00:47:56 Zakim has left #sml 16:00:22 RRSAgent has joined #sml 16:00:22 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/10/29-sml-irc 16:02:52 johnarwe_ has joined #sml 16:03:04 lencharest has joined #sml 16:08:53 scribe: Len Charest 16:09:04 scribenick: lencharest 16:10:28 agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Oct/0015.html 16:11:16 Kumar has joined #sml 16:12:01 meeting: SML WG face-to-face day 3 16:12:17 MSM has joined #sml 16:12:20 Chair: John Arwe 16:13:06 Topic: Test case for intra-doc keyref 16:13:33 ginny has joined #sml 16:14:34 Pratul: We're not trying to develop an exhaustive test suite. 16:15:38 Pratul: Focus on core scenarios. 16:16:31 Zakim has joined #sml 16:18:45 Liam has joined #sml 16:20:05 RESOLUTION: WG will accept a test for intra-document keyref if such a test is volunteered, but intra-doc keyref is not a required test case. 16:21:55 zakim, this will be XML_SMLWG 16:21:55 ok, lencharest; I see XML_SMLWG()11:00AM scheduled to start 81 minutes ago 16:22:33 Topic: COSMOS test case InvalidMultipleDocument 16:22:54 Ginny: Wouldn't this be detected by normal schema validation? 16:23:46 Sandy has joined #sml 16:24:10 John: No, smlif:data is a wildcard. 16:25:17 ginny checked current schema, /data content is wildcard w/ maxoccurs=1 so it should in fact be a schema validation issue. this might not have been true originally (in the Submission) 16:27:49 Topic: COSMOS test cases where description does not match intent of test 16:28:34 Ginny: For example, Base64Encoded* tests 16:32:54 Kumar: I will add disambiguating comments to our feature/test spreadsheet 16:35:36 rrsagent, generate minutes 16:35:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/29-sml-minutes.html lencharest 16:39:02 Topic: Need specific test for schema-complete? 16:41:07 rrsagent, make log public 16:42:24 zakim, who is here 16:42:24 lencharest, you need to end that query with '?' 16:42:32 zakim, who is here? 16:42:32 XML_SMLWG()11:00AM has not yet started, lencharest 16:42:34 On IRC I see Sandy, Liam, Zakim, ginny, MSM, Kumar, lencharest, johnarwe_, RRSAgent, pratul, trackbot 16:42:43 zakim, this is sml 16:42:43 johnarwe_, I see XML_SMLWG()11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be sml". 16:43:28 present: len, pratul, john, kumar, ginny 16:43:49 rrsagent, generate minutes 16:43:49 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/29-sml-minutes.html lencharest 16:45:26 Microsoft's implementation does not support schema bindings and therefore this implementation is a test for last paragraph of 5.4.3 in IF (construction of default schema) 16:56:59 Topic: Identifying relevant features for each test case in test/feature spreadsheet 17:01:58 Kirk has joined #sml 17:02:32 Ok, please open the telephone line (if it is not already open). Thank you. 17:03:45 XML_SMLWG()11:00AM has now started 17:03:52 +??P8 17:04:09 zakim, ??P8 is Kirk 17:04:09 +Kirk; got it 17:04:33 +[Microsoft] 17:06:45 rrsagent, generate minutes 17:06:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/29-sml-minutes.html lencharest 17:24:24 Description of test InvalidBareNameMultipleSchemes should mention that both refs are sml:uri 17:27:26 Ginny: Change test s.t. two sml:uri refs that resolve to the *same* target must produce an error 17:28:21 rrsagent, generate minutes 17:28:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/29-sml-minutes.html lencharest 17:30:58 To answer your question John: Not very well. 17:36:40 I'm not sure what would help.--and my experience is that other anything probably couldn't be sustained. I can follow points in the discussion. And I have to leave anyway for another call in about an hour. 17:40:55 That will help somewhat. What line are you on now? 17:41:04 117 17:41:48 WOW!! That went fast!! 17:45:28 Observe that many tests erroneously use two instances of sml:uri in the same ref, thereby making the test itself invalid. 17:46:26 Some tests can be remediated by simply changing the sml:uri element names to something else. 18:14:18 Kumar: Will convert spreadsheet to XML and post to public-sml. 18:19:37 -Kirk 18:19:51 -[Microsoft] 18:19:52 XML_SMLWG()11:00AM has ended 18:19:52 Attendees were Kirk, [Microsoft] 18:55:50 Kumar has joined #sml 18:55:59 scribe: Kumar Pandit 18:56:23 pratul has joined #sml 18:56:30 scribenick: Kumar 18:56:54 zakim, which meeting is this? 18:56:54 I don't understand your question, johnarwe_. 18:57:03 zakim, help 18:57:03 Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help. 18:57:06 Some of the commands I know are: 18:57:07 xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx 18:57:10 if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted 18:57:12 xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx 18:57:14 I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx 18:57:16 xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group 18:57:18 xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx 18:57:21 who's here? - lists the participants on the phone 18:57:23 who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted 18:57:25 mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#) 18:57:28 unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61# 18:57:31 is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present 18:57:33 list conferences - reports the active conferences 18:57:34 this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx 18:57:35 excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel 18:57:36 I last learned something new on $Date: 2008/10/29 21:31:28 $ 18:58:00 zakim, this is sml 18:58:00 johnarwe_, I see XML_SMLWG()11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be sml". 18:58:53 pratul: ...describes the layout of the xlink based sml ref scheme doc. 18:59:21 pratul: section 2 contains the actual definition of the scheme. 19:06:26 pratul: ...further explains the scheme def using examples in the subsequent sections. 19:13:15 pratul: we should ask ms about the format in which the note can be published. 19:19:27 kumar: let us have msm and sandy to review the note before we vote on whether to publish the note. 19:33:38 topic: needs review bugs 19:33:40 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6188 20:07:03 kumar: we are done for the day. I will work on xml conversion of the excel data and run sml validator on the new test cases. 20:07:17 kumar: the SML WG meeting is done for the day. 21:29:27 Zakim has left #sml