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15:32:56 <dom> RRSAgent, make log public
15:32:56 <dom> Zakim, this will be TS
15:32:56 <Zakim> ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 28 minutes
15:33:04 <dom> Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
15:33:27 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0001.html
15:33:30 <dom> Chair: Dom
15:58:02 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
15:58:10 <Zakim> + +47.23.69.aaaa
15:58:35 <dom> zakim, code?
15:58:35 <Zakim> the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
15:58:55 <dom> zakim, aaaa is wilhelm
15:58:55 <Zakim> +wilhelm; got it
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15:59:06 <Zakim> + +49.238.aabb
15:59:08 <Zakim> -wilhelm
15:59:09 <Zakim> +wilhelm
15:59:10 <dom> zakim, aabb is me
15:59:10 <Zakim> +dom; got it
15:59:55 <Zakim> +??P34
16:00:10 <dom> zakim, ??P34 is kai
16:00:11 <Zakim> +kai; got it
16:01:19 <dom> Topic: Widgets testing
16:02:41 <dom> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/21-wam-minutes.html#item09 Minutes of meeting on testing widgets with web apps wg
16:03:15 <dom> Kai: would be helpful to get feedback from you guys at Opera, in particular Arve on this
16:04:17 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Nov/0000.html Kai's message on widgets testing
16:05:10 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to follow up on widgets testing with Kai
16:05:26 <dom> Kai: current status: no real issues, but needs some feedback
16:06:05 <dom> ... I found some inconsistencies in the spec
16:06:25 <dom> ... among other things in the relaxng
16:07:06 <dom> ... I sent mails to the editor based on these
16:08:10 <dom> ... found some weird usage of "its:dir", not sure that was intended
16:08:19 <dom> Dom: its: comes from International tag set, a W3C spec
16:08:50 <dom> Kai: hopefully this will help the spec
16:09:38 <dom> ACTION: Kai to forward his notes to the webapps list and to announce his early work on testing
16:10:42 <hendry> http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtqa;a=tree;f=compression-level;
16:13:17 <hendry> http://git.webvm.net/?p=wgtqa;a=blob;f=compression-level/Makefile;
16:14:54 <hendry> `git clone git://git.webvm.net/wgtqa`
16:16:16 <dom> Topic: Cookies test suite
16:16:27 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into opera's test suites for cookies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/02-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] 
16:16:32 <Zakim> +Carmelo
16:17:16 <dom> Topic: Thanks to Carmelo
16:17:56 <dom> Dom: thanks for all your work
16:18:04 <dom> Topic: Device Independent Testing Guidelines
16:18:11 <dom> ACTION: Carmelo to update the di guidelines based on the comments received so far [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/10/14-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING]
16:18:23 <dom> Carmelo: did some minor editing, but will get back to this soon
16:19:06 <hendry> http://dev.w3.org/2008/dev-ind-testing/guidelines.html
16:19:11 <dom> Dom: everyone should feel free to bring edits to the document, now that it is in CVS
16:19:22 <dom> Topic: Bringing more visibility to web compatibility test suite
16:19:43 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Oct/0015.html Dom's message on WCT
16:20:55 <dom> Dom: does that sound goo?
16:20:59 <dom> s/goo/good/
16:21:09 <dom> Wilhelm: sounds good indeed
16:21:12 <dom> Kai: yes
16:21:22 <dom> ...  not sure about detailing the technical aspects
16:22:26 <dom> ... wouldn't it be effective to file bugs on the relevant browsers?
16:24:09 <dom> Dom: I think doing a technical report is a better way to get visibility in the W3C community
16:24:18 <dom> ... would also help to get a press release rolling
16:26:54 <dom> Wilhelm: I'm not sure how much additional work needed for the technical report
16:26:58 <dom> ... a press release would be great
16:27:04 <dom> Carmelo: +1
16:28:14 <dom> ACTION: Dom to check about requirements for press release on web compatibility test
16:28:32 <hendry> http://www.w3.org/Mobile/
16:28:37 <dom> Kai: would be good if it was easier to get to the web compatibility test
16:28:51 <hendry> from that site it's hard to find http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/
16:28:56 <dom> ACTION: Dom to make it easier to get to wct from /Mobile on W3C site
16:29:05 <hendry> and http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/ is a monster URL. Ideally it should as short as possible ..
16:29:36 <hendry> or w3.mobi?
16:30:05 <dom> http://xrl.us/bmqox
16:30:25 <hendry> len(xrl.us/bmqox) > w3.mobi :P
16:32:00 <dom> Kai: would be to raise the profile of building acid test-like things than building guidelines
16:32:53 <dom> dom: difficult to get people interested in building tests, unfortunately
16:33:32 <dom> Topic: Next teleconf
16:33:47 <hendry> not in UK either btw
16:34:42 <dom> RESOLUTION: Wilhelm to chair call on Nov 11
16:35:55 <Zakim> -wilhelm
16:35:56 <Zakim> -kai
16:35:56 <Zakim> -Carmelo
16:35:58 <Zakim> -dom
16:35:58 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
16:35:59 <Zakim> Attendees were +47.23.69.aaaa, wilhelm, +49.238.aabb, dom, kai, Carmelo
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16:36:42 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:36:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/04-mwts-minutes.html dom
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