IRC log of wai-wcag on 2008-10-02
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- meeting: WCAG Face to Face Day 2
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- chair: Gregg Vanderheiden
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- agenda: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2008/10/ftf-meeting#Thursday
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- http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/glance
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20080926f2fprep/results#xq9
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- sequence of characters that can be programmatically determined, where the sequence is expressing something in human language
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- language that is spoken, written or signed (through visual or tactile means) to communicate with humans
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- http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Accessibility_Supported_Technology
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- Technologies can only be relied upon to conform to WCAG 2.0 if they are used in a way that is "accessibility supported."
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- scribe: Ben
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- Topic: Accessibility Supported Technology (Guidelines Language)
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- test
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- The presence of a conforming alternative version does not effect the need to ensure compliance with each of the following for all content on the page, including content that is not relied on.
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- 2nd sentence of conformance intro:
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- Finally, it describes what it means for to be accessibility-supported, since only accessibility-supported uses of technologies can be relied upon for conformance.
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- RESOLUTION: Accept changes related to accessibility-supported uses of technologies as amended. http://trace.wisc.edu/wcag_wiki/index.php?title=Accessibility_Supported_Technology#Edits_within_Conformance_requirements
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- q+
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- q+
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- q+ to ask What about technologies for which developer does not cooperate to fully populate uses into the database?
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- q+ to ask Who examines conflicts in test results? Technology developer? The maintaining entity? A review board of some kind?
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- q+ to ask Failures that cannot be replicated should be marked as "not replicated", not removed.
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- q+ to ask If the database is not used, what other mechanisms exist to provide evidence to substantiate claims that uses of a technology are accessibility support?
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- Topic: Accessibility Support
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- q+
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- q-
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- q+ filtering on user agent and AT versions
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- q+
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- q+
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- q+
- 18:18:59 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- ack me
- 18:18:59 [Zakim]
- MichaelC_WCAG, you wanted to ask What about technologies for which developer does not cooperate to fully populate uses into the database? and to ask Who examines conflicts in test
- 18:19:03 [Zakim]
- ... results? Technology developer? The maintaining entity? A review board of some kind? and to ask Failures that cannot be replicated should be marked as "not replicated", not
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- ... removed. and to ask If the database is not used, what other mechanisms exist to provide evidence to substantiate claims that uses of a technology are accessibility support?
- 18:19:16 [greggvanderheiden]
- ack lorett
- 18:24:05 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ Katie
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- ack g
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- ack b
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- ack ben
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- q+
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- ack kat
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- q+
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- q+ katie
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- ack a
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- q+
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- ack kat
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- q+ alex
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- ack G
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- q+
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack awk
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- ack alex
- 18:44:19 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to say we are still stuck with the CR exit requirement to document support for 2 technologies; but we'll be really smart to go in saying "during implementation it's the uses that matter, and here's a collection of uses that we propose be taken as the documentation for a given technology"
- 18:45:28 [greggvanderheiden]
- ack mich
- 18:45:28 [Zakim]
- MichaelC_WCAG, you wanted to say we are still stuck with the CR exit requirement to document support for 2 technologies; but we'll be really smart to go in saying "during
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- ... implementation it's the uses that matter, and here's a collection of uses that we propose be taken as the documentation for a given technology"
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- ack gr
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- q+
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- ack l
- 18:54:31 [greggvanderheiden]
- q+ cynthia
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- q+
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- q-
- 18:57:24 [Loretta]
- ack andi
- 18:57:26 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to say I'm comfortable with database not being "the documentation", but I do think the accessibility support must require that there be replicable substantiation of any claim that a use is accessibility supported
- 18:57:49 [awk]
- q+
- 18:58:55 [greggvanderheiden]
- ack g
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- q+
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- ack c
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- q+
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- ack m
- 19:30:04 [Zakim]
- MichaelC_WCAG, you wanted to say I'm comfortable with database not being "the documentation", but I do think the accessibility support must require that there be replicable
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- ... substantiation of any claim that a use is accessibility supported
- 19:30:15 [greggvanderheiden]
- q+ cynthia
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- ack awk
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- ack a
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- ack gr
- 19:38:58 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to say we need to demonstrate implementability of the accessibility support concept - we don't have to demonstrate a given implementation of it that is expected to be a long-term solution
- 19:40:46 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to say VPAT information is usually unsubstantiated and sometimes demonstrably false - we need accessibility support to require that the substantiation exist
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- q+
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- ack l
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- ack c
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- q+
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- q+ to say I can support Cynthia's proposal *as long as the test files, procedures, and results are also published*
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- q+
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- q+
- 19:51:54 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to say the accessibility support database proposal is much like Consumer Reports and I think is fair use under copyright / trademark law
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- ack me
- 19:52:30 [Zakim]
- MichaelC_WCAG, you wanted to say we need to demonstrate implementability of the accessibility support concept - we don't have to demonstrate a given implementation of it that is
- 19:52:34 [Zakim]
- ... expected to be a long-term solution and to say VPAT information is usually unsubstantiated and sometimes demonstrably false - we need accessibility support to require that the
- 19:52:38 [Zakim]
- ... substantiation exist and to say I can support Cynthia's proposal *as long as the test files, procedures, and results are also published* and to say the accessibility support
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- ... database proposal is much like Consumer Reports and I think is fair use under copyright / trademark law
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- +??P0
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- zakim, ??P0 is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
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- MichaelC_WCAG has changed the topic to: FtF is finishing queue, will dial into call shortly
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- zakim, close queue
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- ok, MichaelC_WCAG, the speaker queue is closed
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- MichaelC_WCAG has changed the topic to:
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- + +1.617.219.aaaa
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre
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- zakim, +1.617 is FtF
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- ?
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- +FtF; got it
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- yes
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- zakim, open queue
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- ok, MichaelC_WCAG, the speaker queue is open
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- q+ cynthia
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- microfon is dead
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- +??P3
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- +Don_Evans
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- zakim, FtF has Gregg Vanderheiden, Ben Caldwell, Michael Cooper, Andrew Kirkpatrick, David MacDonald, Katie Haritos-Shea, Cynthia Shelly, Alex Li, Sofia Celic, Andi Snow-Weaver, Loretta Guarino Reid
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- +Gregg, Vanderheiden, Ben, Caldwell, Michael, Cooper, Andrew, Kirkpatrick, David, MacDonald, Katie, Haritos-Shea, Cynthia, Shelly, Alex, Li, Sofia, Celic, Andi, Snow-Weaver,
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- ... Loretta, Guarino, Reid; got it
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- Zakim, ??P3 is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- zakim, you drive me nuts sometimes!
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- I don't understand 'you drive me nuts sometimes!', MichaelC_WCAG
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- zakim, tell Ralph that.
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- I don't understand 'tell Ralph that', MichaelC_WCAG
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- zakim, who's your daddy?
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- Ralph is taking good care of me but you all are my family, MichaelC_WCAG
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- +??P0
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- zakim, ??P0 is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
- 20:04:59 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- zakim, Gregg Vanderheiden, Ben Caldwell, Michael Cooper, Andrew Kirkpatrick, David MacDonald, Katie Haritos-Shea, Cynthia Shelly, Alex Li, Sofia Celic, Andi Snow-Weaver, Loretta Guarino Reid is no longer in FtF
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- I don't understand you, MichaelC_WCAG
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- http://www.mibbit.com/
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- zakim, Vanderheiden has left FtF
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- -Vanderheiden; got it
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- zakim, Caldwell, Cooper has left FtF
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- I don't understand 'Caldwell, Cooper has left FtF', MichaelC_WCAG
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- zakim, Caldwell and Cooper has left FtF
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- I don't understand 'Caldwell and Cooper has left FtF', MichaelC_WCAG
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- zakim, Caldwell, Cooper have left FtF
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- I don't understand 'Caldwell, Cooper have left FtF', MichaelC_WCAG
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- zakim, Caldwell has left FtF
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- -Caldwell; got it
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- zakim, Cooper has left FtF
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- -Cooper; got it
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Kirkpatrick; got it
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- -MacDonald; got it
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- zakim, Haritos-Shea has left FtF
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- -Haritos-Shea; got it
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- zakim, Shelly has left FtF
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- -Shelly; got it
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- zakim, Li has left FtF
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- -Li; got it
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- -Celic; got it
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- -Snow-Weaver; got it
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- -Guarino; got it
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- zakim, Reid has left FtF
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- -Reid; got it
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- zakim, who's on the phone?
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- On the phone I see FtF, Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Ellero, Don_Evans, Bengt_Farre, Christophe_Strobbe
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- FtF has Gregg, Ben, Michael, Andrew, David, Katie, Cynthia, Alex, Sofia, Andi, Loretta
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- q+
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- q+
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zaki, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero
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- zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- sorry, I am with 56K modem
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- q+
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- q+ to ask for clarification of the note associated with Accessibility Support Documentation - item 4 in the exit criteria
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- ack katie
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- q+
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- -Don_Evans
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- q-
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- woot, i am in!
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- q-
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- q+
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- q-
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- q-
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- q- cynthia
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- q- awk
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- ack s
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- Sofia, you wanted to ask for clarification of the note associated with Accessibility Support Documentation - item 4 in the exit criteria
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- + +1.301.933.aabb
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- q-
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- zakim, mute Tim
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- sorry, MichaelC_WCAG, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Tim
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- zakim, Tim is Tim_Boland
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- sorry, MichaelC_WCAG, I do not recognize a party named 'Tim'
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- zakim, +1.301 is Tim_Boland
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- +Tim_Boland; got it
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- zakim, mute Tim
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- Tim_Boland should now be muted
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- ack d
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- q+
- 21:31:46 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to say the issue isn't buying products, it's the content being available to users (who never chose what product you bought)
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- q-
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- ack me
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- MichaelC_WCAG, you wanted to say the issue isn't buying products, it's the content being available to users (who never chose what product you bought)
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- q-
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- q-
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- q+
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- -Roberto_Ellero
- 21:46:51 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q+ to ask if we need to make any normative decisions before the end of the call in 15 minutes
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- -Tim_Boland
- 22:15:54 [MichaelC_WCAG]
- q-
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- q-
- 22:22:58 [greggvanderheiden]
- DEVELOPMENT OF TECHNIQUES AND ACCESSIBILITY SUPPORT FOR NEW TECHNOLOGIES
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- 1.Picked a technology
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- 2.Picked uses that were challenging – looked hard
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- 3.Mapped uses against Success Criteria
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- 4.Made sure there was something for each success criteria (or aspect of the SC) where it was needed and possible.
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- 5.Wrote a statement of what I was trying to do
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- 6.Created implementations to do that
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- 7.Used API to screen for problems
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- 8.(throughout I sent in bug reports and got them fixed)
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- a.With product team
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- b.With AT vendor(s)
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- 9.Tested with AT that I have
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- 10.(throughout I sent in bug reports and got them fixed)
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- a.With product team
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- b.With AT vendor(s)
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- DOCUMENTING THE ACCESSIBILITY SUPPORT ACROSS COMBINATIONS
- 22:23:22 [greggvanderheiden]
- 1.Took the techniques documented for the technology
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- 2.Broke out permutations where necessary
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- 3.Looked at all the features of the technology that related to user interface and would relate to accessibility
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- a.(for programmatic language (script) look mostly at techniques to meet specific SC)
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- 4.Create test pages for each use
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- 5.Have different people test them with the AT/Platforms they have.
- 22:23:36 [greggvanderheiden]
- 6.Document combinations where they don't work and also situations (settings etc) where it works/not.
- 22:23:38 [greggvanderheiden]
- WAYS OF DOCUMENTING ACCESSIBILITY SUPPORT
- 22:23:39 [greggvanderheiden]
- 1.Queriable base of data
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- 2.Report
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- WHAT IF YOU WANT TO USE A TECHNIQUE THAT IS NOT IN DOCUMENTATION
- 22:23:45 [greggvanderheiden]
- 1.Test the technique yourself across AT/Platform combinations
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- 2.Ask Technology Vendor (or AT vendors) to test it
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- a.(and potentially submit it for documentation for others’ use)
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- WHAT IS BEING DONE TO PUBLICLY DOCUMENT ACCESSIBILITY SUPPORT OF W3C TECHNOLOGIES?
- 22:23:54 [greggvanderheiden]
- 1.Listing of the “uses” of the technology
- 22:23:55 [greggvanderheiden]
- a.Ideally it would cover all uses that relate to success criteria that are AT dependent.
- 22:23:57 [greggvanderheiden]
- 2.Creating tests implementations of each of the uses
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- 3.Testing each of the uses
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- 4.Providing the results including a listing of the Permutations of OS/UA/AT+ extensions tested
- 22:24:04 [greggvanderheiden]
- 5.Providing the samples of the ‘uses’ that were used for testing (e.g. web page with compiled sample of the use) (allows reproducibility).
- 22:24:07 [greggvanderheiden]
- a.The test samples are designed to be suitable across other permutations (allows expanding of the support testing beyond what was done) – but not required
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -FtF
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- bye
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
- 22:32:11 [Zakim]
- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Bengt_Farre, Bruce_Bailey, +1.617.219.aaaa, Don_Evans, Gregg, Vanderheiden, Ben, Caldwell, Michael, Cooper, Andrew, Kirkpatrick, David, MacDonald, Katie,
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