IRC log of rif-prd on 2008-11-04
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- SW_RIF(PRD)1:00PM has now started
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-rif-prd-minutes.html csma
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- zakim, ??P4 is me
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- +csma; got it
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- zakim, clear agenda
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- agenda cleared
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- agendum+ Action review
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- agendum+ Conflict resolution
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- agendum+ Bind action
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- agendum+ Publication planning
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- +Gary
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- Scribe: Changhai
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- scribenick: cke
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- next item
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- review of the actions
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- Item 1: conflict resolution
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- Review and validate the CR proposal , as agreed in Orlando
- 18:09:21 [csma]
- PROPOSED: In RIF-PRD, the conflict resolution strategy that is intended for a set of rules will be indicated using keywords, at the group level. RIF-PRD 1.0 will specify one conflict resolution strategy (corresponding keyword to be determined) that can be summarize as follows: apply refraction to the conflict set, then order remaining instances by priority, the order top priority instances by recency (most recent first), then break remaing ties arbitrarily (precis
- 18:09:26 [cke]
- About csma's emmail, feedback from Changhai & Gary, but not others
- 18:09:43 [Gary]
- +1
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- The corner cases discussion
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- top level group vs. subgroups
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- +[IPcaller]
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- CR strategy associated only to toplevel group?
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- Proposed: specify the CR only to the toplevel group. Any CR in subgroups can be rejected
- 18:18:55 [csma]
- PROPOSED: conflict resolution has to be associated with the top-level group, in PRD 1.0.
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- RESOLVED: conflict resolution has to be associated with the top-level group, in PRD 1.0.
- 18:20:04 [cke]
- What about one document with any CR strategy?
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- s/with any/without any/
- 18:21:36 [csma]
- PROPOSED: rif:standardForward is the mandatory default conflict resolution strategy is none is associated with the top level group.
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- s/is none/if none/
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- RESOLVED: rif:standardForward is the mandatory default conflict resolution strategy if none is associated with the top level group.
- 18:22:46 [cke]
- Now about priority...
- 18:23:59 [csma]
- priority can be any integer, positive or negative?
- 18:24:04 [Gary]
- how about xsd:int (or the closest we have in DTB)/
- 18:24:13 [csma]
- changhai: yes, and zero is the default
- 18:25:18 [cke]
- is a priority a signed integer? with positive or negative integer?
- 18:28:41 [csma]
- PROPOSED: priority is a signed integer, positive or negative and default is zero.
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- RESOLVED: priority is a signed integer, positive or negative and default is zero.
- 18:31:26 [Gary]
- [-1000..1000]
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- [-1000000..1000000]
- 18:33:00 [cke]
- I propose [-10000 ... 10000] to better suit coding convention
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- PROPOSED: range is [-100000..+10000]
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- PROPOSED: range is [-10000..+10000]
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- RESOLVED: range is [-10000..+10000]
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- rule R has priority 10
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- <Group>...<Priority>10</Priority> R </Group>
- 18:39:58 [Gary]
- PROPOSED: rule priority is given by the immediately containing Group. If that group has no explicit priority, then the priority is 0
- 18:43:15 [csma]
- <Group><Group><Group>R</Group></Group></Group>
- 18:44:17 [Gary]
- group p=1 (group p=2( rule1) rule2) => rule1 has pri=2, rule2 has pri=1
- 18:45:12 [csma]
- <Group><Group>R1<Group>(priority = 1)R2</Group></Group></Group>
- 18:46:02 [cke]
- or we can have: <Group><Group>R1<Group>(priority = default)R2</Group></Group></Group> in this case, you don't write the priority
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- Group
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- Group
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- priority=1
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- R1
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- Group
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- priority=2
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- R2
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- Group
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- Group
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- priority=1
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- R2
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- Group
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- priority=2
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- R1
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- RESOLVED: rule priority is given by the immediately containing Group. If that group has no explicit priority, then the priority is 0.
- 18:49:22 [cke]
- if "prority=2"is removed, then R2 will have the priority "default" (so zero)
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- next item
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- zakim, take up item 3
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- agendum 3. "Bind action" taken up [from csma]
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- -[IPcaller]
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- -Gary
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- -csma
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- SW_RIF(PRD)1:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were csma, Gary, [IPcaller]
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- rrsagent, list attendees
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- I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', csma. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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- zakim, list attendees
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- sorry, csma, I don't know what conference this is
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- zakim, this is rifprd
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- sorry, csma, I do not see a conference named 'rifprd' in progress or scheduled at this time
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-rif-prd-minutes.html csma