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19:55:59 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
19:55:59 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 56 minutes ago
19:56:05 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
19:56:34 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2008JulSep/0100.html
19:57:00 <Jan> Regrets: Ann M., Tim B.
19:57:20 <AndrewR> AndrewR has joined #au
19:58:05 <jeanne> zakim, code?
19:58:05 <Zakim> the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne
19:58:18 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
19:58:26 <Zakim> +Jeanne
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20:01:00 <Zakim> + +1.561.582.aaaa
20:01:27 <jeanne> zakim, aaaa is really Sueann
20:01:27 <Zakim> +Sueann; got it
20:01:37 <Zakim> +??P5
20:01:47 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:52 <Zakim> -Sueann
20:02:01 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
20:02:01 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
20:02:26 <Jan> zakim, who's here?
20:02:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jeanne, ??P5, Jan
20:02:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sueann, AndrewR, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, jeanne, trackbot
20:02:48 <Zakim> +Sueann
20:03:01 <Jan> zakim, ??P5 is really AndrewR
20:03:01 <Zakim> +AndrewR; got it
20:03:04 <Zakim> +Greg_Pisocky
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20:06:59 <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20080929/WD-ATAG20-20080929
20:09:28 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-ATAG20-20080310/
20:12:04 <Jan> Chair: Jan
20:12:38 <Greg> AI: Jan and Jean to come up with rationale text for Part A
20:12:59 <Greg> Soryy Jeanne
20:14:59 <Greg> Jan - rationale is not to push this group's scope into the arenas of other standards groups concerned with general accessibility issues
20:15:20 <Greg> Jan also seeking thoughts on the issue checking
20:15:52 <Greg> Andrew the whole concept of dropping benchmark documents deserves to be addressed
20:16:27 <Greg> Jan: Yes we need to address the whole relationship to WCAG section
20:16:29 <Jan> Action: JR, JS: Update http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20080929/WD-ATAG20-20080929.html#intro-rel-wcag
20:16:29 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - JR,
20:17:16 <Greg> Action: Jan and Jeanne to come up with rationale text for Part A
20:17:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - And Jeanne to come up with rationale text for Part A [on Jan Richards - due 2008-10-06].
20:19:03 <Jan> QUESTIONS: Rationale for narrowing Part A, Checking B.2.2, rationale for removing "Benchmark Documents"
20:22:23 <jeanne> If authors are asked for any information as content is being added or updated (e.g., by an image modification dialog), then the tool also prominently asks for any accessibility information required for that content to meet WCAG Level A. 
20:24:17 <Greg> B.2.1 instead of going from "cued" to "ask" what about using the term "prompt" ?
20:25:33 <Jan> Action JS: Use prompt instead of cue
20:25:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Use prompt instead of cue [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-10-06].
20:26:25 <Greg> B.2.2.1 Another example: A tool that inserts images should also check for alt text
20:33:45 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20080929/WD-ATAG20-20080929.html#intro-def-au
20:34:50 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20080929/WD-ATAG20-20080929.html#def-Authoring-Permission
20:42:24 <Greg> Topics for Face to Face agenda
20:42:30 <jeanne> action: JS to create an issue with the text of the editors note on definition of Authoring Tool and delete that editor's note from the guidelines. 
20:42:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - Create an issue with the text of the editors note on definition of Authoring Tool and delete that editor's note from the guidelines.  [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-10-06].
20:42:40 <Greg> All need to register even if attendign by phone
20:43:31 <Greg> Register and indicate participation by phone so Jeann can do the count
20:44:32 <Greg> Discuss issues in chunks for 1st day and do the entire draft on day 2
20:44:40 <jeanne> +1
20:45:57 <Jan> JR: ideas for topics: Defn of authoring tools re: future events; checking issues...
20:46:39 <Greg> What are some items you would like to see fixed before it becomes CR?
20:47:08 <Jan> JS: Top to bottom review to include check for language consistency
20:48:12 <Jan> JS: Levels of conformance
20:48:44 <Jan> JR: PRINCIPLE A.1: Authoring tool user interfaces must follow applicable accessibility guidelines
20:49:25 <Jan> JR: Relationship between templates, automatic generation and future events.
20:52:31 <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/10f2f
20:53:38 <Zakim> -Jan
20:53:40 <Zakim> -Sueann
20:53:42 <Zakim> -Greg_Pisocky
20:53:47 <jeanne> Meeting on 3 October 
20:53:55 <Zakim> -Jeanne
20:54:03 <Zakim> -AndrewR
20:54:04 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
20:54:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne, +1.561.582.aaaa, Sueann, Jan, AndrewR, Greg_Pisocky
20:55:33 <jeanne> rrsagent, make logs public
20:55:40 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:55:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-minutes.html jeanne
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20:57:35 <jeanne> present- 1.561.582.aaaa
20:58:10 <jeanne> scribe+ greg
20:58:19 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:58:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:58:37 <jeanne> scribeOptions: -final
20:58:46 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
20:58:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-minutes.html jeanne
20:59:12 <jeanne> zakim, who was here?
20:59:12 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jeanne.
20:59:20 <jeanne> zakim, who is here?
20:59:20 <Zakim> apparently WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended, jeanne
20:59:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sueann, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeanne, trackbot
20:59:27 <jeanne> zakim, bue
20:59:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'bue', jeanne
20:59:31 <jeanne> zakim, bye
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21:01:02 <jeanne> present 1 +1.561.582.aaaa
21:02:15 <jeanne> scribenick:greg
21:02:21 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
21:02:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-minutes.html jeanne
21:07:24 <jeanne> rrsagent, bye
21:07:24 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-actions.rdf :
21:07:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JR, JS: Update http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20080929/WD-ATAG20-20080929.html#intro-rel-wcag [1]
21:07:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-irc#T20-16-29
21:07:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jan and Jeanne to come up with rationale text for Part A [2]
21:07:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-irc#T20-17-16
21:07:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JS to Use prompt instead of cue [3]
21:07:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-irc#T20-25-33
21:07:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JS to create an issue with the text of the editors note on definition of Authoring Tool and delete that editor's note from the guidelines.  [4]
21:07:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/29-au-irc#T20-42-30