notes

10:30:54 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-39 - Investigate SPARQL queries for conformance notes [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:37:29 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to change URIs of external RDF files

10:37:30 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-40 - Change URIs of external RDF files [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:44:00 [shadi]

http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-Content-in-RDF-20080908/

10:47:34 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch change HTTP-in-RDF by adding expectational knowledge and moving content of section 1.2 into section 1

10:47:34 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-41 - Change HTTP-in-RDF by adding expectational knowledge and moving content of section 1.2 into section 1 [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:51:04 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to remove last sentence in section 1.2

10:51:04 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-42 - Remove last sentence in section 1.2 [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:51:26 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to restructure section 2

10:51:26 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-43 - Restructure section 2 [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

10:52:42 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to move section 2.7 to an appendix

10:52:42 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-44 - Move section 2.7 to an appendix [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:04:45 [shadi]

This includes images, multimedia, or other non-text resources. The byte sequence is recorded in Base 64 format and represented as a literal using the "cnt:bytes" property of the "cnt:Base64Content".

11:05:54 [shadi]

Title: Situation A: Byte Sequence of a Non-Text Content

11:06:03 [shadi]

Paraggraph: This includes images, multimedia, or other non-text resources. The byte sequence is recorded in Base 64 format and represented as a literal using the "cnt:bytes" property of the "cnt:Base64Content".

11:10:29 [shadi]

Non-text content should not be represented using "cnt:TextContent".

11:13:12 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to rephrase situations B...F

11:13:12 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-45 - Rephrase situations B...F [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:21:32 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to change section 4 heading to "Limitations of the vocabulary" and add to section 1: sentence and link to section 4

11:21:32 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-46 - Change section 4 heading to \"Limitations of the vocabulary\" and add to section 1: sentence and link to section 4 [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:21:57 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to drop appendix A

11:21:57 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-47 - Drop appendix A [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:22:56 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to drop appendix B

11:22:56 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-48 - Drop appendix B [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:23:26 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to check internal references

11:23:26 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-49 - Check internal references [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:24:35 [JohannesK]

ACTION jkoch to add link to appendix C from section 2.4

11:24:35 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-50 - Add link to appendix C from section 2.4 [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

11:26:58 [JohannesK]

ACTION shadi to show HTTP-in-RDF and Content-in-RDF to TimBL

11:26:58 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-51 - Show HTTP-in-RDF and Content-in-RDF to TimBL [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-11-14].

11:29:58 [shadi]

action shadi to contact someone from IETF about http-in-rdf

11:29:58 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-52 - Contact someone from IETF about http-in-rdf [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-11-14].

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12:31:38 [shadi]

hey mike - restarting

12:36:53 [shadi]

zakim, timer

12:46:17 [shadi]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2008Oct/0009.html

13:39:08 [shadi]

action: ciglesia add section 3 "Pointer Conventions" and put into that an editor note about the intent of this work, and pointing to some of the archived mails and discussion

13:39:09 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-53 - Add section 3 \"Pointer Conventions\" and put into that an editor note about the intent of this work, and pointing to some of the archived mails and discussion [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

13:40:16 [shadi]

issue

13:49:44 [carlosI]

action: ciglesia to develop a propossal for more specific pointers conventions based on the use case of WCAG 2 Techniques

13:49:44 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-54 - Develop a propossal for more specific pointers conventions based on the use case of WCAG 2 Techniques [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

13:56:55 [carlosI]

action: ciglesia to update the Pointers introduction section following the Content model

13:56:55 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-55 - Update the Pointers introduction section following the Content model [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

13:57:44 [carlosI]

action: ciglesia to merge 1.2 and 1.4 into section 1

13:57:44 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-56 - Merge 1.2 and 1.4 into section 1 [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

13:57:57 [carlosI]

action: ciglesia to look at the namespaces

13:57:57 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-57 - Look at the namespaces [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

14:04:48 [shadi]

action: shadi to ping jim ley, nick kew, and chaals about help with "fuzzy pointers" (section 2.3.4)

14:04:48 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-58 - Ping jim ley, nick kew, and chaals about help with \"fuzzy pointers\" (section 2.3.4) [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-11-14].

14:05:45 [carlosI]

ciglesia: describe classes and properties following the same model as in the rest of publications

14:06:10 [carlosI]

action: ciglesia to describe classes and properties following the same model as in the rest of publications

14:06:10 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-59 - Describe classes and properties following the same model as in the rest of publications [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

14:21:35 [JohannesK]

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14:34:24 [shadi]

Topic: EARL Guide

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scribe: shadi

14:35:50 [shadi]

Primary audience: developers of tools such as accessibility checkers, validators, or other quality assurance tools

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Secondary audience: metadata applications, accessibility researchers, semantic Web practitioners

14:40:34 [shadi]

Purpose: describe how to use the EARL 1.0 Schema, HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and PointerMethods to report evaluation results

14:44:29 [shadi]

Purpose 1: describe how to use the EARL 1.0 Schema

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Purpose 2: describe how to use HTTP-in-RDF, Content-in-RDF, and PointerMethods to supplement EARL 1.0 Schema

14:46:06 [shadi]

It is *NOT* the purpose to teach developers RDF

14:47:29 [shadi]

We also want to describe some of the benefits and use-cases for EARL

14:48:48 [shadi]

Approach 1: provide a tutorial-like introduction

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Approach 2: provide several code examples that build onto each other

14:53:02 [shadi]

Approach 3: provide more background on some of the key classes, however should not list all classes exhaustively

15:14:22 [MikeS]

introduction includes 1) audience, 2) purpose of guide and purpose fo EARL, 3) overall structure of the guide

15:14:39 [MikeS]

and maybe some sample use cases

15:17:13 [MikeS]

Section 2: What is EARL: 1) purpose of EARL, 2) use cases

15:20:20 [MikeS]

3) possibly EARL 1.0 Schema v. supplementary documents (eg HTTP in RDF, Content in RDF, Pointer Methods in RDF) - these are independent but related

15:21:11 [MikeS]

change documents to vocabularies

15:24:39 [shadi]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2008/11/guide-outline.html

15:29:44 [MikeS]

4) how EARL fits into a testing process

15:34:36 [shadi]

http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2008/11/guide-outline.html

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15:51:16 [shadi]

action: CarlosV provide updated EARL 1.0 Guide by 1 December 2008

15:51:16 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-60 - Provide updated EARL 1.0 Guide by 1 December 2008 [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2008-11-14].

15:53:00 [shadi]

action: CarlosI provide updated Pointer Methods by 24 November 2008

15:53:00 [trackbot]

Sorry, couldn't find user - CarlosI

15:53:18 [shadi]

action: cigelisia provide updated Pointer Methods by 24 November 2008

15:53:18 [trackbot]

Sorry, couldn't find user - cigelisia

15:53:27 [shadi]

action: ciglesia provide updated Pointer Methods by 24 November 2008

15:53:27 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-61 - Provide updated Pointer Methods by 24 November 2008 [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2008-11-14].

15:54:29 [shadi]

action: jkoch provide updated HTTP-in-RDF *or* Content-in-RDF by 17 November 2008, the other one by 24 November 2008

15:54:29 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-62 - Provide updated HTTP-in-RDF *or* Content-in-RDF by 17 November 2008, the other one by 24 November 2008 [on Johannes Koch - due 2008-11-14].

15:58:07 [shadi]

action: shadi provide updated EARL 1.0 Schema by 17 November 2008

15:58:07 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-63 - Provide updated EARL 1.0 Schema by 17 November 2008 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2008-11-14].

15:59:28 [shadi]

Next Meeting: Wednesday 19 November 2008

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/07-er-minutes.html shadi